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Post: # 2006577Post asiu »

mention not ... the name of the beast

vegans ... being angry at others is a natural growth process from vegans being intolerant of others and their choices


a bit cult like


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Post: # 2006591Post Teflon »

Scollop wrote: Wed 03 May 2023 12:52pm
Teflon wrote: Wed 03 May 2023 11:56am
Scollop wrote: Wed 03 May 2023 11:15am Just as an example of the calibre of leaders at Freo during Ross Lyons time there, he had All Australian talent in every line and one of the best was his midfielder David Mundy.

When Ross walked into Freo he inherited other leaders apart from Mundy in McPharlin, Sandilands, Johnson, McPhee, and Pavlich

I was thinking the other day what Freo is lacking this year compared to last and why they look different. Was Longmuir (edit..bloody auto correct) a better coach last year? Of course he wasn't. He just had better leadership and he had David Mundy at his disposal
Oh so it’s all Mundy …it’s why they’ve fallen off a cliff
Ok
Brayshaw Sering etc who Lyon brought through offer little
Jackson …lol
Suggest you check Freo board on BF they want the great man back
Who said Freo have fallen off a cliff? The 2023 year has just begun

The may well want him back because the Saints have won 5 matches, but….

Give it another 6-7 weeks and keep following the Freo board on BF and come back to us then with your report

I’ll be really keen to hear what they have to say
Do you give Ros 6/7 weeks before we fall over?
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Post: # 2006593Post Teflon »

asiu wrote: Wed 03 May 2023 5:01pm lol

i'd humbly suggest ... being a bit encompassing 'n even grateful

Teffers runs a good solo yolo show
butt !!
... it'll be bloody bedlam if his old partner in crime turns up
to bedazzle us with rucks stats to advantage ,
reams of anti gt copy n paste from the old days , an occasional
the squares are rooted and regales us with percy wrangling 'n jilly jangling stories from his many afternoon japanese tea party experiences

it could be way worse
angry vegans are scary things


should be first on the menu come the zombie apocalypse
Bring the great man B4Eva back!!
Place lost its soul when we lost posters like that
Left with the dull sterile pc brigade and Stinger ..
All downhill
Rix Rox Rux!
Love it
You’ve all done the maths
The squares are all rooted !!


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Teflon wrote: Wed 03 May 2023 11:52pm
asiu wrote: Wed 03 May 2023 5:01pm lol

i'd humbly suggest ... being a bit encompassing 'n even grateful

Teffers runs a good solo yolo show
butt !!
... it'll be bloody bedlam if his old partner in crime turns up
to bedazzle us with rucks stats to advantage ,
reams of anti gt copy n paste from the old days , an occasional
the squares are rooted and regales us with percy wrangling 'n jilly jangling stories from his many afternoon japanese tea party experiences

it could be way worse
angry vegans are scary things


should be first on the menu come the zombie apocalypse
Bring the great man B4Eva back!!
Place lost its soul when we lost posters like that
Left with the dull sterile pc brigade and Stinger ..
All downhill
Rix Rox Rux!
Love it
You’ve all done the maths
The squares are all rooted !!
I too love the big man.

A contentious poster… certainly a bit much at times but never a dull moment.


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Post: # 2006599Post Scollop »

Teflon wrote: Wed 03 May 2023 11:54am
Scollop wrote: Wed 03 May 2023 10:33am When someone thinks of a beautiful building or structure, they don't marvel at the painter's or the plasterers' finishing touches. They value the importance of the engineers and architects

I know Hoges helped keep the rust off those bolts, but you don't credit Paul Hogan for the finished product that is the famous coathanger in Sydney

GT is to the side that Lyon inherited in 2007 as Tait, Freeman and Bradfield were for the design and build of the Sydney Harbour Bridge

GT helped mould the men and leaders that Lyon inherited and the dynamic of 'team' that GT created during his period as coach should not be forgotten. Anyone with an ounce of intelligence understands the engineer and architect deserves credit
LMAO
And now those moulded only refer to Ross when describing the BEST coach they’ve ever had
You’re reaching but it’s entertaining
Ross has admitted that he inherited a very coachable group back in 2007. What do you think that means?

I've never suggested that GT was a better coach than Ross. I don't think anyone has. What I dislike is people who think it just takes a tactical coach to bring success to a club.

If Allistair Clarkson can't get North into finals does that erode any flags he won or any reputation he had? If Ross Lyon can't get the 2023/4/5 team into finals, does that make him a poor coach?

You're one of the very few twats that keep bringing it back to that. A successful team first and foremost needs talent and secondly needs leaders that unite the playing group.

You're one of the very few ungrateful supporters who don't acknowledge that GT helped mould a great team while he was coach. He helped mould the leaders.

