Draft Target

This unofficial St Kilda Saints fan forum is for people of all ages to chat Saints Footy and all posts must be respectful.

Moderators: Saintsational Administrators, Saintsational Moderators

User avatar
skeptic
Saintsational Legend
Posts: 17053
Joined: Wed 10 Mar 2004 7:10pm
Has thanked: 3664 times
Been thanked: 2927 times

Re: Draft Target

Post: # 1988610Post skeptic »

silverhalo wrote: Thu 24 Nov 2022 6:48pm
Sanctorum wrote: Thu 24 Nov 2022 11:03am I'd be very happy if they pick up Elijah Hewett, has that x-factor about him, don't mind him fancying himself, shouldn't every player? Buddy Franklin fancied himself as a kid but let his footy do the talking, reckon Hewett is in the same mould.

Fact is that in the 2021 draft, only 4 players, including Marcus Windhager at pick 47, played 18 or more games in their first season. The "pre-draft order" as such is not always right, it's like a blind date, you're never guaranteed to end up with a hot blond/hunk!
I'd be more than happy if we picked up Hewitt, his highlight reel shows off his power, speed and tenacity - saw him interviewed and he has an old head on young shoulders, very mature and VERY driven to succeed. You're half way there with those qualities...
I must have watched a different reel (respectfully). What’s the one you saw?


Foz
Club Player
Posts: 233
Joined: Sun 15 Feb 2009 1:57pm

Re: Draft Target

Post: # 1988627Post Foz »

Josh Weddle is a big chance for our 2nd pick - we are trying to package up picks to get higher as Josh may go high teens range. Roughy a big fan - this came from his dad. Saints have interviewed Josh many times. Essendon and Dogs also keen.


User avatar
saintsRrising
Saintsational Legend
Posts: 30098
Joined: Mon 15 Mar 2004 11:07am
Location: Melbourne
Has thanked: 711 times
Been thanked: 1235 times

Re: Draft Target

Post: # 1988629Post saintsRrising »

Foz wrote: Thu 24 Nov 2022 9:43pm Josh Weddle is a big chance for our 2nd pick - we are trying to package up picks to get higher as Josh may go high teens range. Roughy a big fan - this came from his dad. Saints have interviewed Josh many times. Essendon and Dogs also keen.

So is he really a 192cm defender?


Flying the World in comfort thanks to FF Points....
User avatar
Impatient Sainter
Saintsational Legend
Posts: 4089
Joined: Tue 05 Apr 2016 3:30pm
Has thanked: 2622 times
Been thanked: 1078 times

Re: Draft Target

Post: # 1988632Post Impatient Sainter »

Foz wrote: Thu 24 Nov 2022 9:43pm Josh Weddle is a big chance for our 2nd pick - we are trying to package up picks to get higher as Josh may go high teens range. Roughy a big fan - this came from his dad. Saints have interviewed Josh many times. Essendon and Dogs also keen.
Be an interesting selection given the amount of similiar sized defenders we have. Surely other defenders like Phllips or Van Es who can play the full back role are .ore suitable?


Banger9798
SS Life Member
Posts: 2787
Joined: Sun 25 Apr 2021 9:43pm
Has thanked: 707 times
Been thanked: 784 times

Re: Draft Target

Post: # 1988633Post Banger9798 »

NWM wasn't a surprise at 10
Clark and Coffield expected at 7 and 8
Billings was considered by most as a top 3
Gresham at 15 (or whatever it was) was expected range.
Acres was considered the right player for his pick.

