cps wrote: ↑Sun 16 Oct 2022 5:55pm
Sanctorum wrote: ↑Sun 16 Oct 2022 3:21pm
So the $64 million question is, has Ross Lyon learnt from these experiences??? His overall arrogant nature suggests he is incapable of changing his autocratic style, which I'm quite sure was a major factor when Fremantle decided to give him the boot, especially as in the last 4 years of his stint he achieved a very poor 33.475% win loss record with the Dockers.
It is that last stat that I hope the powers that be at Moorabbin ask him to explain in full if it gets to the point where he is given serious consideration for the top job, because in his first 4 years there he achieved a very impressive 70.1% before falling off the cliff.
I'm with you on this question. I posted a related question asking why Ross was sacked by Fremantle on the Opposition Forum and no-one really seemed able to answer it fully. "loris" posted the following:
He said Lyon’s message to some players were falling on deaf ears, development wasn’t there. also there had been a revolving door of assistant coaches over his time. He said the Board had to stop the rot. He reckons Lyon unless he has changed his manner & personality & methods considerably he only has a life span as a coach of 5-6 years before things go pear shaped.
The obvious question is why was the message falling on deaf ears?
Let’s unravel the mystery
So he’s coached 2012-2019
Made finals 1st year 2012
Improved in 2013 making finals and top 4 (second time in clubs history) making the GF losing by 15pts to Hawks
Made finals again the following year 2014
Coached Freo to 1st ever Minor Premiership in 2015 winning 12 of first 13 games
Freo achieved an avg 33.4% W/L percentage in Lyons last 4 years by this stage the side was transitioning younger players through
In Lyons final season the team won more games than 2018 missing 7-8 players from their starting best 22 including; Hogan, Lobb, Taberner up forward, Pearce, Wilson, Ryan down back
In his final years he brought through youth including key current stare such as Serong and Brayshaw.
Nick Riewoldts take on Lyons Freo departure?? (he’d know nothing..)
“I think the facts would say that it’s the wrong call — and because I’ve been coached by him,” he said on Fox Footy.
“When you look at the form this year, I don’t think they’ve underachieved. I think they’ve done pretty well with a really difficult situation. I don’t understand that (sacking him). It feels like there’s been a bit of an agenda over there this year.
On Lyons ability to adapt his style of coaching??
The long-time Saints captain also argued that Lyon has changed his ways in recent years, becoming a more modern coach.
“I think he’s smart. He understands that he’s had to adapt,” he said.
“The way he’s coached at Fremantle, and I speak to Ross regularly, it’s not the same way he coached at St Kilda. Because the game has changed, the players have changed, the expectations on the way you interact with the coach and the way you are held accountable.
“That landscape has changed for all clubs and for all coaches, not just Ross.”
On Lyons so called only likes dealing with gun players Riewoldt said :
Riewoldt also moved to rebuke the argument that many players don’t like playing under Lyon because he favours the best of the group.
Instead he suggested players who don’t try their hardest, or “softies” as he put it, are the ones that struggle under him.
“I know the external perception of Rossy is it’s only the top 25 players that he likes, and he only likes the stars, he only likes the guns. That’s not true at all,” he said.
“Rossy loves the blokes that have a crack. So on our list at the time it was players like Rob Eddy and Andrew McQualter, they’re Rossy’s disciples because he valued and he put a high premium on blokes that had it.
“The guys that Rossy grated on were the softies or the ones that didn’t necessarily work hard all the time and got challenged and didn’t like it. They’re the ones in my experience that haven’t gelled with Rossy.”
Anyway won’t change the haters narrative they’ll write it off that Nicks just a love struck fool!
( God help me)
