Trade - Draft Discussion

[Impatient Sainter]

SAINTS MAY USE FOUR PICKS​
While a number of clubs only have – or are only planning to use – two picks in this year’s draft, other sides are considering making up to four selections.

St Kilda is one club which could come away with a more sizeable draft haul than most, given it holds picks 9, 28, 32 and 47.

Even if the Saints use all four selections, they would still be left with two open list spots to use during the pre-season supplementary selection period or next year’s mid-season draft.

While there are question marks over the depth of this year’s draft, some clubs believe there could still be players they like available in the 40s.

The Saints have been linked to their Next Generation Academy prospect Cameron Mackenzie at pick 9 and are also believed to have some interest in West Australian key defender Jedd Busslinger.

A player like explosive Gippsland Power midfielder-forward Bailey Humphrey would also be a nice fit for St Kilda.

However, Humphrey is expected to already be off the board by pick 9, given he has some strong interest from Hawthorn (pick 6).

The Saints were thrilled with their draft haul last year and believe another good draft could help set them up for success under new coach Ross Lyon.


https://www.heraldsun.com.au/sport/afl/ ... a9ec6101d8

[saynta]

Adelaide 
Max Michalanney (pick 24, Dogs bid)

Brisbane
Will Ashcroft (pick 1, GWS bid), Jaspa Fletcher (pick 17, Coll bid)

Carlton
Jedd Busslinger (pick 11), Kaleb Smith (pick 32) 

Collingwood
Henry Hustwaite (pick 18), Coby Burgiel (pick 28), Harry Barnett (pick 30)

Essendon 
Mattaes Phillipou (pick 5), Alwyn Davey (pick 23, Dogs bid)

Fremantle
Jason Gillbee (pick 33)

Geelong
Jhye Clark (pick 8)

Gold Coast 
Bailey Humphrey (pick 6)

GWS
Aaron Cadman (pick 2), Brayden George (pick 16), Elijah Hewett (pick 20), Charlie Clarke (pick 21), Harry Rowston (pick 34)

Hawthorn
Elijah Tsatas (pick 7), Olli Hotton (pick 27)

Melbourne
Sam Gilbey (pick 37)

North Melbourne
George Wardlaw (pick 3), Harry Sheezel (pick 4)

Port Adelaide
Harry Lemmey (pick 36)

Richmond
No picks

St Kilda
Cam Mackenzie (pick 10), Isaac Keeler (pick 31), Harvey Gallagher (pick 35)

Sydney 
Josh Weddle (pick 15), Lachie Cowan (pick 19)

West Coast
Reuben Ginbey (pick 9), Ed Allan (pick 13), Lewis Hayes (pick 22), Darcy Jones (pick 29)

Western Bulldogs 
Ollie Hollands (pick 12), Jacob Konstanty (pick 25)

 

[bobmurray]

I read today that the Saints have invited Liam Stocker to train with them and they are also talking to Jack Madgen, a 192 cm defender, about a role at the Saints.

Are these the type of players we need, i wouldn't have thought so, seems like the review's broom hasn't swept out pointless recruiting.

[Saints58]

Agreed why would we look at another 192cm guy we have we have over 6 players 191-193cm what we do need is a big defender of at least 197cm who can play on the big forwards we get monstered with these mid size KPDs.
Someone like a jarred Brander 197cm 95kg Zach Sproule 198cm 94kg just 2 players who might be better and who are free to pick up!

[Saintmike65]

Agreed why would we look at another 192cm guy we have we have over 6 players 191-193cm what we do need is a big defender of at least 197cm who can play on the big forwards we get monstered with these mid size KPDs.
Someone like a jarred Brander 197cm 95kg Zach Sproule 198cm 94kg just 2 players who might be better and who are free to pick up!

Hold your horses..Jack Madgen would be a Sandringham listed player with an off field role at St. Kilda…a dual role and NOT a saints listed player!

[Saintmike65]

does anyone reckon we should target dow for the mid or not

I would rather Quinton Narkle as a DFA. He can play forward aswell as mid and his kicking is better.

The knock on Narkle is he’s a one way runner with an ordinary work ethic…has been given countless opportunities at Geelong.
I’d like us to take a punt on Stack, high risk I know but I really like him!

[silverhalo]

Adelaide 
Max Michalanney (pick 24, Dogs bid)

Brisbane
Will Ashcroft (pick 1, GWS bid), Jaspa Fletcher (pick 17, Coll bid)

Carlton
Jedd Busslinger (pick 11), Kaleb Smith (pick 32) 

Collingwood
Henry Hustwaite (pick 18), Coby Burgiel (pick 28), Harry Barnett (pick 30)

Essendon 
Mattaes Phillipou (pick 5), Alwyn Davey (pick 23, Dogs bid)

Fremantle
Jason Gillbee (pick 33)

Geelong
Jhye Clark (pick 8)

Gold Coast 
Bailey Humphrey (pick 6)

GWS
Aaron Cadman (pick 2), Brayden George (pick 16), Elijah Hewett (pick 20), Charlie Clarke (pick 21), Harry Rowston (pick 34)

Hawthorn
Elijah Tsatas (pick 7), Olli Hotton (pick 27)

Melbourne
Sam Gilbey (pick 37)

