Trade - Draft Discussion

[lefty]

If we're going to lose good players (Clarke, long, hill) then I certainly hope we are pushing for Bing at all costs.

[evo]

If we're going to lose good players (Clarke, long, hill) then I certainly hope we are pushing for Bing at all costs.

That dream is over, at least in the short term. Including the retirees and the players who may leave we should have a massive cap space to fill though.

[1971]

A little article in the Age today suggesting Clark won't be with us next year. North and Essendon sniffing.

[Saints58]

https://t.co/tUm2SOzWc9

Norths compo reportedly 2nd and 3rd in 2023 draft, that have to be used to trade in players. Hill probably gets traded for the 2nd round pick (2022 or 2023), but it will make the idea of moving Clark for a top 10 pick more complex.

Stavro on BF has suggested there are other clubs interested in Clark with GWS being one.

Why is it north get priority picks to help them fast track up ladder
Maybe my memory is not good but st.kilda didn’t get priority picks when we needed them to help us.
We were down for 2 years I would have thought that would have qualified.

[st.byron]

Saints interested in Bowes and pick 7 according to zerohanger.

https://www.zerohanger.com/suns-make-mo ... ws-127942/

[SaintJohno]

Saints interested in Bowes and pick 7 according to zerohanger.

https://www.zerohanger.com/suns-make-mo ... ws-127942/

I don't mind this if it doesn't screw another big trade we may be thinking of in the next two years. We would have the cap space to pay his contract, and would get Cam Mackenzie at 7 and another at 9 perhaps.

[Vortex]

Jack is a Cairns lad and played for the Cairns Saints.

[bergsone]

That pick 7 looks very tempting.7 and 10,Hill and Clark for JHF and pick 1

[CQ SAINT]

Clark to North for future 2nd.
Our future 2nd and Long to GCS for Bowes and 7.
Pick 9, Hill (+$450k) and Bytel for Horne-Francis
Draft in Mackenzie and hope Lewis Hayes is at our pick 27.
I'd chase Harry Boyd from Norwood and Ethan Phillips from Port Melbourne as mature age rookies/draftees.

[footynut]

Clark to North for future 2nd.
Our future 2nd and Long to GCS for Bowes and 7.
Pick 9, Hill (+$450k) and Bytel for Horne-Francis
Draft in Mackenzie and hope Lewis Hayes is at our pick 27.
I'd chase Harry Boyd from Norwood and Ethan Phillips from Port Melbourne as mature age rookies/draftees.

Why give up pick 9 as well as Hill and Bytel? That's 3 players + 450k for 1. I'd be keeping pick 9

[Vortex]

It sounds like Hill isn't going anywhere

[Impatient Sainter]

Geelong have delisted 5 players Quinton Narkle being one. Another who interests is Paul Tsapatolis 202cm ruckman who I saw play against Max Heath in their under age years. I thought Tsapatolis looked quite good and am surprised Geelong have delisted him.

[bobmurray]

Geelong have delisted 5 players Quinton Narkle being one. Another who interests is Paul Tsapatolis 202cm ruckman who I saw play against Max Heath in their under age years. I thought Tsapatolis looked quite good and am surprised Geelong have delisted him.

they must have realised that once he was too old for U18's he was a spud. If so, next.

[IluvHarvey]

Sadly, I feel like this will be a very uninspiring trade period for St Kilda.
Hopefully something can come from left field but I just don't see it at the moment.

[Impatient Sainter]

All Australian U18 side announced -

https://www.afl.com.au/news/854191/2022 ... alian-team

Back Pocket
Jed Hagan (Western Australia/East Fremantle/Brigades)
Date of Birth: 15/10/04; Height: 175cm; Weight: 73kg
Versatile player who played in all parts of the ground in the Championships, averaging 17 disposals (75% efficiency) and four tackles. Was among his team’s best players in all three matches, always playing with passion and determination that belies his physical size.

Full Back
Josh Weddle (Victoria Metro/Oakleigh Chargers/Eltham) 
Date of Birth: 25/05/04; Height: 192cm; Weight: 89kg
Rock solid in defence in all matches for Victoria Metro. His intercept marking, strength one-on-one and dash from the back half are features of his game. Averaged 15 disposals, four marks, three tackles and four rebound 50s per game in an impressive Championships.

