Gallagher on draft and trading strategy

[st.byron]

https://www.zerohanger.com/st-kilda-lis ... ws-128246/

This paragraph in particular re Hill. “ "I've spoken to Hilly quite a bit. He's played some really good footy for us at times, Bradley. He's maybe been a little bit inconsistent, certainly in the back half of this year. But he had some mates as well that were probably in that boat.”

Does this non-committal, not naming the truth drive anyone else nuts? WTF do you mean, “He’s maybe been a little bit inconsistent.” And, “…were probably in that boat”. There’s no maybe or probably about it.

Does anyone else read shyte like this as avoiding naming the hard edged truth and see it as a reflection of the jellydick approach our club has. FFS, call a spade a spade.

Hill has been a massively disappointing, bruise free coaster not worth anywhere near $900k.

[skeptic]

Summary for those that don’t want to read the whole thing…

Off-season is expected to be quieter than past off-seasons in terms of trades

We’re not interested in trading pick 9

Offer has been made to DeGoey and he’ll definitely sign somewhere in the next 2-3 days and that will effect what comes next.

Clark and Hill are required players that are expected to remain

Long has requested a trade to GC, may be a part of a deal that involves Bowes but otherwise they’re entertaining a range of other trade options.

[Devilhead]

So Long gone ...... maybe Bowes in a deal for Long ...... maybe DeGoey

Bring on the draft

[Devilhead]

https://www.zerohanger.com/st-kilda-lis ... ws-128246/

This paragraph in particular re Hill. “ "I've spoken to Hilly quite a bit. He's played some really good footy for us at times, Bradley. He's maybe been a little bit inconsistent, certainly in the back half of this year. But he had some mates as well that were probably in that boat.”

Does this non-committal, not naming the truth drive anyone else nuts? WTF do you mean, “He’s maybe been a little bit inconsistent.” And, “…were probably in that boat”. There’s no maybe or probably about it.

Does anyone else read shyte like this as avoiding naming the hard edged truth and see it as a reflection of the jellydick approach our club has. FFS, call a spade a spade.

Hill has been a massively disappointing, bruise free coaster not worth anywhere near $900k.

Yes I can only imagine the interview ....

Trade Talk - OK thanks for coming in to talk us James. It's fair to say that the Saints had a pretty disappointing back half of the season. Can you give us any insight as to why and what the Saints having cooking for the upcoming Trade week?

Gallagher - Thanks for having me on! Yeah .... our last half of the season was shitful and mainly because of softcocks like Hill who is a massively disappointing bruise free coaster. Also (insert name, insert name , insert name, keep inserting names) are all mental midget jellydick peahearts who need to know the hard edged truth that if they bring that if they bring no fkn effort then they will be on the big fat chopping block, in other words they can fk off

Trade Talk - and Trade week?

Gallagher - No more jellydicks

Trade Talk - Well there you have it ..... thanks again James I am sure the Saints players listening are pretty happy that have been outed on public radio for being pussies. No doubt its the exact motivation they need

[st.byron]

https://www.zerohanger.com/st-kilda-lis ... ws-128246/

This paragraph in particular re Hill. “ "I've spoken to Hilly quite a bit. He's played some really good footy for us at times, Bradley. He's maybe been a little bit inconsistent, certainly in the back half of this year. But he had some mates as well that were probably in that boat.”

Does this non-committal, not naming the truth drive anyone else nuts? WTF do you mean, “He’s maybe been a little bit inconsistent.” And, “…were probably in that boat”. There’s no maybe or probably about it.

Does anyone else read shyte like this as avoiding naming the hard edged truth and see it as a reflection of the jellydick approach our club has. FFS, call a spade a spade.

Hill has been a massively disappointing, bruise free coaster not worth anywhere near $900k.

Yes I can only imagine the interview ....

Trade Talk - OK thanks for coming in to talk us James. It's fair to say that the Saints had a pretty disappointing back half of the season. Can you give us any insight as to why and what the Saints having cooking for the upcoming Trade week?

Gallagher - Thanks for having me on! Yeah .... our last half of the season was shitful and mainly because of softcocks like Hill who is a massively disappointing bruise free coaster. Also (insert name, insert name , insert name, keep inserting names) are all mental midget jellydick peahearts who need to know the hard edged truth that if they bring that if they bring no fkn effort then they will be on the big fat chopping block, in other words they can fk off

Trade Talk - and Trade week?

Gallagher - No more jellydicks

Trade Talk - Well there you have it ..... thanks again James I am sure the Saints players listening are pretty happy that have been outed on public radio for being pussies. No doubt its the exact motivation they need

Now you’re talking. Why can’t that happen? It pretty sums up what most of us want to see. I.e no more acceptance of absolute shyte mediocrity

[Killa]

In response to some of the rubbish put on this site, I would offer that Steele is "as weak as piss" for missing games after a bump to the shoulder.

And ditto the remainder of our "soft c**k" players who missed games with injury (which covers the very great majority of our players).