North Melbourne
George Wardlaw (pick 3), Harry Sheezel (pick 4)

Port Adelaide
Harry Lemmey (pick 36)

Richmond
No picks

St Kilda
Cam Mackenzie (pick 10), Isaac Keeler (pick 31), Harvey Gallagher (pick 35)

Sydney 
Josh Weddle (pick 15), Lachie Cowan (pick 19)

West Coast
Reuben Ginbey (pick 9), Ed Allan (pick 13), Lewis Hayes (pick 22), Darcy Jones (pick 29)

Western Bulldogs 
Ollie Hollands (pick 12), Jacob Konstanty (pick 25)

 

Still talk that we're looking to trade to secure a higher first round pick than our current 9 and I'm assuming it's to increase our chances of getting Mackenzie. The kid looks great but the way I see it, we are going to get a top rated mid anyway. If it's not Mackenzie, it'll be one of Phillipou, Tsatas, Humphrey or Clark based on the pundits' predictions.

Not sure it's worth it unless we really rate Cam Mackenzie THAT highly

[Saintmike65]

I hope we don’t trade our future picks..sounds like next years draft is a ripper!

[Ghost Like]

I hope we don’t trade our future picks..sounds like next years draft is a ripper!

I kind of agree but if we could tempt GWS with a swap of our future 2nd for their future 3rd and an exchange of our 2nd round draft picks in this year's draft for their 2nd round picks...it may work favourably if there are a couple of sliders, like Hewitt or similar.

[Saintmike65]

I hope we don’t trade our future picks..sounds like next years draft is a ripper!

I kind of agree but if we could tempt GWS with a swap of our future 2nd for their future 3rd and an exchange of our 2nd round draft picks in this year's draft for their 2nd round picks...it may work favourably if there are a couple of sliders, like Hewitt or similar.

It would be nice to get one of GWS picks in the teens.

[saintsRrising]

Still talk that we're looking to trade to secure a higher first round pick than our current 9 and I'm assuming it's to increase our chances of getting Mackenzie. The kid looks great but the way I see it, we are going to get a top rated mid anyway. If it's not Mackenzie, it'll be one of Phillipou, Tsatas, Humphrey or Clark based on the pundits' predictions.

The problem though is if WCE do not call out Reuben Ginbey at pick 9. They will not call out Busslinger that early.

So if they do not call out Reuben Ginbey's name, then we are screwed as all the good mids will then be gone before our pick.
So instead of a second tier quality mid, we get first choice of the third tier mids.

The 'pundits" believe that WCE will go for Ginbey because he is a local boy, and so no " go home" risk. But it guarantees them taking a hit in quality. If they go for best available instead, then we miss the better mids.

[Impatient Sainter]

The Fox Footy have declared our interest in Van Es and Hewett -

"The Bombers have been linked to WA on-baller Elijah Hewett, who’s also been linked to St Kilda. Although it’s been suggested the Saints will target a key-position player with one of their second-rounders, with GWV Rebels backman James Van Es linked to the club."

[banger74]

i reckon if we can get any mid like tsatts, phillpou,mackenzie or clark that would be a win and i think we should try get 198 cm Isaac keeler with pick 28 and then with pick 35 try get a ruck like 206cm Max Knobles who could develope

[bobmurray]

Agreed why would we look at another 192cm guy we have we have over 6 players 191-193cm what we do need is a big defender of at least 197cm who can play on the big forwards we get monstered with these mid size KPDs.
Someone like a jarred Brander 197cm 95kg Zach Sproule 198cm 94kg just 2 players who might be better and who are free to pick up!

Hold your horses..Jack Madgen would be a Sandringham listed player with an off field role at St. Kilda…a dual role and NOT a saints listed player!

Madgen has gone to the SANFL, i wonder if Banger had anything to do with trying to get him to Sandy/Saints.

[skeptic]

And there goes Cam McKenzie to Hawthorn

[DJ Higgins]

Here comes Phillipou

[CURLY]

And there goes Cam McKenzie to Hawthorn

Watching Brisbane get Ashcroft for a pile of goat s*** picks while we miss an Academy pick is magnificent.

[Ghost Like]

And there goes Cam McKenzie to Hawthorn

Watching Brisbane get Ashcroft for a pile of goat s*** picks while we miss an Academy pick is magnificent.

& the Premiers getting their target pick.

[skeptic]

Ginben is gone

Phillipou… C’MON

[SaintPav]

Seems fair.

[skeptic]

Ginben is gone

Phillipou… C’MON

Wooooh

[CURLY]

A lot of kids from Oakleigh and Sandy. $$$$$

[saynta]

A lot of kids from Oakleigh and Sandy. $$$$$

And Ashburton were I grew up and played under age footy.

Good part of the world.

[CURLY]

A lot of kids from Oakleigh and Sandy. $$$$$

And Ashburton were I grew up and played under age footy.

Good part of the world.

Oakleigh Charges and Sandy Dragons

[Saints58]

A lot of kids from Oakleigh and Sandy. $$$$$

And Ashburton were I grew up and played under age footy.

Good part of the world.

Really I might have played against you being from Ashwood and playing for Burwood Ashburton were a very rough side especially after they combined with Jordy juniors.