Back Pocket
Lewis Hayes (Victoria Metro/Eastern Ranges/Lysterfield) 
Date of Birth: 17/12/04; Height: 197cm; Weight: 81kg
Tall and agile defender who made great decisions on when to mark or spoil, as well as being neat with his ball use on the way out of defence. Averaged 17 disposals (91% efficiency), six marks and five rebound 50s to be an important cog in Victoria Metro’s Championships-winning team.

Half Back Flank
Lachlan Cowan (Allies/Tasmania Devils/North Launceston) 
Date of Birth: 01/12/04; Height: 188cm; Weight: 81kg
A strong and powerful medium defender who intercepted extremely well and provided dash for the Allies. Averaged 22 disposals (75% efficiency), four tackles and six rebound 50s to be consistently one of his team’s best players. Being named an All-Australian capped off a superb year for Cowan, who was the joint winner of the NAB League’s Morrish Medal.

Centre Half Back
Jedd Busslinger (Western Australia/East Perth/Coolbinia)
Date of Birth: 11/03/04; Height: 196cm; Weight: 83kg
A tall defender whose intercept marking is a feature of his game, along with his precise ball use and composure. Was among his side’s best in matches against Victoria Metro and the Allies, averaging 22 disposals (75% efficiency) seven marks and five rebound 50s, before being curtailed by a shoulder injury.

Half Back Flank
Harley Reid (Victoria Country/Bendigo Pioneers/Tongala) 
Date of Birth: 17/04/05; Height: 185cm; Weight: 78kg
A versatile bottom-aged player who was outstanding for his team predominantly in defence. His contested marking, line-breaking speed and precise ball use are all features of his play. Moved forward in the final quarter of the deciding match of the Championships and almost lifted Victoria Country over the line with two goals from contested marks. Averaged 20 disposals (83% efficiency) and seven marks.

Wing
Jaspa Fletcher (Allies/Brisbane Lions Academy/Sherwood) 
Date of Birth: 24/02/04; Height: 184cm; Weight: 73kg
A medium midfielder who played on both the inside and outside. Key features of his game include his step through traffic, composure with the ball and ability to win the contested ball. Averaged 23 disposals (78% efficiency) and three tackles. Also won the Hunter Harrison Medal as the Best and Fairest player in the Academy series as part of selection for the Allies.

Centre
Will Ashcroft (Victoria Metro/Sandringham Dragons/Old Brighton Grammarians)
Date of Birth: 06/05/04; Height: 183cm; Weight: 79kg
Exciting midfielder who dominated throughout the Championships. Averaged 33 disposals, 15 contested possessions, nine clearances and six tackles to completely impose himself on all matches. Won the ball on both the inside and outside with an exciting burst of speed. His influence on games was a major factor in Victoria Metro winning the Championships. Won both his side’s MVP and the Larke Medal as the Best and Fairest player of the Championships.

Wing
Jaxon Binns (Victoria Country/Dandenong Stingrays/Berwick) 
Date of Birth: 29/10/04; Height: 182cm; Weight: 72kg
Played on the wing for the majority of the Championships and was a running machine, averaging 26 disposals and six marks per game. Has the ability to find space as well as connect with teammates, as demonstrated by averaging 11 handball receives. He provided consistent forward entries for this team with his 39 disposal game against the Allies, which was an outstanding individual performance.

Half Forward Flank
Harry Rowston (Allies/GWS Giants Academy/Calder Cannons/Griffith Swans)
Date of Birth: 12/08/04; Height: 182cm; Weight: 78kg
A midfielder/forward who excelled in both roles. Was a prolific ball winner in the centre of the ground and kicked important goals for his team when forward for the Allies. Averaged 23 disposals (72% efficiency) with 10 contested possessions. Was a model of consistency throughout the Championships and won the Allies’ MVP award.

Centre Half Forward
Jed Walter (Allies/Gold Coast Suns Academy/Palm Beach Currumbin) 
Date of Birth: 08/06/05; Height: 195cm; Weight: 91kg
Bottom-aged tall forward who played with a real physical presence up forward. His attack on the ball in marking contests and at ground level was a real asset. Also used his speed and agility to great effect. Averaged nine disposals and four marks, which belied his real influence as he kicked multiple goals in three matches and finished with nine goals for the Championships.

