According to fox footy ...
Moderators: Saintsational Administrators, Saintsational Moderators
- skeptic
- Saintsational Legend
- Posts: 17048
- Joined: Wed 10 Mar 2004 7:10pm
- Has thanked: 3663 times
- Been thanked: 2927 times
Re: According to fox footy ...
Rd1 - Freo: 17 disposals, 2 tackles, 2 goals
Rd2 - WB: 18 disposals, 2 tackles, 2 goals
Rd3 - Ess: 23 disposals, 0 tackles, 1.1
General consensus is that Gresh had a miserable night vs Essendon where things didn’t go his way, fumbled, missed a goal but kicked a late one when it mattered that took the ugliness off his night to a degree. But…
My feeling is that overall, Gresh has been pretty solid so far this year. He’s looked really dangerous up forward, kicked goals, pushed up the ground at times and gotten kicks and whilst he was outshined by both Butler and Higgins on the night… had been much better than both overall so far. Gresh’s performance will improve markedly if he can just improve his decision making especially under pressure. For that reason I think he’s a lot better suited to a forward pocket role where his natural inclination to sink goals benefits us more than it hurts us.
Overall… I reckon he gets marked harshly here. He’s a good player and a real asset to our team.
Rd2 - WB: 18 disposals, 2 tackles, 2 goals
Rd3 - Ess: 23 disposals, 0 tackles, 1.1
General consensus is that Gresh had a miserable night vs Essendon where things didn’t go his way, fumbled, missed a goal but kicked a late one when it mattered that took the ugliness off his night to a degree. But…
My feeling is that overall, Gresh has been pretty solid so far this year. He’s looked really dangerous up forward, kicked goals, pushed up the ground at times and gotten kicks and whilst he was outshined by both Butler and Higgins on the night… had been much better than both overall so far. Gresh’s performance will improve markedly if he can just improve his decision making especially under pressure. For that reason I think he’s a lot better suited to a forward pocket role where his natural inclination to sink goals benefits us more than it hurts us.
Overall… I reckon he gets marked harshly here. He’s a good player and a real asset to our team.
-
- Saintsational Legend
- Posts: 12099
- Joined: Sun 11 Sep 2011 2:26pm
- Has thanked: 3705 times
- Been thanked: 2578 times
Re: According to fox footy ...
Gresh played his part in the fast start we had against Essenden.
He lined up in the middle at the first centre bounce of the game.
He was the first Saint to get his hands on the footy and he got a clean disposal by hand to his team mates which led to the first goal
He has strengths. He hunts the footy and can change direction on a dime…
But that doesn’t excuse him when he burns he team mates
He lined up in the middle at the first centre bounce of the game.
He was the first Saint to get his hands on the footy and he got a clean disposal by hand to his team mates which led to the first goal
He has strengths. He hunts the footy and can change direction on a dime…
But that doesn’t excuse him when he burns he team mates
-
- Saintsational Legend
- Posts: 10505
- Joined: Fri 16 Feb 2007 3:24pm
- Location: WARBURTON
- Has thanked: 148 times
- Been thanked: 1344 times
Re: According to fox footy ...
No established keg targets doesn’t help. Few times the ball was kicked forward our players gave up front position
NO IFS OR BUTS HARVS IS KING OF THE AFL
-
- Saintsational Legend
- Posts: 18653
- Joined: Thu 11 Mar 2004 1:36am
- Has thanked: 1993 times
- Been thanked: 872 times
Re: According to fox footy ...
He’s a real livewire up forward and a handful for anyone if he can be isolated one on one. Our opponents panic when he is any space.
-
- Club Player
- Posts: 1223
- Joined: Fri 07 May 2010 3:00pm
- Has thanked: 204 times
- Been thanked: 307 times
Re: According to fox footy ...
Good analysisskeptic wrote: ↑Wed 05 Apr 2023 9:51pm Rd1 - Freo: 17 disposals, 2 tackles, 2 goals
Rd2 - WB: 18 disposals, 2 tackles, 2 goals
Rd3 - Ess: 23 disposals, 0 tackles, 1.1
General consensus is that Gresh had a miserable night vs Essendon where things didn’t go his way, fumbled, missed a goal but kicked a late one when it mattered that took the ugliness off his night to a degree. But…
My feeling is that overall, Gresh has been pretty solid so far this year. He’s looked really dangerous up forward, kicked goals, pushed up the ground at times and gotten kicks and whilst he was outshined by both Butler and Higgins on the night… had been much better than both overall so far. Gresh’s performance will improve markedly if he can just improve his decision making especially under pressure. For that reason I think he’s a lot better suited to a forward pocket role where his natural inclination to sink goals benefits us more than it hurts us.
Overall… I reckon he gets marked harshly here. He’s a good player and a real asset to our team.
