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[samuraisaint]

[Teflon]

who cares

[samuraisaint]

He is doing a Q+A now.

[Teflon]

He is doing a Q+A now.

Let me guess
“Grant should you still be coaching?”
Grant
“I see no reason why not…I am still the best credentialed ask Warrnambool”
Ass clown of the highest
Take your payout you took off the club and f k off Vulture

[samuraisaint]

Saints won more games than any other team between 2004-6.
I like GT. I think he was a great coach. I was very upset when he was sacked.

[Teflon]

Saints won more games than any other team between 2004-6.
I like GT. I think he was a great coach.

I disagree and so do ex assistant coaches who knew and told me “he **** your club”
I think his ego cost us flags with that list
How would they have gone with Lyon in charge …
Couldn’t move Grant on though ….even though he was meant to be caretaker????
Egotist

[samuraisaint]

He is one of only two St Kilda coaches who coached the Saints to win more games over several seasons than any other team (2004-6).
Jeansie also did this between 1965-73.

[Teflon]

He is one of only two St Kilda coaches who coached the Saints to win more games over several seasons than any other team (2004-6).
Jeansie also did this between 1965-73.

Mate I couldn’t give a fat rats clacker about his 10 win “the streak” dvd
We had the best list of our modern era in his care and he failed to get us into 1 GF ….not 1???????
Playing injured players in the prelim …
Under investing in player health and rehab was a debacle he sat across with his cr@p “training services” bullshyte (what a corporate wank@)
He RAN the joint and no players talk about their love for GT like they do Lyon????
I would’ve respected him more had he done what he said early days he was going to do - caretaker coach while we hunted an experienced AFL option
He got in the chair and never had any interest in leaving and had to be sacked to get him out the door
Not before he reached his fat hands into the clubs limited coffers and took wads of cash with him…
Utter cretin
He can’t snipe Lyon and he knows he’s not a pimple on his ass as coach

[B.M]

GT was unquestionably a good coach

Took a bunch of talented kids in 2002

To prelim finals in 04 & 05 and a final in 06

If not for key injuries history would be different

BTW
Ask his players what they think of GT

[SaintPav]

He had his flaws. I think he was probably the right coach for us at the time.

I wouldn’t say the alternative candidate in around 2001 was any better.

[1966]

GT was unquestionably a good coach

Took a bunch of talented kids in 2002

To prelim finals in 04 & 05 and a final in 06

If not for key injuries history would be different

BTW
Ask his players what they think of GT

Spot on. Well said.
Some people may not like a Thomas but he could definitely coach and players really played for him.

[D.B.Cooper]

GT describes his teams as not quite ready in 04, 05 & 06???
This is what the list looked like in 04.
Is GT still trying to perpetuate the myth we made a prelim full of 19 & 20 year olds?

1.Justin Peckett 5 Oct 72 32yr
2.Aaron Hamill 20 Aug 77 27yr
3.Xavier Clarke 28 Sep 83 21yr
4.Andrew Thompson 21 Oct 72 32yr
5.Austinn Jones 28 Sep 76 28yr
6.Leigh Fisher 19 Apr 84 21yr
7.Lenny Hayes 14 Jan 80 25yr
8.Max Hudghton 2 Sep 76 28yr
9.Fraser Gehrig 3 Mar 76 29yr
10.Steven Baker 22 May 80 24yr
11.Leigh Montagna 2 Nov 83 21yr
12.Nick Riewoldt 17 Oct 82 22yr
13.Brett Voss 22 Feb 78 27yr
14.Luke Ball 25 May 84 20yr
15.Jason Gram 27 Apr 84 20yr 1
16.Raphael Clarke 24 Sep 85 19yr
17.Stephen Powell 7 Sep 76 28yr
18.Brendon Goddard 20 May 85 19yr
19.Luke Penny 8 Feb 81 24yr
20.Allan Murray 20 May 82 22yr
21.Matthew Ferguson 1 Oct 84 20yr
23.Justin Koschitzke 20 Sep 82 22yr
24.Barry Brooks 24 Dec 83 21yr
25.Sam Fisher 10 Jul 82 22yr
26.Nick Dal Santo 22 Feb 84 21yr
27.Jason Blake 15 Mar 81 24yr
28.Cain Ackland 16 Mar 82 23yr
29.Nick Stone 1 Oct 81 23yr
30.Mark McGough 22 Jun 84 20yr
31. Matt Maguire 30 May 84 20yr
32.Andrew McQualter 9 Jun 86 18yr
33.James Gwilt 11 Aug 86 18yr
34.Brent Guerra 29 May 82 22yr 182cm
35.Robert Harvey 21 Aug 71 33yr
40.Troy Schwarze 23 Dec 81 23yr
44. Stephen Milne 8 Mar 80 25yr

[SaintPav]

That list batted deep too.