Wanganeen-Milera, Windhager and Owens are "soft cocks with no talent or endeavor" because they did not come 1, 2 and 3 in the Brownlow voting.

And Gallagher and Rattan are as "weak as piss" because they do not call the players on St Kilda's List talent less, "soft cocks" and "as weak as piss" in the media (or anywhere you would hope!).

I am not too sure if this site is populated by 5 year olds or senile, old, unemployed, grey haired "soft men on Viagra, trying to convince themselves they are in any way relevant to society.

But they do the St Kilda football community no service.

[Trev from the Bush]

Just go easy on the grey haired men there Killa!

[Templar]

And the relevancy bit!

[D.B.Cooper]

In response to some of the rubbish put on this site,

Reduce your posting frequency and the quota of rubbish on this site will drop dramatically!

senile, old, unemployed, grey haired "soft men on Viagra, trying to convince themselves they are in any way relevant to society.

Add dry blower to the description and you've nailed your self reflection.

[mbogo]

I think it should also be noted, without naming anyone, that this site appears to have become replete with brain-dead, self-destructive, nuclear-lipped, club-immolating c*ckheads who should be banned from this site - rather than dominate this forum with their drivel and senseless, useless, critical, negative and unhelpful comments, that can only etch away at the club's fabric.
Tough keyboard warrior words endlessly criticising our players and list, seem to me to do nothing except undermine the Saints. Nothing helpful or constructive is ever offered by a number of such forumites.
This place used to be amusing at least - but now it is so toxic!
Where is the rational discussion or where has it gone?
At least Long can be freed from the borderline racist rubbish that has come his way on here since he was drafted. I wish him well and am disappointed to see him go.
Getting rid of Clark would almost certainly burn us IMO, as he has so much upside. Hill is worth keeping if he can be more consistent as is said in the article, replacing him with no one would result in an even weaker performance in 2023 - unless we can find someone to deliver the ball with silky precision that is of similar worth.
And to think I only came to visit today to find out about the draft news - so thanks for that link to the article.

[st.byron]

In response to some of the rubbish put on this site, I would offer that Steele is "as weak as piss" for missing games after a bump to the shoulder.

And ditto the remainder of our "soft c**k" players who missed games with injury (which covers the very great majority of our players).

Wanganeen-Milera, Windhager and Owens are "soft cocks with no talent or endeavor" because they did not come 1, 2 and 3 in the Brownlow voting.

And Gallagher and Rattan are as "weak as piss" because they do not call the players on St Kilda's List talent less, "soft cocks" and "as weak as piss" in the media (or anywhere you would hope!).

I am not too sure if this site is populated by 5 year olds or senile, old, unemployed, grey haired "soft men on Viagra, trying to convince themselves they are in any way relevant to society.

But they do the St Kilda football community no service.

Thanks Killa. Pretty much bang on apart from the Viagra and unemployed bits. Not really senile either, at least not in my judgement. I guess the grey hair ( nearly) bit is accurate. Relevant to society? No illusions there.

[cwrcyn]

Great post Killa.

[SaintPav]

Killa’s new profile pic.

[Killa]

The response of some on here says it all - and confirms my description of certain contributors.

Where is the discussion of the potential on St Kilda's List, the (most obvious) requirements where the further development of the likes of Heath and Adams are critical (because their development addresses the structure requirements)?

Where is the discussion on the transition, with the likes of Wanganeen-Milera, Windhager and Owens (along with others such as Sharman, Peris, Connolly, Byrnes, Bytel et al) pushing past our older players, so the likes of Ross, Webster, Wood et al, at or approaching 30 years of age?

The demographic of the St Kilda FC is NOT players aged near or past 30 years of age with over 200 games of experience.

But, currently, that is the opposition across the Competition.

Until the List St Kilda is building becomes an experienced, mature List including reserves.

[cwrcyn]

Much is made of the demographic of our list, with many moaning about how we're one of the oldest lists. This is misleading.

None of our preferred starting 22 players are over the age of 29

If we put together a team of players who have at least 5 years football left in them it looks like this. Most have 7 years or more ahead of them.

Paton Howard Wilkie
Coffield Battle Sinclair
Mckenzie Gresham Clark
Billings Sharman Butler
Higgins King Hayes

Marshall Windhager Owens

Inter Highmore Connolly Wanganeen-Milera Bytel

Of those players, we should see improvement in Clark, Coffield, Owens, Windhager, Wanganeen-Milera, King, and Connolly.

With good drafting this year and next, we could see the same group of players in 3 years with the additions of 3 or 4 talented youngsters.

In fact, in 3 years we could still see the players outside of that team still playing: Membrey, Crouch, Webster, Wood, and Ross. In three years none of those players will be older than 32.

I get the impression that people think there is no growth or improvement in our existing list of players and that we're about to fall off the cliff due to our age demographic. Neither are true.