- meher baba
- Saintsational Legend
- Posts: 7223
- Joined: Mon 14 Aug 2006 6:49am
- Location: Tasmania
- Has thanked: 1 time
- Been thanked: 516 times
Re: According to fox footy ...
He's a good player who could potentially be a lot better. He's had a lot of injury to deal with in recent years and it's understandable that he's still a little rusty.
I reckon he will have a breakout game soon where he'll start doing most things right. Let's hope it's Saturday night.
Another player who might potentially break out on Saturday night is Caminiti. If you watch the replay of the game against the Bombers, you'll see quite a few moments in which he came very close to bringing off something amazing, but things didn't end up quite going his way.
I reckon he will have a breakout game soon where he'll start doing most things right. Let's hope it's Saturday night.
Another player who might potentially break out on Saturday night is Caminiti. If you watch the replay of the game against the Bombers, you'll see quite a few moments in which he came very close to bringing off something amazing, but things didn't end up quite going his way.
"It is useless to attempt to reason a man out of a thing he was never reasoned into."
- Jonathan Swift
- Jonathan Swift
-
- Club Player
- Posts: 537
- Joined: Wed 14 Sep 2011 8:33pm
- Location: not victoria
- Has thanked: 12 times
- Been thanked: 79 times
Re: According to fox footy ...
if only he could kick - and by that I mean to the advantage of a team mate! It's hard for others to adapt to that insufficiency. That said, he's worth a spot and he has to figure out how to improve.
the invisible and the non existent look very much alike
- The_Dud
- Saintsational Legend
- Posts: 14060
- Joined: Sun 27 May 2007 9:53pm
- Location: Bendigo
- Has thanked: 1315 times
- Been thanked: 2093 times
Re: According to fox footy ...
Still don't think we can carry Gresh, Higgins and Butler all in the same side once we start getting a few players back, 2 of the 3 for me.
Gresh was a lock but his kicking just seems to have dropped right off, and Butler and Higgins big games have closed the gap.
Will be interesting.
Gresh was a lock but his kicking just seems to have dropped right off, and Butler and Higgins big games have closed the gap.
Will be interesting.
All posters are equal, but some posters are more equal than others.
- Sanctorum
- Club Player
- Posts: 1962
- Joined: Sun 31 Aug 2014 10:08pm
- Has thanked: 1550 times
- Been thanked: 1074 times
Re: According to fox footy ...
No question that Gresham oozes potential, he can be dynamic and occasionally pulls a rabbit out of his hat and scores a miraculous goal.
It's just that he has, by virtiue of what Rubiyo weirdly terms his 'insufficiences', on occasion let his team mates down, and no, rather than his team mates adapting to Gresham, he needs to adapt to the team culture.
Get that sorted out and he'll be the champion small we all want him to become.....
It's just that he has, by virtiue of what Rubiyo weirdly terms his 'insufficiences', on occasion let his team mates down, and no, rather than his team mates adapting to Gresham, he needs to adapt to the team culture.
Get that sorted out and he'll be the champion small we all want him to become.....
"Any candidate for political office, once chosen for leadership, must have the will to take the wheel of a very powerful car, tasked from time to time to make a fast journey down a narrow, precipitous mountain road – and be highly skilled at driving. Otherwise, he is disqualified from the company of competent leaders."
John Carroll, Professor Emeritus of Sociology at La Trobe University.
John Carroll, Professor Emeritus of Sociology at La Trobe University.
- Sanctorum
- Club Player
- Posts: 1962
- Joined: Sun 31 Aug 2014 10:08pm
- Has thanked: 1550 times
- Been thanked: 1074 times
Re: According to fox footy ...
"Any candidate for political office, once chosen for leadership, must have the will to take the wheel of a very powerful car, tasked from time to time to make a fast journey down a narrow, precipitous mountain road – and be highly skilled at driving. Otherwise, he is disqualified from the company of competent leaders."
John Carroll, Professor Emeritus of Sociology at La Trobe University.
John Carroll, Professor Emeritus of Sociology at La Trobe University.
-
- Saintsational Legend
- Posts: 4567
- Joined: Thu 20 May 2010 11:49pm
- Has thanked: 120 times
- Been thanked: 315 times
-
- Saintsational Legend
- Posts: 6090
- Joined: Sat 12 Sep 2015 1:03pm
- Has thanked: 337 times
- Been thanked: 1570 times
Re: According to fox footy ...
If Gresham hits his skills as we know he can,he may win a brownlow. He is by far our most dangerous mid and our most complex footballer. If he gets it right for a stretch and we have 35 fit players to rotate. He could be our brightest star.
He could draw us 2 first round picks too.
Either way, he is in great physical condition and looks to be on fire athletically atm.
He could draw us 2 first round picks too.
Either way, he is in great physical condition and looks to be on fire athletically atm.
-
- Club Player
- Posts: 921
- Joined: Sat 24 Oct 2020 10:22am
- Has thanked: 217 times
- Been thanked: 906 times
Re: According to fox footy ...
