Bowes

[Rubyjo]

Geelong are very smart with their sales pitch and recruiting. Matt Rendell was saying on Trade Radio the other day that only 4 out of their current list are city boys. They have purposely gone for the country lads and sold the dream of being away from the big city, here's a farm, here's the surf etc etc. Hard to sell Moorabbin in the same way I would imagine.

Maybe true but they do have a salary cap as well

Not every one can surf the bells bowl. Thats a fact..

[SaintJohno]

Geelong are very smart with their sales pitch and recruiting. Matt Rendell was saying on Trade Radio the other day that only 4 out of their current list are city boys. They have purposely gone for the country lads and sold the dream of being away from the big city, here's a farm, here's the surf etc etc. Hard to sell Moorabbin in the same way I would imagine.

Maybe true but they do have a salary cap as well

Yep, there was talk recently that Hawkins was on as little as $300K because he wanted to play with the cats only and knew the cap constraints and just wanted success. Not sure Brad Hill would do the same, or Billings, or ......

[Teflon]

I cannot believe how much people undervalue Bowes, he is a good player with strong skills ready to break out imo
I think he is a mid as well

His current club doesn't rate him too highly, willing to part company with him and pick 7. Expendable.
Comes with an $850k price tag. Halve that and a fair deal ?
We need more half backs, yes. Or no, not really.
Interesting Nick R doesn't think the price tag is much of an issue, or how Bowes would be utilised and how his salary would sit with the playing group, just sees the precious draft pick?
Watch this space, eh.

Gold Coast gave a history of undervaluing certain players only to see them do well elsewhere (sounds familiar..)
Bowes + 7 is a no brainer
IF we could keep 9 add 7 and add Bowes you have 2 gun mids to come and a very handy player still to peak alongside Windhager etc ….mini reset done
Dont be dumb
So glad we missed De Goey we have $ now
There’s a reason Cats have been into Bowes for a while
Can we get him to like us???
Surely he has to know with Bruhn Oliver etc coming to Cats his midfield time will be limited
With us..skys the limit brother

So no conceivable downsides. No risk. Not too good to be true. Hope it pans out.

Apparently not
Clubs lining up to meet him

[saintsRrising]

Geelong are very smart with their sales pitch and recruiting. Matt Rendell was saying on Trade Radio the other day that only 4 out of their current list are city boys. They have purposely gone for the country lads and sold the dream of being away from the big city, here's a farm, here's the surf etc etc. Hard to sell Moorabbin in the same way I would imagine.

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Maybe true but they do have a salary cap as well

Not every one can surf the bells bowl. Thats a fact..

They do not have to. Some like Cameron love their fishing.

There is more than surfing to do down that way.

[Sainter_Dad]

Geelong are very smart with their sales pitch and recruiting. Matt Rendell was saying on Trade Radio the other day that only 4 out of their current list are city boys. They have purposely gone for the country lads and sold the dream of being away from the big city, here's a farm, here's the surf etc etc. Hard to sell Moorabbin in the same way I would imagine.

Maybe true but they do have a salary cap as well

Yep, there was talk recently that Hawkins was on as little as $300K because he wanted to play with the cats only and knew the cap constraints and just wanted success.

And just maybe .... there is a pub awaiting or .... or well - Geelong is a 'Special' place

[SaintJohno]

Geelong are very smart with their sales pitch and recruiting. Matt Rendell was saying on Trade Radio the other day that only 4 out of their current list are city boys. They have purposely gone for the country lads and sold the dream of being away from the big city, here's a farm, here's the surf etc etc. Hard to sell Moorabbin in the same way I would imagine.

Maybe true but they do have a salary cap as well

Yep, there was talk recently that Hawkins was on as little as $300K because he wanted to play with the cats only and knew the cap constraints and just wanted success.

And just maybe .... there is a pub awaiting or .... or well - Geelong is a 'Special' place

Quite possibly. If that's the case we should be doing it too.

[Yorkeys]

Bowes is from FNQ. How are the Cats going to offer Crocs, pythons, 27° water and a 10% indigenous population.

