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D.B.Cooper wrote: ↑Sat 27 Aug 2022 11:06am
I wonder why he wasn’t tried on a wing or midfield in the VFL.
Good running capacity and agile.
Great athletically but always looked a step behind in reacting as a key back.
Hopefully he plays VFL and potentially gets another crack at the top level.
One has to imagine that he’d be too far behind in the pecking order
I mean guys like Bytel, Connolly, Byrnes, Long etc can’t consistently get games despite pushing into the middle/centre/up the ground… Dunstan was cut last year as not up to it
Joyce isn’t exactly going to be a step up on any of those.
He’s really garnered a lot of love on this forum hasn’t he.
It’s interesting comparing to some players of similar experience in terms of games played that have l had a few bigger games but attract more negative labels
saint6709 wrote: ↑Sat 27 Aug 2022 12:36pm
In the last few years we have lost 4 KPD's - Carlisle, Clav, Frawley now Joyce - Adams is the only replacement brought in and he by all accounts is way off it atm.
Surely they must have a KPD trade/free agent ( or 2) in mind as replacment ?
D.B.Cooper wrote: ↑Sat 27 Aug 2022 11:06am
I wonder why he wasn’t tried on a wing or midfield in the VFL.
Good running capacity and agile.
Great athletically but always looked a step behind in reacting as a key back.
Hopefully he plays VFL and potentially gets another crack at the top level.
One has to imagine that he’d be too far behind in the pecking order
I mean guys like Bytel, Connolly, Byrnes, Long etc can’t consistently get games despite pushing into the middle/centre/up the ground… Dunstan was cut last year as not up to it
Joyce isn’t exactly going to be a step up on any of those.
He’s really garnered a lot of love on this forum hasn’t he.
It’s interesting comparing to some players of similar experience in terms of games played that have l had a few bigger games but attract more negative labels
Good points skeptic and to extrapolate on the observations about Bytel, Connolly, Dunstan etc and our lack of KPDs...the club has still persisted with a same ol' approach, same players in positions, shuffling deck chairs if you like to still finish in what appears to be this lists destiny, 9th to 12th.
I only hope the slap in the face Windy, Owens and NWM have given the Club is enough to invest in youth. As is giving existing players other responsibilities and stop pigeon holing them.
I liked Joyce - admittedly because he riminded me of Hymie the robot from ‘Get Smart’ (1965-1969 rip)
But he was strong and fast…
The game he and Highmore were told to fly the plane , what a disaster. It destroyed Highmore and Joyce. They were lambs to the slaughter.
mad saint guy wrote: ↑Sun 28 Aug 2022 2:11am
It just occurred to me that they may see Sharman as Joyce's replacement in the KD stocks
Tend to agree. Will not surprise me to see Sharman, Allison and Adams all training with the backs over pre season. Hopefully alongside another, yet unknown, KPD.
saynta wrote: ↑Sun 28 Aug 2022 11:51am
The question is was he good enough to play in a grand final? The answer to that is no, so you have to agree with the saints decision to delist him.
True saynta but perhaps we just start with a final.
D.B.Cooper wrote: ↑Sat 27 Aug 2022 11:06am
I wonder why he wasn’t tried on a wing or midfield in the VFL.
Good running capacity and agile.
Great athletically but always looked a step behind in reacting as a key back.
Hopefully he plays VFL and potentially gets another crack at the top level.
One has to imagine that he’d be too far behind in the pecking order
I mean guys like Bytel, Connolly, Byrnes, Long etc can’t consistently get games despite pushing into the middle/centre/up the ground… Dunstan was cut last year as not up to it
Joyce isn’t exactly going to be a step up on any of those.
He’s really garnered a lot of love on this forum hasn’t he.
It’s interesting comparing to some players of similar experience in terms of games played that have l had a few bigger games but attract more negative labels
Joyce is not competing with these guys for a game they are all midfield or smaller player Joyce was a KPP he should have played at a KPF he did that sometimes at Sandy and did quite well
D.B.Cooper wrote: ↑Sat 27 Aug 2022 11:06am
I wonder why he wasn’t tried on a wing or midfield in the VFL.
Good running capacity and agile.
Great athletically but always looked a step behind in reacting as a key back.
Hopefully he plays VFL and potentially gets another crack at the top level.
One has to imagine that he’d be too far behind in the pecking order
I mean guys like Bytel, Connolly, Byrnes, Long etc can’t consistently get games despite pushing into the middle/centre/up the ground… Dunstan was cut last year as not up to it
Joyce isn’t exactly going to be a step up on any of those.
He’s really garnered a lot of love on this forum hasn’t he.
It’s interesting comparing to some players of similar experience in terms of games played that have l had a few bigger games but attract more negative labels
Joyce is not competing with these guys for a game they are all midfield or smaller player Joyce was a KPP he should have played at a KPF he did that sometimes at Sandy and did quite well
Yes that’s my point in response to why he wasn’t tried as a mid
D.B.Cooper wrote: ↑Sat 27 Aug 2022 11:06am
I wonder why he wasn’t tried on a wing or midfield in the VFL.
Good running capacity and agile.
Great athletically but always looked a step behind in reacting as a key back.
Hopefully he plays VFL and potentially gets another crack at the top level.
One has to imagine that he’d be too far behind in the pecking order
I mean guys like Bytel, Connolly, Byrnes, Long etc can’t consistently get games despite pushing into the middle/centre/up the ground… Dunstan was cut last year as not up to it
Joyce isn’t exactly going to be a step up on any of those.
He’s really garnered a lot of love on this forum hasn’t he.
It’s interesting comparing to some players of similar experience in terms of games played that have l had a few bigger games but attract more negative labels
Joyce is not competing with these guys for a game they are all midfield or smaller player Joyce was a KPP he should have played at a KPF he did that sometimes at Sandy and did quite well
Well we were crying out for another key position forward all season. Bombing it to Max King with three guys hanging off him. The powers that be can’t have thought much of him
B.M wrote: ↑Mon 16 Jan 2023 8:54pm
Cordy is bog average
And his current condition is terrible
Yes think that’s been posted as nauseum
So let’s hope he’s a Joyce upgrade …
FWIW according to Dog fans Cordy was never a gun runner and Dogs haven’t placed the running emphasis others have
