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Re: Umpiring taking the piss

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CURLY wrote: Sun 19 Mar 2023 9:23pm
The Fireman wrote: Sun 19 Mar 2023 9:19pm
CURLY wrote: Sun 19 Mar 2023 9:16pm
The_Dud wrote: Sun 19 Mar 2023 9:11pm
CURLY wrote: Sun 19 Mar 2023 8:29pm The deliberates against Clark and Gresham showed the umpires chose what team to pin.
‘Deliberate’ rule? How many years behind in the rules are you?

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5 goals to zero from frees
Which frees that resulted in goals were illegitimate ?
The free against Wilkie for a start.
Watch it again Wilkie held his jumper and got caught first. Argued the toss and got a fifty against him Sorry just can’t take you seriously
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Re: Umpiring taking the piss

Post: # 1997801Post CURLY »

skeptic wrote: Sun 19 Mar 2023 9:26pm Thought the Howard free was really poor too.

All in all, not a great performance from the umps I thought. Freo certainly got the best of it IMO… only bad call for them I remember was soft free for us in the backline I think in the first.
Howard free was poor as they weren’t paying anything our end.


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Re: Umpiring taking the piss

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CURLY wrote: Sun 19 Mar 2023 9:31pm
The_Dud wrote: Sun 19 Mar 2023 9:25pm
CURLY wrote: Sun 19 Mar 2023 9:22pm
The_Dud wrote: Sun 19 Mar 2023 9:18pm
CURLY wrote: Sun 19 Mar 2023 9:16pm
The_Dud wrote: Sun 19 Mar 2023 9:11pm
CURLY wrote: Sun 19 Mar 2023 8:29pm The deliberates against Clark and Gresham showed the umpires chose what team to pin.
‘Deliberate’ rule? How many years behind in the rules are you?

Free kick count 23-22 our way.

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5 goals to zero from frees
More lies Curly.

At least you’re consistent!

It was a classic from the umpire when Pou marked then got barrelled and he awarded the free and we goaled from the square.

Five fFreo goals from frees
How did Cordy kick his goal?

You claim you’re not a troll and should be taken seriously, then create a thread complaining about rules that don’t exist anymore and blatantly lie about how many goals we kicked from free kicks.

It’s laughable.

Just to easy really. You don’t take any notice of umpires apparently but comment about us being undisciplined after basically every free. Then pluck the one scoring shot from a free.
So, how many goals did we kick from frees?

Wilkie and Steele both made school-boy errors by arguing with the umpire, pointing to the screen telling them to watch the replay.

Very poor from two leaders at the club, hopefully Ross has a word to them.


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Re: Umpiring taking the piss

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Love that Curly's umpires thread has hit the 2nd page. Shows that it's worthy, but in it's own thread. Onya Curls.


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Re: Umpiring taking the piss

Post: # 1997805Post saynta »

The_Dud wrote: Sun 19 Mar 2023 9:11pm
CURLY wrote: Sun 19 Mar 2023 8:29pm The deliberates against Clark and Gresham showed the umpires chose what team to pin.
‘Deliberate’ rule? How many years behind in the rules are you?

Free kick count 23-22 our way.

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You are one of the loudest critics of CURLEY posting adverse comments on maggot decisions in the game threads.

At least have the decency to stay out of this thread.


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SaintJohno wrote: Sun 19 Mar 2023 9:35pm Love that Curly's umpires thread has hit the 2nd page. Shows that it's worthy, but in it's own thread. Onya Curls.
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saynta wrote: Sun 19 Mar 2023 9:35pm
The_Dud wrote: Sun 19 Mar 2023 9:11pm
CURLY wrote: Sun 19 Mar 2023 8:29pm The deliberates against Clark and Gresham showed the umpires chose what team to pin.
‘Deliberate’ rule? How many years behind in the rules are you?

Free kick count 23-22 our way.

Crucified 🙃
You are one of the loudest critics of CURLEY posting adverse comments on maggot decisions in the game threads.

At least have the decency to stay out of this thread.
You are right saynta. I shouldn’t be here either. I’m out.


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Re: Umpiring taking the piss

Post: # 1997811Post saynta »

The Fireman wrote: Sun 19 Mar 2023 9:41pm
saynta wrote: Sun 19 Mar 2023 9:35pm
The_Dud wrote: Sun 19 Mar 2023 9:11pm
CURLY wrote: Sun 19 Mar 2023 8:29pm The deliberates against Clark and Gresham showed the umpires chose what team to pin.
‘Deliberate’ rule? How many years behind in the rules are you?