[Saint 58]

Geelong are very smart with their sales pitch and recruiting. Matt Rendell was saying on Trade Radio the other day that only 4 out of their current list are city boys. They have purposely gone for the country lads and sold the dream of being away from the big city, here's a farm, here's the surf etc etc. Hard to sell Moorabbin in the same way I would imagine.

Maybe true but they do have a salary cap as well

Yep, there was talk recently that Hawkins was on as little as $300K because he wanted to play with the cats only and knew the cap constraints and just wanted success. Not sure Brad Hill would do the same, or Billings, or ......

& there's also talk that Hawkins owns multiple Cotton On stores & pubs ... on $300,000 ??
If true then $300,000 is total BS or ... well you know

[D.B.Cooper]

Gentle persuasion from the Cats.
We are not interested in #7, we want Jack Bowes at our club because Dangerfield is a big fan and he'd look great in the hoops

Genius!

Like all other clubs I'm sure they couldn't give a hairy rats ringer about Bowes and just want #7, but they are selling it so delicately.
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Geelong superstar Patrick Dangerfield believes Cats trade target Jack Bowes would look “very good” in the blue and white hoops.

Bowes, 24, has played 78 games for Gold Coast but looks set to move clubs this off-season as part of a salary dump trade along with pick no. 7 in this year’s draft.

With Geelong considered the front-runners for the Sun’s services, Channel 7’s Mitch Cleary revealed that Dangerfield could have a big say in getting the deal across the line given how much he rates Bowes.

“I can (see him moving to Geelong),” Cleary said on AFL Trade Radio.

“I think they’ve been into Jack Bowes for a little while now, he is managed by Connors Sports management.

“They also look after Patty Dangerfield, and I’m told Patty Dangerfield is a big fan of Jack Bowes.

“There’s not many players that have the power at the negotiating table like Patty Dangerfield.

“He helped with the (Luke) Dahlhaus move, he helped with the (Josh) Jenkins move, I wouldn’t be surprised if he willed his power and got this one over the line.”

In response to Cleary’s report, Dangerfield confirmed that he is in fact a big fan of Bowes, adding that he reminds him of one of his star premiership teammates.

“I don’t know how Mitch Cleary got ahold of the information he did, but I’m a big fan,” Dangerfield said on SEN Mornings.

“I’ve watched him a heck of a lot this year, to be honest, and from previous seasons as well.

“I think he would look very, very good in the hoops.

“He’s a bit of a taller mid, but he’s also versatile, he’s a beautiful kick, he sort of reminds me a bit of Mitch Duncan in the fact that he’s really nice by foot, he’s got good poise.

“Isn’t that the beauty of sport? We were lucky enough to win it but all of the sudden now it’s, ‘How can we get better’? Because every other team is doing the same.

“That’s the beauty of the trade period I think.”

Along with Geelong, clubs that have also been linked to a Bowes move include Essendon, Hawthorn and St Kilda.

https://www.sen.com.au/news/2022/09/29/ ... get-bowes/

[groupie1]

To me

The salary price is too high just to get a top 10 draft pick.

And this absurd 'smoothing' idea to spread his salary over a longer period time, means he's actually been screwed for $$ he was owed in his first two yrs.

We don't wanna go down this path.

[D.B.Cooper]

To me

The salary price is too high just to get a top 10 draft pick.

And this absurd 'smoothing' idea to spread his salary over a longer period time, means he's actually been screwed for $$ he was owed in his first two yrs.

We don't wanna go down this path.

You raise some good points.

[Beno88]

Geelong are very smart with their sales pitch and recruiting. Matt Rendell was saying on Trade Radio the other day that only 4 out of their current list are city boys. They have purposely gone for the country lads and sold the dream of being away from the big city, here's a farm, here's the surf etc etc. Hard to sell Moorabbin in the same way I would imagine.

Geelong a more attractive location than Melbourne's Bayside suburbs? The real estate market would suggest not.