[skeptic]

GT describes his teams as not quite ready in 04, 05 & 06???
This is what the list looked like in 04.
Is GT still trying to perpetuate the myth we made a prelim full of 19 & 20 year olds?

1.Justin Peckett 5 Oct 72 32yr
2.Aaron Hamill 20 Aug 77 27yr
3.Xavier Clarke 28 Sep 83 21yr
4.Andrew Thompson 21 Oct 72 32yr
5.Austinn Jones 28 Sep 76 28yr
6.Leigh Fisher 19 Apr 84 21yr
7.Lenny Hayes 14 Jan 80 25yr
8.Max Hudghton 2 Sep 76 28yr
9.Fraser Gehrig 3 Mar 76 29yr
10.Steven Baker 22 May 80 24yr
11.Leigh Montagna 2 Nov 83 21yr
12.Nick Riewoldt 17 Oct 82 22yr
13.Brett Voss 22 Feb 78 27yr
14.Luke Ball 25 May 84 20yr
15.Jason Gram 27 Apr 84 20yr 1
16.Raphael Clarke 24 Sep 85 19yr
17.Stephen Powell 7 Sep 76 28yr
18.Brendon Goddard 20 May 85 19yr
19.Luke Penny 8 Feb 81 24yr
20.Allan Murray 20 May 82 22yr
21.Matthew Ferguson 1 Oct 84 20yr
23.Justin Koschitzke 20 Sep 82 22yr
24.Barry Brooks 24 Dec 83 21yr
25.Sam Fisher 10 Jul 82 22yr
26.Nick Dal Santo 22 Feb 84 21yr
27.Jason Blake 15 Mar 81 24yr
28.Cain Ackland 16 Mar 82 23yr
29.Nick Stone 1 Oct 81 23yr
30.Mark McGough 22 Jun 84 20yr
31. Matt Maguire 30 May 84 20yr
32.Andrew McQualter 9 Jun 86 18yr
33.James Gwilt 11 Aug 86 18yr
34.Brent Guerra 29 May 82 22yr 182cm
35.Robert Harvey 21 Aug 71 33yr
40.Troy Schwarze 23 Dec 81 23yr
44. Stephen Milne 8 Mar 80 25yr

Cain Acland!?

No Trent Knobel.

This is the end of 04, 2005 season

[B.M]

For most of the players

04 was the first finals series they’d played in

So yeah

Not ready

Sometimes it takes years of finals experience to handle the big day

We didn’t do it in 09/10

[Teflon]

GT describes his teams as not quite ready in 04, 05 & 06???
This is what the list looked like in 04.
Is GT still trying to perpetuate the myth we made a prelim full of 19 & 20 year olds?

1.Justin Peckett 5 Oct 72 32yr
2.Aaron Hamill 20 Aug 77 27yr
3.Xavier Clarke 28 Sep 83 21yr
4.Andrew Thompson 21 Oct 72 32yr
5.Austinn Jones 28 Sep 76 28yr
6.Leigh Fisher 19 Apr 84 21yr
7.Lenny Hayes 14 Jan 80 25yr
8.Max Hudghton 2 Sep 76 28yr
9.Fraser Gehrig 3 Mar 76 29yr
10.Steven Baker 22 May 80 24yr
11.Leigh Montagna 2 Nov 83 21yr
12.Nick Riewoldt 17 Oct 82 22yr
13.Brett Voss 22 Feb 78 27yr
14.Luke Ball 25 May 84 20yr
15.Jason Gram 27 Apr 84 20yr 1
16.Raphael Clarke 24 Sep 85 19yr
17.Stephen Powell 7 Sep 76 28yr
18.Brendon Goddard 20 May 85 19yr
19.Luke Penny 8 Feb 81 24yr
20.Allan Murray 20 May 82 22yr
21.Matthew Ferguson 1 Oct 84 20yr
23.Justin Koschitzke 20 Sep 82 22yr
24.Barry Brooks 24 Dec 83 21yr
25.Sam Fisher 10 Jul 82 22yr
26.Nick Dal Santo 22 Feb 84 21yr
27.Jason Blake 15 Mar 81 24yr
28.Cain Ackland 16 Mar 82 23yr
29.Nick Stone 1 Oct 81 23yr
30.Mark McGough 22 Jun 84 20yr
31. Matt Maguire 30 May 84 20yr
32.Andrew McQualter 9 Jun 86 18yr
33.James Gwilt 11 Aug 86 18yr
34.Brent Guerra 29 May 82 22yr 182cm
35.Robert Harvey 21 Aug 71 33yr
40.Troy Schwarze 23 Dec 81 23yr
44. Stephen Milne 8 Mar 80 25yr