Free kick count 23-22 our way.

Crucified 🙃
You are one of the loudest critics of CURLEY posting adverse comments on maggot decisions in the game threads.

At least have the decency to stay out of this thread.
You are right saynta. I shouldn’t be here either. I’m out.
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Re: Umpiring taking the piss

Post: # 1997817Post CURLY »

The_Dud wrote: Sun 19 Mar 2023 9:35pm
CURLY wrote: Sun 19 Mar 2023 9:31pm
The_Dud wrote: Sun 19 Mar 2023 9:25pm
CURLY wrote: Sun 19 Mar 2023 9:22pm
The_Dud wrote: Sun 19 Mar 2023 9:18pm
CURLY wrote: Sun 19 Mar 2023 9:16pm
The_Dud wrote: Sun 19 Mar 2023 9:11pm
CURLY wrote: Sun 19 Mar 2023 8:29pm The deliberates against Clark and Gresham showed the umpires chose what team to pin.
‘Deliberate’ rule? How many years behind in the rules are you?

Free kick count 23-22 our way.

Crucified 🙃

5 goals to zero from frees
More lies Curly.

At least you’re consistent!

It was a classic from the umpire when Pou marked then got barrelled and he awarded the free and we goaled from the square.

Five fFreo goals from frees
How did Cordy kick his goal?

You claim you’re not a troll and should be taken seriously, then create a thread complaining about rules that don’t exist anymore and blatantly lie about how many goals we kicked from free kicks.

It’s laughable.

Just to easy really. You don’t take any notice of umpires apparently but comment about us being undisciplined after basically every free. Then pluck the one scoring shot from a free.
So, how many goals did we kick from frees?

Wilkie and Steele both made school-boy errors by arguing with the umpire, pointing to the screen telling them to watch the replay.

Very poor from two leaders at the club, hopefully Ross has a word to them.

Umpire makes a blatant mistake s***s himself awards 50. Just terrible umpiring in a run of ridiculous calls.


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saynta wrote: Sun 19 Mar 2023 5:52pm 5 goals, 4 of them gifted by the maggots with a couple of 50 metre penalties thrown in to ensure their bets are safe.
Yep, we killed two birds (Freo and the maggots) with one stone today!!


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skeptic wrote: Sun 19 Mar 2023 8:35pm
CURLY wrote: Sun 19 Mar 2023 8:29pm The deliberates against Clark and Gresham showed the umpires chose what team to pin.
Don’t remember the Clark one but I shouted at the TV when they paid the Gresh one. Dog got quite a fright on my lap. The damn thing curled to the boundary!!!

I thought the free against Howard just before halftime was soft too
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The Gresham deliberate was a shocking call

The ball when kicked was travelling parallel to the boundary line then takes a a bad bounce which sends the ball slowly curling towards the boundary line - ump was just dying to pay it

Deliberate should be absolute clear deliberate - straight at the boundary line - like the Docker player (Clarke??) who blatantly tapped it straight over from a few meters out


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Devilhead wrote: Mon 20 Mar 2023 4:35pm Deliberate should be absolute clear deliberate - straight at the boundary line - like the Docker player (Clarke??) who blatantly tapped it straight over from a few meters out
The rule is not "deliberate".
It is "insufficient intent".

It's a stupid rule and needs to be scrapped immediately.
If we have to have it, then I'd rather see last kick paid between the arcs, and remove any trace of a "deliberate" or "insufficient intent" inside the 50m arcs.

There is skill and tactics in a dribble kick that gains 20+ metres and trickles out of bounds.


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The worst "insufficient attempt" of keeping the ball in play are players under pressure with the ball who spin toward the boundary line acting as if they didn't know it was there

We hardly ever see a 50m paid in these instances

Yet a desperate kick under pressure along the boundary line which bounces at a 45 to 90 angle is seemingly worse


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Life Long Saint wrote: Mon 20 Mar 2023 4:51pm
Devilhead wrote: Mon 20 Mar 2023 4:35pm Deliberate should be absolute clear deliberate - straight at the boundary line - like the Docker player (Clarke??) who blatantly tapped it straight over from a few meters out
The rule is not "deliberate".
It is "insufficient intent".

It's a stupid rule and needs to be scrapped immediately.
If we have to have it, then I'd rather see last kick paid between the arcs, and remove any trace of a "deliberate" or "insufficient intent" inside the 50m arcs.

There is skill and tactics in a dribble kick that gains 20+ metres and trickles out of bounds.
I liked the rule before they changed it. Every time it’s paid now it seems like a stinker and often when it’s not it seems like it blatantly should be


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Gresham was running towards the boundary and had an opponent coming across his body. If he’d pulled it back towards the middle any more it would have been smothered.