[SaintJohno]

Geelong are very smart with their sales pitch and recruiting. Matt Rendell was saying on Trade Radio the other day that only 4 out of their current list are city boys. They have purposely gone for the country lads and sold the dream of being away from the big city, here's a farm, here's the surf etc etc. Hard to sell Moorabbin in the same way I would imagine.

Geelong a more attractive location than Melbourne's Bayside suburbs? The real estate market would suggest not.

I'm sure the country boys at Geelong wouldn't give a rats about the property prices in Highett.

[Teflon]

Move on cats or hawks
Can’t believe **** Geelong win flag get all these gun kids linked
AFL is rooted
Cotton On Salary cap

[IluvHarvey]

Geelong are very smart with their sales pitch and recruiting. Matt Rendell was saying on Trade Radio the other day that only 4 out of their current list are city boys. They have purposely gone for the country lads and sold the dream of being away from the big city, here's a farm, here's the surf etc etc. Hard to sell Moorabbin in the same way I would imagine.

Maybe true but they do have a salary cap as well

Yep, there was talk recently that Hawkins was on as little as $300K because he wanted to play with the cats only and knew the cap constraints and just wanted success. Not sure Brad Hill would do the same, or Billings, or ......

& there's also talk that Hawkins owns multiple Cotton On stores & pubs ... on $300,000 ??
If true then $300,000 is total BS or ... well you know

Isn't the 300K the last year of a very heavily front loaded contract?
There was probably talk of having the last year so low so if he decided to retire he wouldn't be too much out of pocket.
Not sure there is too much under the table stuff happening but that was what was talked about.
GAJ on the other hand....

[Beno88]

Geelong are very smart with their sales pitch and recruiting. Matt Rendell was saying on Trade Radio the other day that only 4 out of their current list are city boys. They have purposely gone for the country lads and sold the dream of being away from the big city, here's a farm, here's the surf etc etc. Hard to sell Moorabbin in the same way I would imagine.

Geelong a more attractive location than Melbourne's Bayside suburbs? The real estate market would suggest not.

I'm sure the country boys at Geelong wouldn't give a rats about the property prices in Highett.

Probably not. But I'm certain it'd be easier to entice 18-30 year olds to move Bayside than to Geelong. The location has little influence, the club itself is the drawcard.

[CURLY]

Geelong are very smart with their sales pitch and recruiting. Matt Rendell was saying on Trade Radio the other day that only 4 out of their current list are city boys. They have purposely gone for the country lads and sold the dream of being away from the big city, here's a farm, here's the surf etc etc. Hard to sell Moorabbin in the same way I would imagine.

Maybe true but they do have a salary cap as well

Yep, there was talk recently that Hawkins was on as little as $300K because he wanted to play with the cats only and knew the cap constraints and just wanted success. Not sure Brad Hill would do the same, or Billings, or ......

Not Hawkins only being a stone throw from his farm had also the family farm has anything to do with it

[CURLY]

Geelong are very smart with their sales pitch and recruiting. Matt Rendell was saying on Trade Radio the other day that only 4 out of their current list are city boys. They have purposely gone for the country lads and sold the dream of being away from the big city, here's a farm, here's the surf etc etc. Hard to sell Moorabbin in the same way I would imagine.

Maybe true but they do have a salary cap as well

Yep, there was talk recently that Hawkins was on as little as $300K because he wanted to play with the cats only and knew the cap constraints and just wanted success. Not sure Brad Hill would do the same, or Billings, or ......

& there's also talk that Hawkins owns multiple Cotton On stores & pubs ... on $300,000 ??
If true then $300,000 is total BS or ... well you know

Your not buying large farms in prime locations on 300k a year either.

[CURLY]

Geelong are very smart with their sales pitch and recruiting. Matt Rendell was saying on Trade Radio the other day that only 4 out of their current list are city boys. They have purposely gone for the country lads and sold the dream of being away from the big city, here's a farm, here's the surf etc etc. Hard to sell Moorabbin in the same way I would imagine.

Geelong a more attractive location than Melbourne's Bayside suburbs? The real estate market would suggest not.

I'm sure the country boys at Geelong wouldn't give a rats about the property prices in Highett.

