Fair is foul and Foul is fairYorkeys wrote: ↑Wed 19 Oct 2022 12:33pm "How is Ross presented Macbeth?
He acts as a messenger repeatedly, delivering the news of treachery, announcing a promotion, reporting that a family has been slaughtered, and finally telling of death in battle."
Double, double toil and trouble;
Fire burn and caldron bubble.
Something ??? this way comes
?what is actually now foretold?
Welcome Ross Lyon
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Re: Welcome Ross Lyon
Tom Browne has said that the deal is just about done.
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Tom Browne is headliner media whore.
Holder of unacceptable views and other thought crimes.
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Re: Welcome Ross Lyon
signed or not
I have no respect for the Person
Once again it seems a desperate act by the club
RL needs to fess up bout how much money he has pilfered from the club this time
I have no respect for the Person
Once again it seems a desperate act by the club
RL needs to fess up bout how much money he has pilfered from the club this time
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This feels more like a coup than process.
Think of me long enough to make a memory.
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This is terrible news.
Ross will become fixated on some VFL standard player like Zack Dawson or Andrew Mcqualter and continually play them week after week costing us games.
When has a coach ever left a team and then returned later to win flag(s) , in the last 30 years?
His brutal , harsh regime will slowly suck the life out of the players.
I will also add, it is strange he comes back when the last player he coached, Geary, has resigned
He has waited until they were all gone. And now returns to unleash torture on a new generation of players and fans.
Heed my words!!
/Old man waving stick
Ross will become fixated on some VFL standard player like Zack Dawson or Andrew Mcqualter and continually play them week after week costing us games.
When has a coach ever left a team and then returned later to win flag(s) , in the last 30 years?
His brutal , harsh regime will slowly suck the life out of the players.
I will also add, it is strange he comes back when the last player he coached, Geary, has resigned
He has waited until they were all gone. And now returns to unleash torture on a new generation of players and fans.
Heed my words!!
/Old man waving stick
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ralphsmith wrote: ↑Wed 19 Oct 2022 6:55pm This is terrible news.
Ross will become fixated on some VFL standard player like Zack Dawson or Andrew Mcqualter and continually play them week after week costing us games.
When has a coach ever left a team and then returned later to win flag(s) , in the last 30 years?
His brutal , harsh regime will slowly suck the life out of the players.
I will also add, it is strange he comes back when the last player he coached, Geary, has resigned
He has waited until they were all gone. And now returns to unleash torture on a new generation of players and fans.
Heed my words!!
/Old man waving stick
This seems a common argument from those against the potential signing of RL.
In terms of statistics I'm not sure there is a large enough sample for it to be relevant, especially when you consider
1. Lots of coaches win more than 1 if they do and almost always in the same tenure.
2. 1 in 16+ win a flag each year.
Disclaimer: posts are my views and shouldn't be taken as fact, even if I am in fact right.
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Re: Welcome Ross Lyon
Like Richo did with Luke Dunstan?ralphsmith wrote: ↑Wed 19 Oct 2022 6:55pm This is terrible news.
Ross will become fixated on some VFL standard player like Zack Dawson or Andrew Mcqualter and continually play them week after week costing us games.
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You'll be wrong.ralphsmith wrote: ↑Wed 19 Oct 2022 6:55pm This is terrible news.
Ross will become fixated on some VFL standard player like Zack Dawson or Andrew Mcqualter and continually play them week after week costing us games.
When has a coach ever left a team and then returned later to win flag(s) , in the last 30 years?
His brutal , harsh regime will slowly suck the life out of the players.
I will also add, it is strange he comes back when the last player he coached, Geary, has resigned
He has waited until they were all gone. And now returns to unleash torture on a new generation of players and fans.
Heed my words!!
/Old man waving stick
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Tom Browne is a dead set potato peeler.
He peels the potatoes thinking they are going to be three times cooked gourmet thick cut chips with a crispy outer fawned upon by the culinary elite… but really at the end of the day he is just peeling a potato.
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David Parkin, 1995ralphsmith wrote: ↑Wed 19 Oct 2022 6:55pm When has a coach ever left a team and then returned later to win flag(s) , in the last 30 years?
