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Post: # 2001575Post nostalgicsaint »

Given it is likely to be a bog and stoppage heavy this week could be the week to go a little taller. Especially in light of the pies ruck issues.

Reckon we move one of Cordy or Windhager to the Sub this week and we bring in Campbell.

Stocker Howard Wilkie
Milera Battle Sinclair

Wood Ross Byrnes

Gresham Owens Hill
Hammer Marshall Butler

Campbell
Crouch
Clark

Cordy, Higgins, Paton, Phillipou


Sub: Windhager


Cordy or Campbell to be subbed for Windhager when we need more run.


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Post: # 2001580Post SaintPav »

We need more run, not less, particular against the Pies. The only way Campbell comes in is to directly replace Marshall which I hope never happens. I can’t see that happening under the current set up.


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Post: # 2001582Post nostalgicsaint »

In a bog first use is a massive advantage.

Someone has to be sub and it seems none of our smalls put their hand up in the VFL.

Campbell will give first use and work his ass off knowing he is likely to be the one subbed out.


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Post: # 2001584Post Banger9798 »

Same 22 but new sub
Cupboard is pretty bare

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Post: # 2001585Post axcellence »

Pies gave away a lot of turnover goals against the Lions.

St Kilda is good at converting turnovers into goals.

Pies will try and have less turnovers given the Lions game.

St Kilda is no. 1 in the comp for marks. So, the wet advantages Pies as marks will be hard to take.

It's looking like a real advantage game for the Pies.

Pies have won it's recent Adelaide games with a margin of 1 goal or less. Funnily, they haven't played Port in Adelaide there in ages... talk about a preferential treatment.

So, it's going to be a nail biter right down to the last minute I think.


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Post: # 2001591Post Teflon »

I like the idea of 2 rucks to stretch them - that’s where they’re weak right now
Marshall goes forward helps force contest
Cordy out
Campbell in for mine
Their forwards aren’t tall
Lose no run


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Post: # 2001593Post Moods »

Campbell comes in once we’ve hit the emergency button. Otherwise let’s not outsmart ourselves. Marshall is going great and cordy is a competent aggressive back up. Just play our game and we’ll be fine


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Post: # 2001598Post Impatient Sainter »

You don't go taller in the wet you go the other way, but I cant see us making any changes.


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Post: # 2001599Post B.M »

Ruckman are most important in wet conditions

As it becomes a stoppage game


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Post: # 2001614Post SaintPav »

Is it going to be wet?


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Post: # 2001616Post therabbitinthehat »

SaintPav wrote: Mon 10 Apr 2023 12:32am Is it going to be wet?
Not neccessarily, forecast is 17 and rain for that day, but 18 and rain the previous day

Also the ground will have seen 5 games over the previous 4 days before ours (including 2 the day before and 1 earlier that same day) so if the surface can handle that it'll be a miracle.


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Post: # 2001618Post Scollop »

Collingwood played in slippery conditions last week. The humidity means it may as well be wet weather in Brisbane

They'll be better prepared than us. They also would have gained a lot from their encounter with Brisbane.

I don't think we have a guy like the Big O who can do a Clark Keating and punch the ball 10-20 m clear of the congestion

Marshall may not be able to do that. We need to bring our best ground ball winners into each contest.

At least 3-4 at a time. Gresham, Owens, Pou, Clark, Windy, Byrnes and the regulars in Ross and Crouch (as well as Rowan himself)

Our coaches would have also learnt what works and what doesn't against Collingwood's second and third string ruck stocks

Rowan will have had 7 full days rest for recovery. If he's not carrying any niggles, I'd just have him and Cordy/Owens as per previous games


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Post: # 2001623Post nostalgicsaint »

B.M wrote: Sun 09 Apr 2023 11:47pm Ruckman are most important in wet conditions

As it becomes a stoppage game
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Post: # 2001624Post Scollop »

Scollop wrote: Mon 10 Apr 2023 1:29am Collingwood played in slippery conditions last week. The humidity means it may as well be wet weather in Brisbane

They'll be better prepared than us. They also would have gained a lot from their encounter with Brisbane.

I don't think we have a guy like the Big O who can do a Clark Keating and punch the ball 10-20 m clear of the congestion

Marshall may not be able to do that. We need to bring our best ground ball winners into each contest.

At least 3-4 at a time. Gresham, Owens, Pou, Clark, Windy, Byrnes and the regulars in Ross and Crouch (as well as Rowan himself)

Our coaches would have also learnt what works and what doesn't against Collingwood's second and third string ruck stocks

Rowan will have had 7 full days rest for recovery. If he's not carrying any niggles, I'd just have him and Cordy/Owens as per previous games
I left out Sinclair. It was nice to see him starting at centre bounces

I think we need to prepare to battle Adams, Mitchell and De Goey and win those ground balls


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Post: # 2001635Post Moods »

nostalgicsaint wrote: Sun 09 Apr 2023 9:12pm In a bog first use is a massive advantage.

Someone has to be sub and it seems none of our smalls put their hand up in the VFL.

Campbell will give first use and work his ass off knowing he is likely to be the one subbed out.
WTF are you on about? We're 7 days out from the game and you're forecasting a bog?


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Post: # 2001651Post shanegrambeau »

In preparing for the Saints, the Pies will watch the undermanned and midget Hawthorn forward line today and the way Hawthorn are forced to short-pass their way forward, trying to prevent Geelong from getting a hold of them.


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Post: # 2001662Post Sainter_Dad »

It will NOT be the ruck contest that wins this game - nor the clearances

It will be the scores from Turnovers

If we can make best use of their attacking mindset and get them on the rebound we will win - if not they will overrun us.


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Post: # 2001690Post Teflon »

Sainter_Dad wrote: Mon 10 Apr 2023 11:23am It will NOT be the ruck contest that wins this game - nor the clearances

It will be the scores from Turnovers

If we can make best use of their attacking mindset and get them on the rebound we will win - if not they will overrun us.
You have to take advantage of the ruck situation
It’s not just centre clearance (though these going forward would be nice)
Marshall can then rest forward that stretches Moore and co and brings our small/medium sized into the game
Eg Caminiti all of a sudden gets a lesser defender…
Lions did it well


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Post: # 2001698Post flack »

They wont have rucks.
Banger has a lot of intel on the Magpies.


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Post: # 2001706Post Toy Saint »

Tony74 hinted that Iasac Keeler may be close.

He's a Adelaide boy, and I believe ruck/forward. Perhaps a good chance to debut against a weak ruck, and further exploit Pies weakness.


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Post: # 2001710Post longtimesaint »

I think he is more likely to play VFL before the seniors


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Post: # 2001713Post Rubyjo »

Does seem like a Good vs Evil game. We are a team of innocents vs a team of deplorables .


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Post: # 2001715Post thejiggingsaint »

I'm looking forward to this game with no expectations other than it being a CRACKING game of football! Enjoy the GAME colleagues, let the result be what it will be!

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Post: # 2001754Post Bruce G McAbee »

Adelaide Oval will not be boggy.


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Post: # 2001760Post Rubyjo »

Bruce G McAbee wrote: Mon 10 Apr 2023 6:12pm Adelaide Oval will not be boggy.
Looks very wet with a front and fading minor cyclone approaching


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