Ever tried moulding a tree after It's about 10 years old? Ever tried moulding a 40 year old geezer to try and change their behaviour?
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Post: # 2006601Post Teflon »

skeptic wrote: Wed 03 May 2023 11:57pm
Teflon wrote: Wed 03 May 2023 11:52pm
asiu wrote: Wed 03 May 2023 5:01pm lol

i'd humbly suggest ... being a bit encompassing 'n even grateful

Teffers runs a good solo yolo show
butt !!
... it'll be bloody bedlam if his old partner in crime turns up
to bedazzle us with rucks stats to advantage ,
reams of anti gt copy n paste from the old days , an occasional
the squares are rooted and regales us with percy wrangling 'n jilly jangling stories from his many afternoon japanese tea party experiences

it could be way worse
angry vegans are scary things


should be first on the menu come the zombie apocalypse
Bring the great man B4Eva back!!
Place lost its soul when we lost posters like that
Left with the dull sterile pc brigade and Stinger ..
All downhill
Rix Rox Rux!
Love it
You’ve all done the maths
The squares are all rooted !!
I too love the big man.

A contentious poster… certainly a bit much at times but never a dull moment.
He just bought a bit of fun to the place
I also like JoffaBurns he was a good fella Spelly back in the day
Eastern….we had some great posters
But beige sadly nowadays
I might be getting old


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Teflon wrote: Thu 04 May 2023 12:10am
skeptic wrote: Wed 03 May 2023 11:57pm
Teflon wrote: Wed 03 May 2023 11:52pm
asiu wrote: Wed 03 May 2023 5:01pm lol

i'd humbly suggest ... being a bit encompassing 'n even grateful

Teffers runs a good solo yolo show
butt !!
... it'll be bloody bedlam if his old partner in crime turns up
to bedazzle us with rucks stats to advantage ,
reams of anti gt copy n paste from the old days , an occasional
the squares are rooted and regales us with percy wrangling 'n jilly jangling stories from his many afternoon japanese tea party experiences

it could be way worse
angry vegans are scary things


should be first on the menu come the zombie apocalypse
Bring the great man B4Eva back!!
Place lost its soul when we lost posters like that
Left with the dull sterile pc brigade and Stinger ..
All downhill
Rix Rox Rux!
Love it
You’ve all done the maths
The squares are all rooted !!
I too love the big man.

A contentious poster… certainly a bit much at times but never a dull moment.
He just bought a bit of fun to the place
I also like JoffaBurns he was a good fella Spelly back in the day
Eastern….we had some great posters
But beige sadly nowadays
I might be getting old
Joffaburns being banned was a dark day. I quite liked White Winmar as well, he had some interesting insights


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Post: # 2006617Post samoht »

Even three-peat coaches have a use-by date.
Clarko, RL, Voss, Ratten ... they all get churned over and sent packing at some stage.

Good recruiting is what it's all about. That should be the constant - the coach is just the variable.
The Bont and Petracca ... now, they would have made a big difference for us.

A coach makes a 5% difference, maybe ... recruiting and luck with injury is the 95%.

One thing to note, though:
RL has a gruelling game plan that failed at Freo (his last 4 years there), but it so happens to be working for us right now, as we have a number of endurance athletes who can carry it out.
It's actually been a good fit - for right now.

But, if we keep recruiting good players who are also endurance athletes from now on - based on the demands of his game plan - he might well end up becoming our most successful coach, who knows? We might be able to sustain our success? It still comes back to good recruiting.


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Teflon wrote: Wed 03 May 2023 11:52am
B.M wrote: Wed 03 May 2023 9:53am How did you feel when we won 10 straight?

Because you blew your bolt when we won 4 straight this year!!
Oh I ran out and brought the dvd
Now on sale at all good Vinnie stores!!
Ah, but 19 straight was better. Who was Coach then? Age is making my memory hazy.


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Post: # 2006683Post Teflon »

samoht wrote: Thu 04 May 2023 9:32am Even three-peat coaches have a use-by date.
Clarko, RL, Voss, Ratten ... they all get churned over and sent packing at some stage.

Good recruiting is what it's all about. That should be the constant - the coach is just the variable.
The Bont and Petracca ... now, they would have made a big difference for us.

A coach makes a 5% difference, maybe ... recruiting and luck with injury is the 95%.

One thing to note, though:
RL has a gruelling game plan that failed at Freo (his last 4 years there), but it so happens to be working for us right now, as we have a number of endurance athletes who can carry it out.
It's actually been a good fit - for right now.

But, if we keep recruiting good players who are also endurance athletes from now on - based on the demands of his game plan - he might well end up becoming our most successful coach, who knows? We might be able to sustain our success? It still comes back to good recruiting.
Ok but the list was Shiite we’ve been told
So now the list is good and could be coached by Stuart Dew and achieve same results
Anyway it doesn’t matter…..I think ma u if have stopped listening to you spamming the same message


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Post: # 2006705Post samoht »

I'll break it down/summarise it for you .... at the risk of repeating myself (you can call it spamming, but at least you've responded to what I've been saying/hypothesising - you're the first to do that ... so, thanks).

Our list went 8-3 last year ... it's not a bad list. Who said it was shite?

I don't think RL has a plan B, but his inflexible and very demanding plan A is working really well with our current list, so that's fine. And it may continue to work with the right recruiting (with endurance in mind), going forward?

Why is this a bad thing?
His game plan might deliver sustained and sustainable success, with the right recruiting.
If we recruit according to the demanding game plan ... which is a constant, we should be right. It should help focus our recruiting, and simplify it ... there'd be less room for error and recruiting willy-nilly. There'd be purpose to our recruiting.


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