But not sure where the hyperbole over first round picks comes from? Seems a bit overstated
Ben Long was a bit early at 25
McCartin the obvious mistake, but most had him going top 3

The bigger mistake was a while back trading first round picks for two later picks in the hope it works out:The Spencer White Syndrome


The Artist formerly known as Fugazi
bangaulegend
SS Hall of Fame
Posts: 2490
Joined: Mon 19 Mar 2012 8:54pm
Has thanked: 140 times
Been thanked: 546 times

Re: Draft Target

Post: # 1988636Post bangaulegend »

saintsRrising wrote: Thu 24 Nov 2022 1:20pm I think WCE might hope to get him with their third pick (20).
Hearing similar on the grape vine West Coast not using either of their first 2 picks on Hewett hoping for him to slide to pick 20. That may change if Ginbey goes before their pick at 9 . Interesting times ahead :wink:


User avatar
skeptic
Saintsational Legend
Posts: 17053
Joined: Wed 10 Mar 2004 7:10pm
Has thanked: 3664 times
Been thanked: 2927 times

Re: Draft Target

Post: # 1988639Post skeptic »

Banger9798 wrote: Thu 24 Nov 2022 10:10pm NWM wasn't a surprise at 10
Clark and Coffield expected at 7 and 8
Billings was considered by most as a top 3
Gresham at 15 (or whatever it was) was expected range.
Acres was considered the right player for his pick.

But not sure where the hyperbole over first round picks comes from? Seems a bit overstated
Ben Long was a bit early at 25
McCartin the obvious mistake, but most had him going top 3

The bigger mistake was a while back trading first round picks for two later picks in the hope it works out:The Spencer White Syndrome
Long memories I think.

Brad Howard at our second round like a decade ago has stuck.

Then there was 1 or 2 3rd rounders that people thought wouldn’t be drafted at all.


Vortex
Saintsational Legend
Posts: 6473
Joined: Fri 18 Sep 2020 6:51am
Has thanked: 862 times
Been thanked: 1025 times

Re: Draft Target

Post: # 1988641Post Vortex »

B.M wrote: Thu 24 Nov 2022 5:12pm For once

Just select the player we should select

Recruiting dickheads trying to outsmart themselves to look a hero. It gives me the s***s!

We do another ‘McCartin’ and it will set us back - again!!!


You MUST nail first round picks!!!!
Share the love....Billings, Hunter and Coff have also been very underwhelming selections in terms of players cable of being in a premiership side....ironically Paddy is the only player who has come the closest to proving himself as a premiership player.


Saintmike65
Club Player
Posts: 921
Joined: Sat 24 Oct 2020 10:22am
Has thanked: 217 times
Been thanked: 906 times

Re: Draft Target

Post: # 1988644Post Saintmike65 »

It’s a bit of a beat up surely…Yes, Ross did interview Hewitt but I dare say he and the recruiting team would interview a lot of players.
We may try to get a pick in the teens to try & snare a slider.


wally
Club Player
Posts: 826
Joined: Fri 16 Sep 2011 8:23am
Location: brisy
Has thanked: 5 times
Been thanked: 103 times

Re: Draft Target

Post: # 1988649Post wally »

As I say every year at this time avoid the interstaters and take a Victorian / local.
Eliminate the go home factor at least.
I near spewed up with all the speculation about NWM wanting to go home and hope it doesn’t happen but clearly both SA teams had nothing
to trade left but I bet Adelaide are in his families ears all year until he resigns .


wally
Club Player
Posts: 826
Joined: Fri 16 Sep 2011 8:23am
Location: brisy
Has thanked: 5 times
Been thanked: 103 times

Re: Draft Target

Post: # 1988650Post wally »

That was supposed to read re-signs contract with us


User avatar
D.B.Cooper
SS Hall of Fame
Posts: 2214
Joined: Sun 24 Oct 2021 5:50pm
Has thanked: 793 times
Been thanked: 757 times

Re: Draft Target

Post: # 1988655Post D.B.Cooper »

ace wrote: Thu 24 Nov 2022 5:05pm This close to the draft most Phantom drafts know who the clubs are targetting.
The HUN phantom draft has St Kilda taking Busslinger from W.A. at 10, overlooking MacKenzie who goes to West Coast at 14.
I also read this.

And it 2025 we'll swap Busslinger and our first rounder to WC for MacKenzie :lol:

Busslinger looks very good, but he's 196cm and 82kg (wringing wet).
By the time he's ready to be a senior key defender in 3-5 years what is the chance he's done a Jamie Cripps?

