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Post: # 2006925Post Sebastian Tombs »

So let me get this right if you racially vilified someone and your in the crowd you get a life time ban , but if your a player on the ground and do it you get six weeks yeah that seems fair 🙄


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Sebastian Tombs wrote: Sun 07 May 2023 9:09am So let me get this right if you racially vilified someone and your in the crowd you get a life time ban , but if your a player on the ground and do it you get six weeks yeah that seems fair 🙄
Allegedly, the the vilified gets 3 weeks for reacting.


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How do they enforce it?

Do the ticket sales people keep mug shots of the racists in those little booths?


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SaintPav wrote: Sun 07 May 2023 11:07am How do they enforce it?

Do the ticket sales people keep mug shots of the racists in those little booths?
You will find that they have facial recognition systems in place in most large venues. If you go to a shopping centre they have these systems and they record data like foot traffic, male &Female and age.They use these demographics in many ways from planning, marketing and so on. Facial recognition systems in airports and other security settings are more complex, they measure the bone structure of the face and the difference between features, say distance between eyes so that growing a beard or dying your hair will not trick the system.

So, you can almost guarantee, that wherever you go, someone is watching you.


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B.M wrote: Sat 06 May 2023 10:52pm Every club has to deal with the go home factor- fact is, Hobart is a beautiful (albeit trendy) city

With a footy culture

It will have elite facilities

An under roof stadium- which will be packed every game

Players will be able to afford to live in the best suburbs

For 500k - 1M I’d be happy to relocate there for work
Coldest place I have ever stayed in. That wind off the mountain cuts you to the bone. Yeah, the ground needs a roof.


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Sainter_Dad wrote: Sun 07 May 2023 9:26am
Sebastian Tombs wrote: Sun 07 May 2023 9:09am So let me get this right if you racially vilified someone and your in the crowd you get a life time ban , but if your a player on the ground and do it you get six weeks yeah that seems fair 🙄
Allegedly, the the vilified gets 3 weeks for reacting.
Spot on mate, spot on. Funny thing, the journos never mentioned anything


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Sainter_Dad wrote: Sat 06 May 2023 9:46pm
saynta wrote: Sat 06 May 2023 9:07pm Tasmania won't have to worry about the go home factor as they will be the only team allowed to draft Tassie talent.
LOL - even possibly Roo's children when the time comes.
Actually a smart move by Roo
We will draft his boys as Cat B rookies
No draft picks involved which we can then use in the national draft 😁😁


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skeptic wrote: Sat 06 May 2023 3:08pm Unfortunately this type of behaviour is still very prevalent everywhere in society including this forum. The challenge is amongst that group of ppl that harbour those negative attitudes but know what they can and can’t say and walk around the line rather than cross it.

All you can really do is confront it directly when it rears its ugly head up in terms of behaviour and hope that with enough education and pressure, people see the error of their ways.

Certainly the worst of it I’ve ever copped has been here on this forum (which all things considered makes me pretty lucky), which is why I talk a lot less about my background. Those types of posts wouldn’t fly these days but you still catch snippets of it in people’s mannerisms

“Why would I watch that foreign sport”
“Your type”

Or you see it with people that always have issues with minorities or people of other cultures that take a stand against the bias - that’s when politics is sports is often not ok.

All in all though… every generation seems better than the next and I really think the young ppl coming through today really believe in the message of inclusiveness + respect and will put this to bed for us






can relate to the ethnicity slur a lot as a kid growing up.


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saynta wrote: Sun 07 May 2023 11:50am
B.M wrote: Sat 06 May 2023 10:52pm Every club has to deal with the go home factor- fact is, Hobart is a beautiful (albeit trendy) city

With a footy culture

It will have elite facilities

An under roof stadium- which will be packed every game

Players will be able to afford to live in the best suburbs

For 500k - 1M I’d be happy to relocate there for work
Coldest place I have ever stayed in. That wind off the mountain cuts you to the bone. Yeah, the ground needs a roof.
Haven't you been to Kyneton or Europe ..?


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Post: # 2006980Post B.M »

Or Canberra or Ballerat

FFS
NFL players play in the snow!!!!