Half Forward Flank
Cameron Mackenzie (Victoria Metro/Sandringham Dragons/Beaumaris)
Date of Birth: 21/01/04; Height: 187cm; Weight: 80kg
A medium midfielder who had an ultra-consistent Championship, averaging 25 disposals (75% efficiency) with an excellent balance of contested possessions (10) and uncontested possessions (15). Used his elite speed, along with his vision and neat disposal to set up his team forward of centre.

Forward Pocket
Harry Sheezel (Victoria Metro/Sandringham Dragons/Ajax) 
Date of Birth: 13/10/04; Height: 183cm; Weight: 74kg
Medium forward who showed a touch of class with a special ability to make something out of nothing around the goals. Kicked eight majors for the Championships, as well as averaging 15 disposals and three marks. Showed the ability to read the cues ahead of others, with his crafty winning of the ball whether in the air or off hands. Always looked dangerous and capable of turning opponents inside out.

Full Forward
Aaron Cadman (Victoria Country/GWV Rebels/Darley)
Date of Birth: 03/03/04; Height: 194cm; Weight: 88kg
A left-footed tall forward with a vice-like grip overhead. Averaged six marks and 14 disposals to be a real standout performer for Victoria Country. Kicked 10 goals for the Championships, including three goals in the deciding match against Victoria Metro, when he was one of the most influential players on the ground.

Forward Pocket
Matthew Jefferson (Victoria Metro/Oakleigh Chargers/Ashburton) 
Date of Birth: 08/03/04; Height: 195cm; Weight: 78kg
A tall forward whose marking both on the lead and in a contested situation was his weapon. Averaged four marks and nine disposals to be the key deep target for the Championships-winning team. Finished with 14 goals overall, including seven goals against Western Australia in a standout performance.

Ruck
Harry Barnett (South Australia/West Adelaide/Goodwood) 
Date of Birth: 22/01/04; Height: 202cm; Weight: 93kg
A strong-marking ruckman and tall forward who showed a real physical presence around the ball, as well as impressive ruck craft and strong hands overhead. Was his team’s best player in their narrow loss to Victoria Country, which was his standout performance. Averaged 12 disposals and 15 hitouts in his three matches, being the best performed ruckman despite missing one game.

Ruck Rover
Reuben Ginbey (Western Australia/East Perth/Dunsborough)
Date of Birth: 10/09/04; Height: 188cm; Weight: 81kg
Left-footed midfielder who was outstanding in winning contested ball and showed a real burst of speed from stoppage. Averaged 21 disposals, 10 contested possessions, four tackles and three clearances to be a shining light for Western Australia. Considered more of a defender coming into the Championships, he was his team’s best player against the Allies and Victoria Country and consistent in other matches to win Western Australia’s MVP award.

Rover
Jhye Clark (Victoria Country/Geelong Falcons/Queenscliff)
Date of Birth: 23/07/04; Height: 180cm; Weight: 77kg
Hard-edged midfielder who attacked the ball aggressively and distributed it neatly by both hand and foot on either side of his body. Also displayed hard running both ways. Averaged 23 disposals (70% efficiency), four clearances and five tackles in an outstanding Championships. Finished runner-up in the Larke Medal, as well as winning Victoria Country’s MVP award.

Interchange
Adam D’Aloia (South Australia/Woodville West Torrens/Henley) 
Date of Birth: 09/04/04; Height: 186cm; Weight: 86kg
A strong-bodied medium midfielder who was ultra-consistent for South Australia throughout the Championships. Averaged 24 disposals (78% efficiency), with 14 contested possessions and five inside 50s to take out his team’s MVP award.

Oliver Hollands (Victoria Country/Murray Bushrangers/Wodonga) 
Date of Birth: 16/01/04; Height: 183cm; Weight: 73kg
Medium midfielder who used his elite aerobic capacity, courage and clean hands to be a prolific ball winner for Victoria Country. Averaged 24 disposals (75% efficiency) and four tackles to be one of his team’s consistent performers throughout the Championships.