Probably not. But I'm certain it'd be easier to entice 18-30 year olds to move Bayside than to Geelong. The location has little influence, the club itself is the drawcard.

Your kidding right?

[Yorkeys]

Clubs interested in the Bowes package expect to negotiate a significant reduction in the salary component, surely. Like the Suns, they don't really want Bowes, they want pick 7 and Suns are completely exposed. They are probably relieved the conversation has not turned to salary cap management. AFL has indulged the Suns for ever and still they can't even manage a salary cap budget over 5 years. Where is their loud mouth President blaming someone else for their incompetence. Only winners are Bowes and his financial planner.

Later, the notoriety that comes with being the player used with this tainted pick 7 could be a real burden.

[D.B.Cooper]

& there's also talk that Hawkins owns multiple Cotton On stores & pubs ... on $300,000 ??
If true then $300,000 is total BS or ... well you know

How does Hawkins own multiple Cotton On stores?
I wasn't aware Cotton On is fanchised.
I thought the business was privately owned and all stores were company owned.

Can you share your info please?
What is the value of a Cotton On franchise?
Where are the stores?

I don't know a lot about retail, but based on some knowledge of a rival company, a quick calculation has the Westfield based stores turning over between $950K - $1.4M per anum per store.

In regard to Pubs the traditional ownership model for sportsman is a group of 4-8 buying shares in managed facility.
It is normally the operation and sometimes the freehold.

There is little doubt all elite sportsman are paid for marketing, promotion, etc above the salary cap in all high profile sports and clubs.
Perhaps Geelong with their geographic base are doing this more than other clubs, perhaps it is the focus as they have just won the flag.
Could anything match the Visy Judd deal?

[D.B.Cooper]

Cameron Ling owns most of the Geelong foreshore. Not bad for a player on 300k a year apparently.

Your not buying large farms in prime locations on 300k a year either.

Please provide some information on these investments.

Why is it so unlikely that a reasonably well paid sportsman such as Hawkins could build a very decent property portfolio over 16 years of professional sport if he has been well advised over the course of the journey?

[WellardSaint]

Hawkins+wife bought 62 ha farm, 20 mins from Geelong.
I saw an article on them.
They had a flat in South Yarra that they renovated (rental) and sold it early this year for 1.6mil.

They're both 'brand ambassadors' for an Aussie company.
That might give some $$ as well.
He's been assisted along the way, I suggest, by Geelong supporters who are keen to make his life easier.
He drives a Ford Ranger or something (there's a recent video of his team-mates pranking him with a loud buzzer hooked up to his reverse lights). Was the Ranger offered at Mate's Rates?

Our club cannot play with the big boys like the Cats, Pies, Tigers, etc.
The Bombers keep imploding, don't worry about them.
But despite our top guy being a self-made millionaire, the club is simply making up the numbers.
If we moved to Tassie, we could do what the Cats are doing.
Exploit the location and harness all it has to offer.
If it gets us 2 flags in 5 years, I'm sure the Vic-based supporters would be grateful.

[Impatient Sainter]

To me

The salary price is too high just to get a top 10 draft pick.

And this absurd 'smoothing' idea to spread his salary over a longer period time, means he's actually been screwed for $$ he was owed in his first two yrs.

We don't wanna go down this path.

Any club who takes him will split the owed salary over a two or three year term.

[Bruce G McAbee]

Geelong are very smart with their sales pitch and recruiting. Matt Rendell was saying on Trade Radio the other day that only 4 out of their current list are city boys. They have purposely gone for the country lads and sold the dream of being away from the big city, here's a farm, here's the surf etc etc. Hard to sell Moorabbin in the same way I would imagine.

Geelong a more attractive location than Melbourne's Bayside suburbs? The real estate market would suggest not.

I'm sure the country boys at Geelong wouldn't give a rats about the property prices in Highett.

Probably not. But I'm certain it'd be easier to entice 18-30 year olds to move Bayside than to Geelong. The location has little influence, the club itself is the drawcard.

The Surf Coast would be a big attraction to that age group.