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Re: Hunter Clark

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B.M wrote: Mon 19 Sep 2022 8:19pm Either McCartin, Stanley or Hickey will be premiership players

McEvoy was a premiership player

Ball was a premiership player

Goddard a captain and B&F

Dal Santo excellent at North

Hall a premiership player

Smith an AA at Hawthorn

Everitt an AA and B&F at Hawthorn

Lappin nearly 150 games at Carlton

Need I go on?!
BM you know the history behind all those players leaving and they have nothing to do with the current administration and are all very different to the Clark situation.


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Re: Hunter Clark

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North have just been given a future 2nd and 3rd round selection to be used for trades this year.

I wonder if we are looking at

Clark, Hill and Pick 10

For

Pick 1 this year, future 2nd and future 3rd


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Re: Hunter Clark

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Impatient Sainter wrote: Tue 20 Sep 2022 1:10am
B.M wrote: Mon 19 Sep 2022 8:19pm Either McCartin, Stanley or Hickey will be premiership players

McEvoy was a premiership player

Ball was a premiership player

Goddard a captain and B&F

Dal Santo excellent at North

Hall a premiership player

Smith an AA at Hawthorn

Everitt an AA and B&F at Hawthorn

Lappin nearly 150 games at Carlton

Need I go on?!
BM you know the history behind all those players leaving and they have nothing to do with the current administration and are all very different to the Clark situation.
I did say recently


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Re: Hunter Clark

Post: # 1980377Post B.M »

Ok

Recently

Long
Clark
Hill

Recent enough for you?

Acres?


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Re: Hunter Clark

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Long and Acres good?
And the others haven't left.

Next!


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Re: Hunter Clark

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B.M wrote: Tue 20 Sep 2022 10:14am Ok

Recently

Long
Clark
Hill

Recent enough for you?

Acres?
Where would Acres play in our current side? All of McKenzie, Billings, Wood & NWM would be ahead of him. If Hill stays he should take another wing. Its the exact reason Fremantle are happy for him to leave.

Long is moving for financial security as will 15-25 other players this year. Good luck to him.

Hill is a club 'culture killer' and its best for our club that he leaves.

Clark is 'potential only' and is a smart move by the club to trade him while he has capital. If it doesnt eventuate he gets the kick up the arse he needs to go to the next level.

As long as the club gets decent picks for them, for different reasons Im more than happy to see all 3 leave!


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Re: Hunter Clark

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Banger9798 wrote: Tue 20 Sep 2022 8:47am North have just been given a future 2nd and 3rd round selection to be used for trades this year.

I wonder if we are looking at

Clark, Hill and Pick 10

For

Pick 1 this year, future 2nd and future 3rd
Rate this trade, although id be happy with just a future 3rd rounder, think we would be asking to much of north to get both 2nd and 3rd.


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Re: Hunter Clark

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Brunswicksainter wrote: Tue 20 Sep 2022 1:27pm
Banger9798 wrote: Tue 20 Sep 2022 8:47am North have just been given a future 2nd and 3rd round selection to be used for trades this year.

I wonder if we are looking at

Clark, Hill and Pick 10

For

Pick 1 this year, future 2nd and future 3rd
Rate this trade, although id be happy with just a future 3rd rounder, think we would be asking to much of north to get both 2nd and 3rd.
I'd take this trade in a heartbeat. Agree would be asking too much though.


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Re: Hunter Clark

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stkfc1 wrote: Tue 20 Sep 2022 1:47pm
Brunswicksainter wrote: Tue 20 Sep 2022 1:27pm
Banger9798 wrote: Tue 20 Sep 2022 8:47am North have just been given a future 2nd and 3rd round selection to be used for trades this year.

I wonder if we are looking at

Clark, Hill and Pick 10

For

Pick 1 this year, future 2nd and future 3rd
Rate this trade, although id be happy with just a future 3rd rounder, think we would be asking to much of north to get both 2nd and 3rd.
I'd take this trade in a heartbeat. Agree would be asking too much though.
Definitely asking way, way too much!

It basically rates hill as a 3rd rounder, Clark as a second rounder and pick 10 as the same value pick 1!


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Re: Hunter Clark

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Sam Edmund taking the piss. Clark for a future second FFS. How about we trade King for a late second as well.


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Re: Hunter Clark

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Why would we want to do it?
The player we get might be as good as Clark in a couple of years but might also be a bust.
We need to keep our good players and build on it with free agents and draft.


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longtimesaint wrote: Tue 20 Sep 2022 3:56pm Why would we want to do it?
The player we get might be as good as Clark in a couple of years but might also be a bust.
We need to keep our good players and build on it with free agents and draft.
Yes, the people wanting him traded for a draft pick don't understand the irony in their wish.