Olli Hotton (Victoria Metro/Sandringham Dragons/Hampton Rovers)
Date of Birth: 06/09/04; Height: 181cm; Weight: 77kg
Quick and agile forward with a very good feel for the game. Got into dangerous spots to create for his team throughout the Championships. Averaged 17 disposals, seven contested possessions and finished with six goals across four matches. Was outstanding in Victoria Metro’s comprehensive win over South Australia, with 24 disposals and three goals.

Darcy Jones (Western Australia/Swan Districts/Kalamunda) 
Date of Birth: 03/04/04; Height: 174cm; Weight: 63kg
A small midfielder who is quick, skilful and has footy smarts, all attributes which were displayed prominently in his three matches. Averaged 20 disposals and eight contested possessions per game, as well as finishing with four goals. Missed one match but was an eyecatcher for his team.

Max Michalanney (South Australia/Norwood/ Glenunga) 
Date of Birth: 26/02/04; Height: 192cm; Weight: 78kg
Mobile defender who used his reach and speed to negate the effectiveness of his opponents throughout the Championships. Was South Australia’s best player in its win over the Allies and narrow loss to Victoria Country. Averaged 13 disposals (72% efficiency) and five tackles per game.

[Saints58]

As Byrnes is out of contract could we get anything for him I would like to keep bytel jones well not sure about don't think we get anything for him.

[Killa]

Gallagher has said today the objective is to recruit a tall defender and a tall forward to take the pressure off the undersized Wilkie and Membrey

And to do so without compromising our Draft position

This is absolutely consistent with my thoughts - acknowledging that we have Heath and Adams developing - those players of the demographic Gallagher speaks to

By extension, the pressure will not only come off the undersized Wilkie and Membrey but also off Howard and King

The other observation is that Sharman and Highmore are on our List - but, you could assume they are not of the size Gallagher identifies as being sought

Which is the fact - Highmore and Sharman are like for like with Wilkie and Membrey

We get Hayes back - but he is a very good SANFL player finally getting an AFL opportunity so how that turns out will be interesting (noting a promising start interrupted by season ending injury)

So it is watch this space

If Gallagher can deliver we will be a much improved side structurally and in regard personnel given the likes of Wilkie and Membrey slipping down the order from key position players to support players

And we have salary cap space due to what was held in reserve for De Goey not now allocated

The Club is in good and stable hands

[Killa]

Gallagher has said today the objective is to recruit a tall defender and a tall forward to take the pressure off the undersized Wilkie and Membrey

And to do so without compromising our Draft position

This is absolutely consistent with my thoughts - acknowledging that we have Heath and Adams developing - those players of the demographic Gallagher speaks to

By extension, the pressure will not only come off the undersized Wilkie and Membrey but also off Howard and King

The other observation is that Sharman and Highmore are on our List - but, you could assume they are not of the size Gallagher identifies as being sought

Which is the fact - Highmore and Sharman are like for like with Wilkie and Membrey

We get Hayes back - but he is a very good SANFL player finally getting an AFL opportunity so how that turns out will be interesting (noting a promising start interrupted by season ending injury)

So it is watch this space

If Gallagher can deliver we will be a much improved side structurally and in regard personnel given the likes of Wilkie and Membrey slipping down the order from key position players to support players

And we have salary cap space due to what was held in reserve for De Goey not now allocated

The Club is in good and stable hands

[Saints58]

I now here that Essendon are going to offer Melbourne a 4th rounder next year for Weideman I thought we were into him why didn't we off our pick 46 and a pick in the 60s for him I thought we were targeting KPP I don't think there is much out there unless they are offering Hartigan a contract I really hope not.

[diddley]

There is talk on Big Footy of a rumour.
Clark & pick 9
For
Pick 3.
North’s board is in meltdown over it.
Thoughts?
Would we take it?

[desertsaint]

absolutely we would.
would north though?

[banger74]

if we where to trade for pick 3 and send away Clark and 9th pick i reckon we should target small forward harry sheezel in the draft he said he that he enjoyed training with the team and said he will love to land at St kilda

[footynut]

We'd want some else back, ie 40 &/or 43. So we can look to on trade and up grade 28.

[footynut]

We'd want some else back, ie 40 &/or 43. So we can look to on trade and up grade 28.

[banger74]

get sheezel at 3 and look to trade up to aroud pick 15 to 25 and try find a big there