What the hell is going on with Membury?

[MC Gusto]

You can’t rely on the weeks away on the injury list until they are ‘test’

This is the same for most, if not all, clubs

Max has been 6-9 since he first injured the shoulder

The injury happened in the first week of Xmas, 9 weeks from there means he would have been available at the end of January.

The best way to determine the turn around is a Google search for the average return at AFL level for the specific injury, then from there you can apply a variation depending on how well the rehabilitation has progressed, some can return a little earlier, some can return a little later, even a lot later if there is a complication.

Take Steely's injury for example, a broken color bone is 8-12 weeks, last year Steely came back within 5 weeks and so the fact a fairly innocuous impact event obliterated the area of the original repair I wouldn't mind betting the doctors will be a little more conservative this time around, I'm guessing at least 8 weeks out this time around, at least. Why risk his long term career when a flag is not a realistic possibility this year.

He’s been on 6-9 since round 1 is my point

[66Iwasthere]

About three weeks ago Tim was doing drills, running between cones, as part of his rehab. He appeared to be unhindered but I can only think now he pulled up sore. Whereas under previous regimes he would have played sore with 70% fitness, under Ross and Misson he will not return until he is 100% fit and is fully match conditioned. They are playing the long game.

[Moods]

About three weeks ago Tim was doing drills, running between cones, as part of his rehab. He appeared to be unhindered but I can only think now he pulled up sore. Whereas under previous regimes he would have played sore with 70% fitness, under Ross and Misson he will not return until he is 100% fit and is fully match conditioned. They are playing the long game.

If that's actually the case then I'm completely comfortable with that. I would rather players return fit rather than rushed back.

[saintly]

About three weeks ago Tim was doing drills, running between cones, as part of his rehab. He appeared to be unhindered but I can only think now he pulled up sore. Whereas under previous regimes he would have played sore with 70% fitness, under Ross and Misson he will not return until he is 100% fit and is fully match conditioned. They are playing the long game.

No they wouldn't have played injured. Not under Ratts. Provide proof

[WellardSaint]

You can’t rely on the weeks away on the injury list until they are ‘test’

This is the same for most, if not all, clubs

Max has been 6-9 since he first injured the shoulder

The injury happened in the first week of Xmas, 9 weeks from there means he would have been available at the end of January.

The best way to determine the turn around is a Google search for the average return at AFL level for the specific injury, then from there you can apply a variation depending on how well the rehabilitation has progressed, some can return a little earlier, some can return a little later, even a lot later if there is a complication.

Take Steely's injury for example, a broken color bone is 8-12 weeks, last year Steely came back within 5 weeks and so the fact a fairly innocuous impact event obliterated the area of the original repair I wouldn't mind betting the doctors will be a little more conservative this time around, I'm guessing at least 8 weeks out this time around, at least. Why risk his long term career when a flag is not a realistic possibility this year.

There's already a plate there from last time, another plate going in. I hope they hold him back an extra week or 2 for his own sake

They need more flexible plates

..maybe the fact that plates are metal alloys that puts pressure on other bones and joints when there's impact.

...similarly...I remember hearing that they stopped taping up all players ankles because it created more risk of an acl injury

I think they're titanium.
There's a champion aussie BMX rider called Caroline Buchanan, she's been competing for years.
Maybe 4 yrs ago, she had to go under the knife for very extensive surgery, as she had several plates on her sternum, i think collarbone too, that hadn't done their job.
Needed removal and new ones.
Massive surgical job.
So yeah, surgery isn't 100% guaranteed.
I just hope he comes out the other side with no isues

[St.Swannie]

My old man and me have a theory .

They are actually adding a few weeks to the recovery to ensure that the injured players come back 110% strength and at 110% fitness to slot right back in, rather than have to build up some of their fitness base in game.
So Membrey could be back now, but he might be slightly underdone, and need to play a bit of fitness catchup, whereas they are pushing to ensure they are up with the same game day fitness and game plan sense so that they slot straight back in.

Just our theory, so looking forward to having these boys back soon.

[Sainter_Dad]

My old man and me have a theory .

They are actually adding a few weeks to the recovery to ensure that the injured players come back 110% strength and at 110% fitness to slot right back in, rather than have to build up some of their fitness base in game.
So Membrey could be back now, but he might be slightly underdone, and need to play a bit of fitness catchup, whereas they are pushing to ensure they are up with the same game day fitness and game plan sense so that they slot straight back in.

Just our theory, so looking forward to having these boys back soon.

I agree an if we were 0-3 I think we may have seen Membrey (as we would have in the past)

[WellardSaint]

I agree with St Swannie.
When Windy was named as sub, I wondered why (as did many others).
It makes sense to hold guys back until they're at or near the level of the others.
If they're underdone, they can't run as much, so can't put pressure on and cover oppo, then they become a liability.
They can't perform their role for the whole game.
Having to spend too long on the bench to catch breath, will hurt our rotations.

The Injectors brought in Stringer after one VFL game, and named Hind as sub (41 possies in VFL) maybe cos Stringer is a burst player parked in F50, while Hind is a pure runner.

Remember Dal banging on about non-negotiables, plus Misson's extensive history with Ross and other teams.
Fantastic to see everyone on the same page.
Bloody unreal

[Ozymandias]

Doctor of Philosophy = PhD

[Impatient Sainter]

Apparently he did some running on Thursday, but he pulled up proppy at the end. Hopefully they can sort it before too much longer?