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Re: Side v Hawthorn

Post: # 2010276Post The G Train Legacy »

May I ask why many feel we should rest Phillipou and play Campbell? It has been a view of some for a few weeks.

Phillipou makes a significant enough contribution and is always capable of doing something extraordinary.

Why lose run to bring in a second ruckman to relieve Marshall for 5 minutes a quarter?


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The G Train Legacy wrote: Tue 23 May 2023 3:13pm May I ask why many feel we should rest Phillipou and play Campbell? It has been a view of some for a few weeks.

Phillipou makes a significant enough contribution and is always capable of doing something extraordinary.

Why lose run to bring in a second ruckman to relieve Marshall for 5 minutes a quarter?
Agree re Campbell, not convinced 2 rucks works unless both can also play forward properly which Campbell cannot. I like the way they are playing Heath forward a lot at Sandy as teaches him forward craft as need both strings.
Pou looked fatigue v Adelaide sides and i thought needed a rest , but was in and at it with a low possession game in the weekend. The bye the week after next let him play .


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Re: Side v Hawthorn

Post: # 2010289Post Otiman »

Campbell's tap work exceeds Marshall's. Marshall is a gun around the ground and in contests, but for hit outs to advantage, Campbell is your man.

I did notice that Marshall had some more length on his taps this week against GWS, which is a good sign.

The problem with Campbell is his ability to impact the game when it's not a ruck contest, which reportedly he is doing well with improving at VFL level.


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Re: Side v Hawthorn

Post: # 2010361Post samoht »

As scollop I think pointed out in another thread, Marshall also averages something like 5 clearances, himself, which I think trump hitouts to advantage.


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Re: Side v Hawthorn

Post: # 2010362Post samoht »

As scollop I think pointed out in another thread, Marshall also averages something like 5 clearances, himself, which I think trump hitouts to advantage.


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Re: Side v Hawthorn

Post: # 2010365Post samoht »

As scollop I think pointed out in another thread, Marshall also averages something like 5 clearances, himself, which I reckon trump hitouts to advantage - as there is only a chance with those ending up as clearances.


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Re: Side v Hawthorn

Post: # 2010372Post shanegrambeau »

The only thing I can say/ask is about potential burnout injury to Marshall. If Campbell gets a run, and is half decent, at least we know if we have a proven backup to ease or potentially (heaven forbid) replace Marshall in a squeeze.

I still have 1997 in my soul.


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Re: Side v Hawthorn

Post: # 2010376Post WellardSaint »

A lady on twitter with 45+ yrs membership, who goes to almost every game, flies interstate for away games too...
Was at the game and watched VFL game.

Her comments about JB were:
'Looked like the old JB tbf (to be fair)
Corky aside, didn't go in, ran half-paced,
didn't look like he wanted it'

Don't presume she's biased against JB from her first line.
She gets angry at other tweeters who criticise the club, players, officials, etc.
She's 💯 committed to the club.


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Re: Side v Hawthorn

Post: # 2010378Post WellardSaint »

saynta wrote: Mon 22 May 2023 7:10pm
Impatient Sainter wrote: Mon 22 May 2023 6:48pm Hopefully Membrey is fit to return.

Bytel got more of the ball in the VFL, but I believe Windhager would bring more to the AFL side.

Out: Ross & Owens
Ins: Membrey, Windhager

Sub Paton.
I watched the whole game. Bytel and Highmore were impressive. Windy, unfortunately for him, was not.
I saw none of the VFL game due to work...
Another poster somewhere, said Highmore kicked into the corridor 3 times to a Giant on his own, which resulted in a goal.
Is that right?


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Re: Side v Hawthorn

Post: # 2010379Post WellardSaint »

samoht wrote: Wed 24 May 2023 2:35pm As scollop I think pointed out in another thread, Marshall also averages something like 5 clearances, himself, which I think trump hitouts to advantage.
Marshall sometimes takes the ball himself out of ball-ups and kicks, which teams have set up for- they put guys at the distance the ball will go.

Not sure why we don't do that too


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Re: Side v Hawthorn

Post: # 2010380Post WellardSaint »

What effect will this have on the Hawks? None, or some?

The Age is reporting that a Hawks Chief Exec (not sure if CEO, COO CFO) Justin Reeves has resigned 'amid the racist investigation'


OMG typical of the Age to conflate the 2 things, or link the quitting to the inquiry.
Anyway...


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Re: Side v Hawthorn

Post: # 2010381Post saynta »

WellardSaint wrote: Wed 24 May 2023 4:56pm
saynta wrote: Mon 22 May 2023 7:10pm
Impatient Sainter wrote: Mon 22 May 2023 6:48pm Hopefully Membrey is fit to return.

Bytel got more of the ball in the VFL, but I believe Windhager would bring more to the AFL side.

Out: Ross & Owens
Ins: Membrey, Windhager

Sub Paton.
I watched the whole game. Bytel and Highmore were impressive. Windy, unfortunately for him, was not.
I saw none of the VFL game due to work...
Another poster somewhere, said Highmore kicked into the corridor 3 times to a Giant on his own, which resulted in a goal.
Is that right?
Not that I remember or noticed at the time. Was he right? Fiik.
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Post: # 2010382Post takeaway »

WellardSaint wrote: Wed 24 May 2023 5:13pm What effect will this have on the Hawks? None, or some?

The Age is reporting that a Hawks Chief Exec (not sure if CEO, COO CFO) Justin Reeves has resigned 'amid the racist investigation'


OMG typical of the Age to conflate the 2 things, or link the quitting to the inquiry.
Anyway...
That is why he resigned isn't it? He cited the reason being the toll taken on him by the enquiry.