That team has improvement and growth in it in the short to medium term. No need to go into a hysterical panic. However, we have to nail the next two drafts for the long term improvement

[Banger9798]

Now DeGoey gone if we can land the Bowes deal

Bowes, Pick 7 and Pick 9 coming in to the team, and Long going out is not a bad result.

Hannas for a rookie spot?

[Vortex]

In response to some of the rubbish put on this site, I would offer that Steele is "as weak as piss" for missing games after a bump to the shoulder.

And ditto the remainder of our "soft c**k" players who missed games with injury (which covers the very great majority of our players).

Wanganeen-Milera, Windhager and Owens are "soft cocks with no talent or endeavor" because they did not come 1, 2 and 3 in the Brownlow voting.

And Gallagher and Rattan are as "weak as piss" because they do not call the players on St Kilda's List talent less, "soft cocks" and "as weak as piss" in the media (or anywhere you would hope!).

I am not too sure if this site is populated by 5 year olds or senile, old, unemployed, grey haired "soft men on Viagra, trying to convince themselves they are in any way relevant to society.

But they do the St Kilda football community no service.

What is Viagra ?

[D.B.Cooper]

What is Viagra ?

I have read it allegedly helps old dry blowers to ahem, be “ready” for action.

[D.B.Cooper]

Now DeGoey gone if we can land the Bowes deal

Bowes, Pick 7 and Pick 9 coming in to the team, and Long going out is not a bad result.

Hannas for a rookie spot?

Great post, until the last sentence.
I am concerned the club may actually do this.

[mr six o'clock]

Now DeGoey gone if we can land the Bowes deal

Bowes, Pick 7 and Pick 9 coming in to the team, and Long going out is not a bad result.

Hannas for a rookie spot?

Great post, until the last sentence.
I am concerned the club may actually do this.

I'd offer Hanna's a rookie spot with one condition ,
No play , No pay !

[B.M]

Gallagher spin

Basically we are doing FA so get ready for that

Media dept will be trying to sell that as the right thing to do

And mindless, dumbarse followers will believe them

[jackal]

Shame there is no like button.

My sentiments exactly (aside from the first para cos I just ignore all that).

We were off the mark this year but not that far...King playing a bit better and one or two players stepping up and we beat Lions and Swans (who finish 2 and 3/4) and make the 8. From memory Membrey missed a couple he's normally kick that took the wind out of the sails a bit.
Madness to get rid of Clarke and/or Hill for peanuts. They were not our problem in my view. More consistency from the small forwards, another key back and a gun on the ball are all we need to be in the mix...and then some luck.

I think it should also be noted, without naming anyone, that this site appears to have become replete with brain-dead, self-destructive, nuclear-lipped, club-immolating c*ckheads who should be banned from this site - rather than dominate this forum with their drivel and senseless, useless, critical, negative and unhelpful comments, that can only etch away at the club's fabric.
Tough keyboard warrior words endlessly criticising our players and list, seem to me to do nothing except undermine the Saints. Nothing helpful or constructive is ever offered by a number of such forumites.
This place used to be amusing at least - but now it is so toxic!
Where is the rational discussion or where has it gone?
At least Long can be freed from the borderline racist rubbish that has come his way on here since he was drafted. I wish him well and am disappointed to see him go.
Getting rid of Clark would almost certainly burn us IMO, as he has so much upside. Hill is worth keeping if he can be more consistent as is said in the article, replacing him with no one would result in an even weaker performance in 2023 - unless we can find someone to deliver the ball with silky precision that is of similar worth.
And to think I only came to visit today to find out about the draft news - so thanks for that link to the article.

[Scollop]

Now DeGoey gone if we can land the Bowes deal

Bowes, Pick 7 and Pick 9 coming in to the team, and Long going out is not a bad result.

Hannas for a rookie spot?

Great post, until the last sentence.
I am concerned the club may actually do this.

I'd offer Hanna's a rookie spot with one condition ,
No play , No pay !

Hannas seemed to have benefited greatly from the treatment overseas from the German doctor. If Hannas is hungry to play on and if he is keeping himself fit, we should keep him on the list as a rookie. Steele, Membrey, Wilkie and Howard need a guy like Hannebery around them and his influence on field cannot be underestimated. The key here is if he has turned the corner with his chronic soft tissue comcerns

[WellardSaint]

Now DeGoey gone if we can land the Bowes deal

Bowes, Pick 7 and Pick 9 coming in to the team, and Long going out is not a bad result.

Hannas for a rookie spot?

Great post, until the last sentence.
I am concerned the club may actually do this.

I'd offer Hanna's a rookie spot with one condition ,
No play , No pay !

Hannas seemed to have benefited greatly from the treatment overseas from the German doctor. If Hannas is hungry to play on and if he is keeping himself fit, we should keep him on the list as a rookie. Steele, Membrey, Wilkie and Howard need a guy like Hannebery around them and his influence on field cannot be underestimated. The key here is if he has turned the corner with his chronic soft tissue comcerns

The club may not draft enough to fill the list, there may not be enough quality- csm they bring him back for a year?

[kosifantutti]

Shame there is no like button.