Another interesting stat is since 2003, Mick Malthouse is the only coach to win a flag at his second (or later) club as senior coach.
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Re: Welcome Ross Lyon
This isn't Ross's third gig.
He never left St Kilda.
2012-2022 is just a bad dream.
He never left St Kilda.
2012-2022 is just a bad dream.
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AR/BR have never been past a prelimsamoht wrote: ↑Wed 19 Oct 2022 3:48pmWill he (improve our performance over time, year after year)?
How can you be so sure?
I mean, the evidence shows we could go forwards and then backwards, as the players adjust to his "structure" ... as was the case at St Kilda first time around and then Freo (where he ended up with a 30% W/L last 4 years and was happily shown the door)?
AR and BR had a 50% W/L with us being an average team ... and they both had bad luck with injuries. That wasn't good enough for us.
RL better set the world on fire ... the way he is being feted. This site will go into melt down, if he doesn't.
Lyons done it 4 times at 2 clubs been in 5 prelims
What a silly comparison
I get you’re all sooked up about it but facts he has runs on the board
After 11 years of mediocrity abd your still talking Richo and Ratten???
And why does Lyon have to set the world on fire???
And who cares if we go backwards to go forwards??
Have you ever considered he hadn’t been brought and measured just on winning a flag??
The clubs standard (and performance culture) are at rock bottom after 11 years of irrelevance
Lyon (premiership or not) will change that , he’ll demand it
No more “yeah nah me and the players had another heart to heart ..” **** sake how many of those did we hear about under Ratten??
I think Joffa (miss joff on here nowadays) said it best on BF
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Solidly believe that a list makes a coach. I think that if Ross can get the most out of this list we are a genuine finals team. He is not going to take us from 10th to a premiership next year. He is not the messiah, I think most of us understand that, and can understand reservations.
I feel he can get more out of the list while we try to attract or draft the top end talent. I think I am mainly happy that the club has taken decisive action and will change up the club.
We are all sick of being an irrelevant also ran. Will this guarantee success? Can't tell, but doing what we had done guaranteed irrelevance I feel.
Anyway lets see.
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I don’t think you can count the draw as getting past a prelim twiceTeflon wrote: ↑Wed 19 Oct 2022 9:42pmAR/BR have never been past a prelimsamoht wrote: ↑Wed 19 Oct 2022 3:48pmWill he (improve our performance over time, year after year)?
How can you be so sure?
I mean, the evidence shows we could go forwards and then backwards, as the players adjust to his "structure" ... as was the case at St Kilda first time around and then Freo (where he ended up with a 30% W/L last 4 years and was happily shown the door)?
AR and BR had a 50% W/L with us being an average team ... and they both had bad luck with injuries. That wasn't good enough for us.
RL better set the world on fire ... the way he is being feted. This site will go into melt down, if he doesn't.
Lyons done it 4 times at 2 clubs been in 5 prelims
What a silly comparison
I get you’re all sooked up about it but facts he has runs on the board
After 11 years of mediocrity abd your still talking Richo and Ratten???
And why does Lyon have to set the world on fire???
And who cares if we go backwards to go forwards??
Have you ever considered he hadn’t been brought and measured just on winning a flag??
The clubs standard (and performance culture) are at rock bottom after 11 years of irrelevance
Lyon (premiership or not) will change that , he’ll demand it
No more “yeah nah me and the players had another heart to heart ..” **** sake how many of those did we hear about under Ratten??
I think Joffa (miss joff on here nowadays) said it best on BF
**€*******€
Solidly believe that a list makes a coach. I think that if Ross can get the most out of this list we are a genuine finals team. He is not going to take us from 10th to a premiership next year. He is not the messiah, I think most of us understand that, and can understand reservations.
I feel he can get more out of the list while we try to attract or draft the top end talent. I think I am mainly happy that the club has taken decisive action and will change up the club.
We are all sick of being an irrelevant also ran. Will this guarantee success? Can't tell, but doing what we had done guaranteed irrelevance I feel.
Anyway lets see.