It’s a winter sport - BTW winter in Melbourne isn’t great


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Sainter_Dad wrote: Sat 06 May 2023 9:46pm
saynta wrote: Sat 06 May 2023 9:07pm Tasmania won't have to worry about the go home factor as they will be the only team allowed to draft Tassie talent.
LOL - even possibly Roo's children when the time comes.
I saw something along the lines that son of player drafted from Tassie like the Riewoldts would qualify for both Tassie and dad's club.
They would get to nominate like Rice got to choose St Kilda or Carlton.


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ace wrote: Sun 07 May 2023 5:31pm
Sainter_Dad wrote: Sat 06 May 2023 9:46pm
saynta wrote: Sat 06 May 2023 9:07pm Tasmania won't have to worry about the go home factor as they will be the only team allowed to draft Tassie talent.
LOL - even possibly Roo's children when the time comes.
I saw something along the lines that son of player drafted from Tassie like the Riewoldts would qualify for both Tassie and dad's club.
They would get to nominate like Rice got to choose St Kilda or Carlton.
Hmmmm Nick was drafted from Queensland


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Sebastian Tombs wrote: Sun 07 May 2023 5:50pm
ace wrote: Sun 07 May 2023 5:31pm
Sainter_Dad wrote: Sat 06 May 2023 9:46pm
saynta wrote: Sat 06 May 2023 9:07pm Tasmania won't have to worry about the go home factor as they will be the only team allowed to draft Tassie talent.
LOL - even possibly Roo's children when the time comes.
I saw something along the lines that son of player drafted from Tassie like the Riewoldts would qualify for both Tassie and dad's club.
They would get to nominate like Rice got to choose St Kilda or Carlton.
Hmmmm Nick was drafted from Queensland
Born in Tassie though


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Rubyjo wrote: Sun 07 May 2023 2:58pm
saynta wrote: Sun 07 May 2023 11:50am
B.M wrote: Sat 06 May 2023 10:52pm Every club has to deal with the go home factor- fact is, Hobart is a beautiful (albeit trendy) city

With a footy culture

It will have elite facilities

An under roof stadium- which will be packed every game

Players will be able to afford to live in the best suburbs

For 500k - 1M I’d be happy to relocate there for work
Coldest place I have ever stayed in. That wind off the mountain cuts you to the bone. Yeah, the ground needs a roof.
Haven't you been to Kyneton or Europe ..?
Europe, no. Kyneton, maybe as a child.


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B.M wrote: Sun 07 May 2023 3:16pm Or Canberra or Ballerat

FFS
NFL players play in the snow!!!!

It’s a winter sport - BTW winter in Melbourne isn’t great
Canberra may get a colder temperature than Hobart, but the sky will be shinning and there is not the wind chill factor. So, I will stick with the city just to the north of the South Pole.

Ballarat and Goulburn might give Hobart a run for its money but my money would still be on Hobart


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B.M wrote: Sun 07 May 2023 3:16pm Or Canberra or Ballerat

FFS
NFL players play in the snow!!!!

It’s a winter sport - BTW winter in Melbourne isn’t great
I don't know a place or city were the NFL plays that snows.


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Did the person who racially vilified Jamarra Ugle-Hagen get a ban? Still can’t believe a Saints fan did that 🤦‍♂️

Sainter_Dad wrote: Sat 06 May 2023 3:39pm Will the people booing JHF get a lifetime ban??
How about all those numpties that booed Adam Goodes? Retrospective bans for the lot of them!


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Sainternist wrote: Mon 08 May 2023 5:28pm Did the person who racially vilified Jamarra Ugle-Hagen get a ban? Still can’t believe a Saints fan did that 🤦‍♂️

Sainter_Dad wrote: Sat 06 May 2023 3:39pm Will the people booing JHF get a lifetime ban??
How about all those numpties that booed Adam Goodes? Retrospective bans for the lot of them!
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Sainternist wrote: Mon 08 May 2023 5:28pm Did the person who racially vilified Jamarra Ugle-Hagen get a ban? Still can’t believe a Saints fan did that 🤦‍♂️

Sainter_Dad wrote: Sat 06 May 2023 3:39pm Will the people booing JHF get a lifetime ban??
How about all those numpties that booed Adam Goodes? Retrospective bans for the lot of them!
I never booed Goodes but I think that at least a percentage of those that did, did so because he was an out and out thug.