Spot on great post
Of course Grant will tell anyone he paved the way for Ross lol
Facts are Thomas had the best Saints list of modern times and blew it
Good coach??? I thought coaches didn’t do much .,
But even if they do….shoot out Grant had 1 style and when that hit shut down (like Ratten) his teams were picked apart
Anyway he’s old news so who cares

[Teflon]

For most of the players

04 was the first finals series they’d played in

So yeah

Not ready

Sometimes it takes years of finals experience to handle the big day

We didn’t do it in 09/10

Lol selective again
Left off 05/06
“Training Services” were in charge of rehab…
Thank fk Lyon recognised it early and brought Misson in to stop that rot

[skeptic]

I still think the 09-10 team was far superior

[Teflon]

I still think the 09-10 team was far superior

And you’d be wrong as most sensible pundits know the mix of up and coming top draft talent and prime age stars was never better in Thomas years
No Robert Eddys Clint Jones or Mqualters getting round in 04-06 and Ball was AA not a broken down hobbit who couldn’t kick over a jam Tim
GT blew it

[skeptic]

Plenty of non-super stars on that list and broken down players isn’t an argument either…

The majority of the young guns of the 04 era would get absolutely curb stomped by the seasoned versions of themselves they went on to be.

Not all by any means and obviously the GT had the bigger super stars with G Train and Harves being the biggest…

But there are gaps. The 09-11 team is complete with stars across every level

Take what’s on DB’s list… make it better with say the exception of Kosi, Ball and a few others… add Schneider, Dempster, Gardiner, King, Armitage, Steven (over the journey), Lovett (for a cup of coffee), Dawson, Jones (who you’ve added as a plodder!?)… way better depth

Easily the strongest saints list ever assembled.

[Teflon]

Plenty of non-super stars on that list and broken down players isn’t an argument either…

The majority of the young guns of the 04 era would get absolutely curb stomped by the seasoned versions of themselves they went on to be.

Not all by any means and obviously the GT had the bigger super stars with G Train and Harves being the biggest…

But there are gaps. The 09-11 team is complete with stars across every level

Take what’s on DB’s list… make it better with say the exception of Kosi, Ball and a few others… add Schneider, Dempster, Gardiner, King, Armitage, Steven (over the journey), Lovett (for a cup of coffee), Dawson, Jones (who you’ve added as a plodder!?)… way better depth

Easily the strongest saints list ever assembled.

Lol Lovett?? You’re reaching
Ok GT is the greatest
RTB should move aside and we should go back to run n gun footy with no defence

[skeptic]

Plenty of non-super stars on that list and broken down players isn’t an argument either…

The majority of the young guns of the 04 era would get absolutely curb stomped by the seasoned versions of themselves they went on to be.

Not all by any means and obviously the GT had the bigger super stars with G Train and Harves being the biggest…

But there are gaps. The 09-11 team is complete with stars across every level

Take what’s on DB’s list… make it better with say the exception of Kosi, Ball and a few others… add Schneider, Dempster, Gardiner, King, Armitage, Steven (over the journey), Lovett (for a cup of coffee), Dawson, Jones (who you’ve added as a plodder!?)… way better depth

Easily the strongest saints list ever assembled.

Lol Lovett?? You’re reaching
Ok GT is the greatest
RTB should move aside and we should go back to run n gun footy with no defence

Yeah I didn’t say that

This was a discussion about those two lists.

[skeptic]

On a side note… we obviously know most of the story with Lovett and what happened.

But I’m actually interested to know… who actually pushed for him to be sacked?

I really can’t imagine that would have been a RTB deal… I imagine that he would/could have kept his personal feelings intact long enough to get on with going for the flag…
Don’t ask me why I have this impression but I’ve always thought there was a bit of a sense of the players, especially those that knew the victim as demanding/pushing for it.

Anyone got any insight on this?

[asiu]

(the players/our captain) as i remember it

[Trev from the Bush]

23 posts, 8 from Teflon.

It seems he doesn't like GT. Threads like this are like krill for a hungry whale, such in eveything and blow what you don't want out.