I know take the best rated available but if there is not much in it a local kid makes much more sense.


There's only one rule in the jungle! When the LYON's hungry, he eats!
User avatar
Impatient Sainter
Saintsational Legend
Posts: 4089
Joined: Tue 05 Apr 2016 3:30pm
Has thanked: 2622 times
Been thanked: 1078 times

Re: Draft Target

Post: # 1988656Post Impatient Sainter »

Dont want Busslinger IMO he is completely over rated. McKenzie or another vaailable midfielder - Humphrey, Ginbey, Tsatas or Hollands would be my preference.


Saints58
Club Player
Posts: 731
Joined: Tue 13 Oct 2020 9:25pm
Has thanked: 534 times
Been thanked: 123 times

Re: Draft Target

Post: # 1988666Post Saints58 »

With our first 2 picks we should draft 2 mids and the last 2 with should get 1 KPP and a ruckman.
If we use 3 picks 2 mids and 1 KPP with 1 pick in the rookie draft a ruckman.
We lost 3 bigs last season in Ryder, Leinert who should still be on the list and Joyce with only Cordy as a replacement.
We didn't have a abidance of bigs anyway so we need to have back up if Hayes and Sharman do not pan out jury still out on them.


older saint
SS Life Member
Posts: 3385
Joined: Wed 12 Sep 2007 5:30pm
Has thanked: 172 times
Been thanked: 519 times

Re: Draft Target

Post: # 1988667Post older saint »

Seen Knobel's boy linked to us with a late pick


DJ Higgins
Club Player
Posts: 1876
Joined: Fri 28 Oct 2016 11:59pm
Has thanked: 54 times
Been thanked: 269 times

Re: Draft Target

Post: # 1988689Post DJ Higgins »

James Van Es is the defender we want. If we can get him with pick 47 (or whatever it will be by then) then we have done well. He will take years to come good but plan for the future plus well worth the risk.


Saintmike65
Club Player
Posts: 921
Joined: Sat 24 Oct 2020 10:22am
Has thanked: 217 times
Been thanked: 906 times

Re: Draft Target

Post: # 1988691Post Saintmike65 »

DJ Higgins wrote: Fri 25 Nov 2022 4:20pm James Van Es is the defender we want. If we can get him with pick 47 (or whatever it will be by then) then we have done well. He will take years to come good but plan for the future plus well worth the risk.
Doubt it would take years for Van Es to make it..he’s already 99kg’s @ 18 years old!!


Saints58
Club Player
Posts: 731
Joined: Tue 13 Oct 2020 9:25pm
Has thanked: 534 times
Been thanked: 123 times

Re: Draft Target

Post: # 1988694Post Saints58 »

wally wrote: Fri 25 Nov 2022 8:17am As I say every year at this time avoid the interstaters and take a Victorian / local.
Eliminate the go home factor at least.
I near spewed up with all the speculation about NWM wanting to go home and hope it doesn’t happen but clearly both SA teams had nothing
to trade left but I bet Adelaide are in his families ears all year until he resigns .
You could use the same analogy for Ben King with the go home factor and the team he followed as a kid and having Max here at the saints but I bet he will not leave GC.
Don't get me wrong I would love to have him and I really think now is the time when GC have coverage for him and he will struggle to get back in the side when he comes back also his contract is almost up so we should make him our priority next year.
Otherwise forget it if he signs a long term contract we will not have much chance to lure him south.


B.M
Saintsational Legend
Posts: 12768
Joined: Thu 04 Jul 2019 8:53pm
Has thanked: 5 times
Been thanked: 2721 times

Re: Draft Target

Post: # 1988703Post B.M »

If there was a ‘Ben King’ available you’d pick him regardless of where he was from… same with a Connor Rozee.

But as I see it, there’s about 6 kids all about level from pick 5-13

My view is that if it’s hard to seperate them… go the local.

