Yes, he gets good stats. But if you actually watch the game, he turns the ball over far more often than whipping boys such as Howard and Ross. He does lots of really good stuff and has a terrific highlights reel most games. When he tightens up his game, he’s going to be a star. But he’s definitely a mixed bag ATM.Scollop wrote: ↑Mon 22 May 2023 2:31am29 touches at 79% disposal efficiency with 19 of his disposals being kicks... and only 2 clangers for the whole day!!meher baba wrote: ↑Sun 21 May 2023 11:02pm 5 Sinclair
4 Steele
3 Stocker
2 King
1 Gresham (nowhere near his best, but he kept us in it when we were really struggling).
Howard (apart from one dreadful mistake), Webster, Wilkie, Hill, Caminiti, Higgins and Butler all did a bit too.
I agree NWM did many wonderful things, but he also stuffed up a lot. So no points from me tonight.
Second most metres gained after Sinclair. 8 intercept possessions and an impressive 10 marks. He had 4 score involvements including 2 inside 50's (remember he's a backman)
It's ok to vote any way you want but why try justifying your votes with inaccurate information
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Re: Votes v Giants
NWM easily in best 3 for me.meher baba wrote: ↑Mon 22 May 2023 6:35amYes, he gets good stats. But if you actually watch the game, he turns the ball over far more often than whipping boys such as Howard and Ross. He does lots of really good stuff and has a terrific highlights reel most games. When he tightens up his game, he’s going to be a star. But he’s definitely a mixed bag ATM.Scollop wrote: ↑Mon 22 May 2023 2:31am29 touches at 79% disposal efficiency with 19 of his disposals being kicks... and only 2 clangers for the whole day!!meher baba wrote: ↑Sun 21 May 2023 11:02pm 5 Sinclair
4 Steele
3 Stocker
2 King
1 Gresham (nowhere near his best, but he kept us in it when we were really struggling).
Howard (apart from one dreadful mistake), Webster, Wilkie, Hill, Caminiti, Higgins and Butler all did a bit too.
I agree NWM did many wonderful things, but he also stuffed up a lot. So no points from me tonight.
Second most metres gained after Sinclair. 8 intercept possessions and an impressive 10 marks. He had 4 score involvements including 2 inside 50's (remember he's a backman)
It's ok to vote any way you want but why try justifying your votes with inaccurate information
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Re: Votes v Giants
Suggest you listen and act on your own advicemeher baba wrote: ↑Mon 22 May 2023 6:35am
Yes, he gets good stats. But if you actually watch the game, he turns the ball over far more often than whipping boys such as Howard and Ross.
Or...
Are you recalling how he's played in previous games and somehow rated him based on previous turnovers and mistakes
Remember... we're voting for how he played in the match yesterday against GWS
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I actually read this before watching most of the game. I don’t know how they count disposal efficiency or clangers but there were at least 5 occasions where he missed his target badly. And his shot for goal in the last he just seemed to have no confidence in the kick.meher baba wrote: ↑Mon 22 May 2023 6:35amYes, he gets good stats. But if you actually watch the game, he turns the ball over far more often than whipping boys such as Howard and Ross. He does lots of really good stuff and has a terrific highlights reel most games. When he tightens up his game, he’s going to be a star. But he’s definitely a mixed bag ATM.Scollop wrote: ↑Mon 22 May 2023 2:31am29 touches at 79% disposal efficiency with 19 of his disposals being kicks... and only 2 clangers for the whole day!!meher baba wrote: ↑Sun 21 May 2023 11:02pm
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I agree NWM did many wonderful things, but he also stuffed up a lot. So no points from me tonight.
Second most metres gained after Sinclair. 8 intercept possessions and an impressive 10 marks. He had 4 score involvements including 2 inside 50's (remember he's a backman)
It's ok to vote any way you want but why try justifying your votes with inaccurate information
Having said that.
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From Champion Data: https://www.championdata.com/glossary/afl/
Disposal Efficiency: Percentage of disposals that are effective.
Effective Handball: A handball to a teammate that hits the intended target.
Effective Kick: The sum of effective short kicks, effective long kicks and effective ground kicks.
Effective Long Kick: A kick of more than 40 metres to a 50/50 contest or better for the team.
Effective Short Kick: A kick of less than 40 metres that results in the intended target retaining possession. Does not include kicks that are spoiled by the opposition.
Ineffective Handball: Handballs that are not advantageous to the team, but do not directly turn the ball over to the opposition.
Ineffective Kick: Kicks that are not advantageous to the team, but do not directly turn the ball over to the opposition. All behinds are also classified as ineffective kicks.
Clanger: An error made by a player resulting in a negative result for his side. Disposal clangers are any kick or handball that directly turns the ball over to the opposition. Frees and 50-metre penalties against, No Pressure Errors, Dropped Marks and Debits are all included in clangers.
Disposal Efficiency: Percentage of disposals that are effective.
Effective Handball: A handball to a teammate that hits the intended target.
Effective Kick: The sum of effective short kicks, effective long kicks and effective ground kicks.
Effective Long Kick: A kick of more than 40 metres to a 50/50 contest or better for the team.
Effective Short Kick: A kick of less than 40 metres that results in the intended target retaining possession. Does not include kicks that are spoiled by the opposition.
Ineffective Handball: Handballs that are not advantageous to the team, but do not directly turn the ball over to the opposition.
Ineffective Kick: Kicks that are not advantageous to the team, but do not directly turn the ball over to the opposition. All behinds are also classified as ineffective kicks.
Clanger: An error made by a player resulting in a negative result for his side. Disposal clangers are any kick or handball that directly turns the ball over to the opposition. Frees and 50-metre penalties against, No Pressure Errors, Dropped Marks and Debits are all included in clangers.
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Re: Votes v Giants
LOL - Since NWM became King the Butler is Steele
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Re: Votes v Giants
120 Sinclair
62 Wanganeen Milera
57 Steele
40 King
23 Wilkie
19 Marshall
19 Stocker
7 Gresham
6 Butler
3 Wood
2 Owens
1 Higgins
1 Hill
Therefore:
5 Sinclair
4 Wanganeen Milera
3 Steele
2 King
1 Wilkie
62 Wanganeen Milera
57 Steele
40 King
23 Wilkie
19 Marshall
19 Stocker
7 Gresham
6 Butler
3 Wood
2 Owens
1 Higgins
1 Hill
Therefore:
5 Sinclair
4 Wanganeen Milera
3 Steele
2 King
1 Wilkie
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