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Sainter_Dad wrote: Mon 08 May 2023 6:48pm
Sainternist wrote: Mon 08 May 2023 5:28pm Did the person who racially vilified Jamarra Ugle-Hagen get a ban? Still can’t believe a Saints fan did that 🤦‍♂️

Sainter_Dad wrote: Sat 06 May 2023 3:39pm Will the people booing JHF get a lifetime ban??
How about all those numpties that booed Adam Goodes? Retrospective bans for the lot of them!
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Mickie Milkshake should be banned retrospectively as well. What he said was disgraceful and the arseclown one time had thoughts of one day coaching the Saints.


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skeptic wrote: Sat 06 May 2023 3:08pm Unfortunately this type of behaviour is still very prevalent everywhere in society including this forum. The challenge is amongst that group of ppl that harbour those negative attitudes but know what they can and can’t say and walk around the line rather than cross it.

All you can really do is confront it directly when it rears its ugly head up in terms of behaviour and hope that with enough education and pressure, people see the error of their ways.

Certainly the worst of it I’ve ever copped has been here on this forum (which all things considered makes me pretty lucky), which is why I talk a lot less about my background. Those types of posts wouldn’t fly these days but you still catch snippets of it in people’s mannerisms

“Why would I watch that foreign sport”
“Your type”

Or you see it with people that always have issues with minorities or people of other cultures that take a stand against the bias - that’s when politics is sports is often not ok.

All in all though… every generation seems better than the next and I really think the young ppl coming through today really believe in the message of inclusiveness + respect and will put this to bed for us
Its actually not very prevalent.


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The_Dud wrote: Sat 06 May 2023 5:43pm If only we had the same rule here!
Wouldn't that warm your little authoritarian heart.


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SaintPav wrote: Sun 07 May 2023 11:07am How do they enforce it?

Do the ticket sales people keep mug shots of the racists in those little booths?
They can't enforce it without unacceptably traversing people's privacy


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The G Train Legacy wrote: Mon 08 May 2023 7:23pm
skeptic wrote: Sat 06 May 2023 3:08pm Unfortunately this type of behaviour is still very prevalent everywhere in society including this forum. The challenge is amongst that group of ppl that harbour those negative attitudes but know what they can and can’t say and walk around the line rather than cross it.

All you can really do is confront it directly when it rears its ugly head up in terms of behaviour and hope that with enough education and pressure, people see the error of their ways.

Certainly the worst of it I’ve ever copped has been here on this forum (which all things considered makes me pretty lucky), which is why I talk a lot less about my background. Those types of posts wouldn’t fly these days but you still catch snippets of it in people’s mannerisms

“Why would I watch that foreign sport”
“Your type”

Or you see it with people that always have issues with minorities or people of other cultures that take a stand against the bias - that’s when politics is sports is often not ok.

All in all though… every generation seems better than the next and I really think the young ppl coming through today really believe in the message of inclusiveness + respect and will put this to bed for us
Its actually not very prevalent.
It’s not blatant…
But in my experience, it’s very much prevalent


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skeptic wrote: Mon 08 May 2023 7:35pm
The G Train Legacy wrote: Mon 08 May 2023 7:23pm
skeptic wrote: Sat 06 May 2023 3:08pm Unfortunately this type of behaviour is still very prevalent everywhere in society including this forum. The challenge is amongst that group of ppl that harbour those negative attitudes but know what they can and can’t say and walk around the line rather than cross it.

All you can really do is confront it directly when it rears its ugly head up in terms of behaviour and hope that with enough education and pressure, people see the error of their ways.

Certainly the worst of it I’ve ever copped has been here on this forum (which all things considered makes me pretty lucky), which is why I talk a lot less about my background. Those types of posts wouldn’t fly these days but you still catch snippets of it in people’s mannerisms

“Why would I watch that foreign sport”
“Your type”

Or you see it with people that always have issues with minorities or people of other cultures that take a stand against the bias - that’s when politics is sports is often not ok.

All in all though… every generation seems better than the next and I really think the young ppl coming through today really believe in the message of inclusiveness + respect and will put this to bed for us
Its actually not very prevalent.
It’s not blatant…
But in my experience, it’s very much prevalent
Are you talking about vilification in general, or racism specifically?


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