My pick is definitely McKenzie

Think Tsatsas, Phillipou and Clarke will be gone

Ginbey I would take if McKenzie was also gone

In the hope that Tsatsas or Phillipou were available at pick 10 - I’d take them

Not interested in Clarke - he’ll be at Geelong in two years anyway


User avatar
SaintPav
Saintsational Legend
Posts: 19161
Joined: Wed 16 Jun 2010 9:24pm
Location: Alma Road
Has thanked: 1609 times
Been thanked: 2031 times

Re: Draft Target

Post: # 1988704Post SaintPav »

Local boys only please.

No Western Australians at least.


Holder of unacceptable views and other thought crimes.
User avatar
D.B.Cooper
SS Hall of Fame
Posts: 2214
Joined: Sun 24 Oct 2021 5:50pm
Has thanked: 793 times
Been thanked: 757 times

Re: Draft Target

Post: # 1988708Post D.B.Cooper »

B.M wrote: Fri 25 Nov 2022 6:17pm If there was a ‘Ben King’ available you’d pick him regardless of where he was from… same with a Connor Rozee.

But as I see it, there’s about 6 kids all about level from pick 5-13

My view is that if it’s hard to seperate them… go the local.

My pick is definitely McKenzie

Think Tsatsas, Phillipou and Clarke will be gone

Ginbey I would take if McKenzie was also gone

In the hope that Tsatsas or Phillipou were available at pick 10 - I’d take them

Not interested in Clarke - he’ll be at Geelong in two years anyway
MacKenzie is top 10 rated by pretty much every draft pundit.
He's a local and an academy player.
Seems a very safe bet.
If a highly rated players slide, OK, I just hope common sense prevails when we select.


There's only one rule in the jungle! When the LYON's hungry, he eats!
User avatar
groupie1
Club Player
Posts: 1275
Joined: Sun 18 Jun 2006 4:21am
Has thanked: 16 times
Been thanked: 52 times

Re: Draft Target

Post: # 1988728Post groupie1 »

If these top 10 mids in the draft are as good as it seems they are, why didn't we bring all our future draft fortunes into this draft and do the rebuild in 2 DRAFTS (last yr + this year).

Or are they not good enough to justify that?


Gordon Fode couldda been Plugga
Saintmike65
Club Player
Posts: 921
Joined: Sat 24 Oct 2020 10:22am
Has thanked: 217 times
Been thanked: 906 times

Re: Draft Target

Post: # 1988730Post Saintmike65 »

We’ll all know Monday night..Tuesday night just as important with our 2nd & 3rd picks in particular


User avatar
SaintPav
Saintsational Legend
Posts: 19161
Joined: Wed 16 Jun 2010 9:24pm
Location: Alma Road
Has thanked: 1609 times
Been thanked: 2031 times

Re: Draft Target

Post: # 1988744Post SaintPav »

Draft over two nights again!!

Why don’t they just have a night for each pick. There’s just enough time before round 1.

Idiots.

I wish they would stop this opportunistic nonsense.


Holder of unacceptable views and other thought crimes.
Saintmike65
Club Player
Posts: 921
Joined: Sat 24 Oct 2020 10:22am
Has thanked: 217 times
Been thanked: 906 times

Re: Draft Target

Post: # 1988751Post Saintmike65 »

D.B.Cooper wrote: Fri 25 Nov 2022 6:29pm
B.M wrote: Fri 25 Nov 2022 6:17pm If there was a ‘Ben King’ available you’d pick him regardless of where he was from… same with a Connor Rozee.

But as I see it, there’s about 6 kids all about level from pick 5-13

My view is that if it’s hard to seperate them… go the local.

My pick is definitely McKenzie

Think Tsatsas, Phillipou and Clarke will be gone

Ginbey I would take if McKenzie was also gone

In the hope that Tsatsas or Phillipou were available at pick 10 - I’d take them

Not interested in Clarke - he’ll be at Geelong in two years anyway
MacKenzie is top 10 rated by pretty much every draft pundit.
He's a local and an academy player.
Seems a very safe bet.
If a highly rated players slide, OK, I just hope common sense prevails when we select.
If McKenzie is available at our pick he WILL be taken by us.


Post Reply