Sanctorum wrote: ↑Thu 06 Apr 2023 12:52pm No question that Gresham oozes potential, he can be dynamic and occasionally pulls a rabbit out of his hat and scores a miraculous goal.
It's just that he has, by virtiue of what Rubiyo weirdly terms his 'insufficiences', on occasion let his team mates down, and no, rather than his team mates adapting to Gresham, he needs to adapt to the team culture.
Get that sorted out and he'll be the champion small we all want him to become.....
Can’t wear the potential tag..this is his eighth season!
-
- Club Player
- Posts: 1364
- Joined: Sun 03 Oct 2004 8:45pm
- Has thanked: 93 times
- Been thanked: 93 times
Re: According to fox footy ...
He should be AA. He’s unpredictable and has the X factor. Just needs to improve on his blaze away instincts. When it comes off, it looks spectacular. Not when it doesn’t.
- Sanctorum
- Club Player
- Posts: 1962
- Joined: Sun 31 Aug 2014 10:08pm
- Has thanked: 1550 times
- Been thanked: 1074 times
Re: According to fox footy ...
Yes and no Sm65, I often hear commentators say that Gresham is a star, for example that he will be hotly sought after by a number of clubs at the end of this year when he becomes a free agent.Saintmike65 wrote: ↑Fri 07 Apr 2023 9:03amSanctorum wrote: ↑Thu 06 Apr 2023 12:52pm No question that Gresham oozes potential, he can be dynamic and occasionally pulls a rabbit out of his hat and scores a miraculous goal.
It's just that he has, by virtiue of what Rubiyo weirdly terms his 'insufficiences', on occasion let his team mates down, and no, rather than his team mates adapting to Gresham, he needs to adapt to the team culture.
Get that sorted out and he'll be the champion small we all want him to become.....
Can’t wear the potential tag..this is his eighth season!
The good thing is that 2023 will be when he will be found out and either prove that he IS elite, or stagnate in the FAQ AFL player category.
I really hope it's the former....
"Any candidate for political office, once chosen for leadership, must have the will to take the wheel of a very powerful car, tasked from time to time to make a fast journey down a narrow, precipitous mountain road – and be highly skilled at driving. Otherwise, he is disqualified from the company of competent leaders."
John Carroll, Professor Emeritus of Sociology at La Trobe University.
John Carroll, Professor Emeritus of Sociology at La Trobe University.
- saintsRrising
- Saintsational Legend
- Posts: 30098
- Joined: Mon 15 Mar 2004 11:07am
- Location: Melbourne
- Has thanked: 711 times
- Been thanked: 1235 times
Re: According to fox footy ...
While in the main I agree, he has wasted the ball forward at times by just blazing away when he had some good options to pass to. And Gresh is not a long kick, so that attempted long kick rarely sems to work for him.skeptic wrote: ↑Wed 05 Apr 2023 9:51pm Rd1 - Freo: 17 disposals, 2 tackles, 2 goals
Rd2 - WB: 18 disposals, 2 tackles, 2 goals
Rd3 - Ess: 23 disposals, 0 tackles, 1.1
General consensus is that Gresh had a miserable night vs Essendon where things didn’t go his way, fumbled, missed a goal but kicked a late one when it mattered that took the ugliness off his night to a degree. But…
My feeling is that overall, Gresh has been pretty solid so far this year. He’s looked really dangerous up forward, kicked goals, pushed up the ground at times and gotten kicks and whilst he was outshined by both Butler and Higgins on the night… had been much better than both overall so far. Gresh’s performance will improve markedly if he can just improve his decision making especially under pressure. For that reason I think he’s a lot better suited to a forward pocket role where his natural inclination to sink goals benefits us more than it hurts us.
Overall… I reckon he gets marked harshly here. He’s a good player and a real asset to our team.
Gresh's main fault is that at times that with his kicking that he too often attempts the incredible, rather than the more achievable.
"Lower the eyes" seems to be the current footspeak that he just needs to master.
If he could just improve that aspect of his game he would be a true "gun". So instead of being "solid" as you say he would instead be a "gamebreaker/changer".
In short, Gesh "wins" the ball well. But his "use" of the ball is a below what it needs to be to be a "gun" player.
Flying the World in comfort thanks to FF Points....
- WellardSaint
- Saintsational Legend
- Posts: 8389
- Joined: Sat 26 May 2012 11:25am
- Location: Perth- the best weather in Oz, but the worst rednecks.
- Has thanked: 1910 times
- Been thanked: 887 times
Re: According to fox footy ...
He handed off to Hill instead of taking a shot, as he normally would from that range.
Maybe he's learning
Maybe he's learning
A real Sainter will pledge allegiance to the ❤ and despise the Pies, the Blues, and the Injectors.
Remember one of the 10 Commandments : Thou shalt have no other team before thee
Remember one of the 10 Commandments : Thou shalt have no other team before thee