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Yawn here we go again, discussing umpires.


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King Max wrote: Mon 20 Mar 2023 5:22pm Gresham was running towards the boundary and had an opponent coming across his body. If he’d pulled it back towards the middle any more it would have been smothered.
Correct. Wrong call by the umpire. Gresham kicked the footy as hard as he could down the line and at least five metres away from the boundary line.

If the ball continued on its flight path it would have had to travel 70 metres to travel out of bounds but it unfortunately bounced and veered sharply towards the boundary

It wasn't a dribble kick like you see when a player is kicking for goal. It was kicked in the air and not along the ground

It did an off break and bounced end on end towards the boundary but hey...We have an oval ball in our game!!

The ball could have just as easily done a leg break and stayed in the field of play..which possibly would have been more to our advantage. He didn't deliberately try and get it out


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King Max wrote: Mon 20 Mar 2023 5:22pm Gresham was running towards the boundary and had an opponent coming across his body. If he’d pulled it back towards the middle any more it would have been smothered.
Yep. Poor call by the umpires, they don't understand how to play the game.


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Scollop wrote: Tue 21 Mar 2023 12:30am
King Max wrote: Mon 20 Mar 2023 5:22pm Gresham was running towards the boundary and had an opponent coming across his body. If he’d pulled it back towards the middle any more it would have been smothered.
Correct. Wrong call by the umpire. Gresham kicked the footy as hard as he could down the line and at least five metres away from the boundary line.

If the ball continued on its flight path it would have had to travel 70 metres to travel out of bounds but it unfortunately bounced and veered sharply towards the boundary

It wasn't a dribble kick like you see when a player is kicking for goal. It was kicked in the air and not along the ground

It did an off break and bounced end on end towards the boundary but hey...We have an oval ball in our game!!

The ball could have just as easily done a leg break and stayed in the field of play..which possibly would have been more to our advantage. He didn't deliberately try and get it out
Incredibly, the Poxtel commentators said it was the correct decision.

When a ball does a leg break like that 15 meters away from the boundary line, it should be a throw in.


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SaintPav wrote: Tue 21 Mar 2023 9:40am
Scollop wrote: Tue 21 Mar 2023 12:30am
King Max wrote: Mon 20 Mar 2023 5:22pm Gresham was running towards the boundary and had an opponent coming across his body. If he’d pulled it back towards the middle any more it would have been smothered.
Correct. Wrong call by the umpire. Gresham kicked the footy as hard as he could down the line and at least five metres away from the boundary line.

If the ball continued on its flight path it would have had to travel 70 metres to travel out of bounds but it unfortunately bounced and veered sharply towards the boundary

It wasn't a dribble kick like you see when a player is kicking for goal. It was kicked in the air and not along the ground

It did an off break and bounced end on end towards the boundary but hey...We have an oval ball in our game!!

The ball could have just as easily done a leg break and stayed in the field of play..which possibly would have been more to our advantage. He didn't deliberately try and get it out
Incredibly, the Poxtel commentators said it was the correct decision.

When a ball does a leg break like that 15 meters away from the boundary line, it should be a throw in.
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They had Freo in all their multis

And, I got my offy's and leggy's mixed up...oooops


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saynta wrote: Sun 19 Mar 2023 9:35pm
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Post: # 1998159Post Beno88 »

The 50m penalties were both extremely soft, as were the free & mark awarded prior.

Fremantle kicked 4.1 directly from free kicks / 50m penalties. We kicked 1 goal directly from a free and another from advantage.

Gresham's kick out of bounds was 100% deliberate, there wasn't a St Kilda player anywhere near it, but it gained us important territory and time to reset. He knew what he was doing, so did the umpire.

The worst decision of the night was a bizarre advantage paid to us despite the ball being in flight to a contest at the time.

Umpire 25 struggled, the other three were fine.


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Post: # 1998189Post maverick »

The Taberner free was not there, Wilkie was held at the same time just as much. Having paid that free, it should have been advantage and a goal to Fyfe. How many errors in one passage does a umpire want to make.

It’s ok to pay the Clark insufficient intent, but why did the initial decision of throw it in get reversed? And why wasn’t the young one paid later which would have given us a shot on goal?

The mark paid to aish is laughable and how another umpire didn’t overrule that is mind boggling.

They lost control of the game in the 2nd quarter and paying 50s for that type of dissent only makes it worse for them, whether they are instructed to or not.


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