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samoht wrote: Wed 24 May 2023 2:37pm As scollop I think pointed out in another thread, Marshall also averages something like 5 clearances, himself, which I reckon trump hitouts to advantage - as there is only a chance with those ending up as clearances.
I'd prefer hitouts to advantage, especially Ryder hitouts to advantage. Not really ROMA's forte. Sometimes a ruckman just has to grab it and dump a kick, it's then at best a 50:50 ball, less if he's dumping it out of defence where the opposition sits outside the 50.
He's good at it, not knocking him, but he would be more a complete player if he improved his hitouts.


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Post: # 2010391Post scallopsroe »

shanegrambeau wrote: Wed 24 May 2023 4:00pm The only thing I can say/ask is about potential burnout injury to Marshall. If Campbell gets a run, and is half decent, at least we know if we have a proven backup to ease or potentially (heaven forbid) replace Marshall in a squeeze.

I still have 1997 in my soul.
Agree!
Always must have a back up (competent) ruckman. If they're not competent, then why are they on the playing list!


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Post: # 2010396Post BadRossco »

Owens does a great job giving Roma a chop out but with Hayes injured Campbell would be our only option as Corey is not up to it and Heath has a long way to go. If there is an upgrade on Campbell in the mid season draft move Jones to the LTI list and go for it.


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WellardSaint wrote: Wed 24 May 2023 4:56pm
saynta wrote: Mon 22 May 2023 7:10pm
Impatient Sainter wrote: Mon 22 May 2023 6:48pm Hopefully Membrey is fit to return.

Bytel got more of the ball in the VFL, but I believe Windhager would bring more to the AFL side.

Out: Ross & Owens
Ins: Membrey, Windhager

Sub Paton.
I watched the whole game. Bytel and Highmore were impressive. Windy, unfortunately for him, was not.
I saw none of the VFL game due to work...
Another poster somewhere, said Highmore kicked into the corridor 3 times to a Giant on his own, which resulted in a goal.
Is that right?






WE can always watch the VFL game or highlights later to check up on the boys.


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Post: # 2010527Post Saints58 »

Sometimes the saints keep a few emergency aside for the main game could they play in the VFL with the sub from the AFL side.
The VFL is at RESA park on Saturday night 5pm it would be good for all the Emergency's to play in that game as many haven't played for a while.


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Re: Side v Hawthorn

Post: # 2010718Post SAINT-LEE »

WellardSaint wrote: Wed 24 May 2023 4:46pm A lady on twitter with 45+ yrs membership, who goes to almost every game, flies interstate for away games too...
Was at the game and watched VFL game.

Her comments about JB were:
'Looked like the old JB tbf (to be fair)
Corky aside, didn't go in, ran half-paced,
didn't look like he wanted it'

Don't presume she's biased against JB from her first line.
She gets angry at other tweeters who criticise the club, players, officials, etc.
She's 💯 committed to the club.
JB wasnt as good as weeks prior...he is carrying an injury last week.

But his time in the vfl has pretty good, better than a few others in the seniors.

But at present theres no hope for FB to break into the senoirs unless theres injury.

When RTB locks into a player he loves them despite how much we may disagree...I dont need to list the players he ran weekly that some consider may even have cost us flags.


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Re: Side v Hawthorn

Post: # 2010727Post WellardSaint »

SAINT-LEE wrote: Sat 27 May 2023 1:21pm
WellardSaint wrote: Wed 24 May 2023 4:46pm A lady on twitter with 45+ yrs membership, who goes to almost every game, flies interstate for away games too...
Was at the game and watched VFL game.

Her comments about JB were:
'Looked like the old JB tbf (to be fair)
Corky aside, didn't go in, ran half-paced,
didn't look like he wanted it'

Don't presume she's biased against JB from her first line.
She gets angry at other tweeters who criticise the club, players, officials, etc.
She's 💯 committed to the club.
JB wasnt as good as weeks prior...he is carrying an injury last week.

But his time in the vfl has pretty good, better than a few others in the seniors.

But at present theres no hope for FB to break into the senoirs unless theres injury.

When RTB locks into a player he loves them despite how much we may disagree...I dont need to list the players he ran weekly that some consider may even have cost us flags.
He had a lot of love for Zac Dawson, took him to Freo too.
There's others who had a ? on them from lots of us, I think he hasn't learnt from those 'mistakes' (in my opinion)
I'm not a coach, but I wonder why Lenny/Harves/Boris haven't talked him out of it


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Re: Side v Hawthorn

Post: # 2010785Post B.M »

If we lose

It’ll be lost at selection

Pick the best players


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Re: Side v Hawthorn

Post: # 2010821Post Scollop »

B.M wrote: Sat 27 May 2023 3:53pm If we lose

It’ll be lost at selection

Pick the best players
Pick the best players implies you pick ‘best 22’ if they are available and not injured, BUT… what happens when they have 2-3 ordinary or sub standard performances?

I say pick the players who are in the best form and have some standards and have some selection integrity.

If you are insinuating that Jack Billings should be in this team, then I’d also add, he’s not going to be turning the Saints into a top 4 team


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B.M wrote: Sat 27 May 2023 3:53pm If we lose

It’ll be lost at selection

Pick the best players
If we win, then is it won at selection?


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Post: # 2010872Post saintbob »

Lost at the selection table


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Lost on the ground in too many positions - if it was lost at selection then I hope those who played today in the seniors are traded or retired at year's end.


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