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Re: Hunter Clark

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longtimesaint wrote: Tue 20 Sep 2022 3:56pm Why would we want to do it?
The player we get might be as good as Clark in a couple of years but might also be a bust.
We need to keep our good players and build on it with free agents and draft.
This is a real bug bear of mine.

Especially following the draft/trade points system was introduced people have really disconnected from the actual purpose of the trade.

The point is that you’re generally meant to be better off than if you hadn’t done the trade. That can take a couple of different forms (player performance, salary cap release, getting rid of a negative personality etc).
Obviously when trading with picks, one also accepts the unpredictable/gamble aspect of the trade.

So to look at it specific to Clark

You have a guy that many think is extremely talented but has stagnated.
Primary reason for stagnation is injury…
Question marks added more recently regarding his drive

Regardless… fact is that he has demonstrated a very high ceiling that could see him be an A-Grader but he hasn’t produced this with any consistency past one good year.

He’s also a player that could address list deficiencies.

So you want to take that… and trade it for a future second round pick.
Say North improve… other stuff happens… say pick 20+

And with that, you hope to get a player that has a reduced % of bring better than him, a moderate % for being about as good and a high % for being not nearly as good.

Doesn’t make sense to me


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Re: Hunter Clark

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amusingname wrote: Tue 20 Sep 2022 3:12pm
stkfc1 wrote: Tue 20 Sep 2022 1:47pm
Brunswicksainter wrote: Tue 20 Sep 2022 1:27pm
Banger9798 wrote: Tue 20 Sep 2022 8:47am North have just been given a future 2nd and 3rd round selection to be used for trades this year.

I wonder if we are looking at

Clark, Hill and Pick 10

For

Pick 1 this year, future 2nd and future 3rd
Rate this trade, although id be happy with just a future 3rd rounder, think we would be asking to much of north to get both 2nd and 3rd.
I'd take this trade in a heartbeat. Agree would be asking too much though.
Definitely asking way, way too much!

It basically rates hill as a 3rd rounder, Clark as a second rounder and pick 10 as the same value pick 1!
Remove the 2nd pick though. Do you think clark plus 10 and maybe a pick shuffle later on could nab us 1?….probably not but one can only dream. Agree hill is virtually worthless in this transaction - we will also need to pick a portion of his contract which is fine.


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Re: Hunter Clark

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stkfc1 wrote: Tue 20 Sep 2022 1:47pm
Brunswicksainter wrote: Tue 20 Sep 2022 1:27pm
Banger9798 wrote: Tue 20 Sep 2022 8:47am North have just been given a future 2nd and 3rd round selection to be used for trades this year.

I wonder if we are looking at

Clark, Hill and Pick 10

For

Pick 1 this year, future 2nd and future 3rd
Rate this trade, although id be happy with just a future 3rd rounder, think we would be asking to much of north to get both 2nd and 3rd.
I'd take this trade in a heartbeat. Agree would be asking too much though.
Clarko would probably want a young 200cm ruckman, who has heart, good hands and looks like a plodder.


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Re: Hunter Clark

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I reckon go for the lot

Clark is a former pick 7
Hill considered an elite player
Pick 10

Surely worthy of Pick 1, 20 (ish) and 38(ish)


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Re: Hunter Clark

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Hunter Clark (St Kilda)

“We saw the concessions that were given North Melbourne yesterday.
“Incidentally, that future second-rounder, I expect them to use that on Hunter Clark.
“I think that’s likely at the moment as we sit here right now.
“I think that future second-rounder that they’ve been given – a 2023 second-round pick – could be involved.”


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SaintPav wrote: Tue 20 Sep 2022 7:17pm Hunter Clark (St Kilda)

“We saw the concessions that were given North Melbourne yesterday.
“Incidentally, that future second-rounder, I expect them to use that on Hunter Clark.
“I think that’s likely at the moment as we sit here right now.
“I think that future second-rounder that they’ve been given – a 2023 second-round pick – could be involved.”


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Second round.
I have no idea where that pick might be, but knowing our club, would we stuff it up?
we've had more value out of SANFL- Wilkie, maybe Sharman, hopefully Jack Hayes...


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Re: Hunter Clark

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Another Fremantle player has requested a trade to North.
Question is, how can North secure all these players, they have very little to trade.


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Re: Hunter Clark

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Bruce G McAbee wrote: Tue 20 Sep 2022 7:49pm Another Fremantle player has requested a trade to North.
Question is, how can North secure all these players, they have very little to trade.
How can a s*** club like them afford to pay them. They should be relocated to Tasmania.


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This Clark rumour is gold.


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CURLY wrote: Tue 20 Sep 2022 10:16pm This Clark rumour is gold.
You saying it's not true?


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Smoke often = fire

Reporters get info somehow


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Re: Hunter Clark

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We have a terrible record at trading but this could represent a new low.
A 2023 second round pick????????????
Setting ourselves up for a few more years of mediocrity.


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