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Do you expect King to be a better footballer than

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Joe Daniher?


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He already is


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CURLY wrote: Fri 16 Sep 2022 8:28pmHe already is
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CURLY wrote: Fri 16 Sep 2022 8:28pmHe already is
And a more likeable person


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Re: Do you expect King to be a better footballer than

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Joe has to be the most hopeless forward going around .


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Re: Do you expect King to be a better footballer than

Post: # 1980011Post nostalgicsaint »

It's a good question.

My feeling is this finals series shows Max two options of what he can be as a player.

Joe Daniher
Or
Lance Franklin

Regardless of which path he goes down he'll carve his own unique career but their the floor or ceiling of his career imo.

The major difference between the two, work rate, a will to be the man and a will to win.

It's up to Max which path he goes down- either way he is going to have a successful career.


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What being developed by Saints?
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Max will be better than any forward currently playing with possible exception of Hawkins.


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Banger9798 wrote: Sat 17 Sep 2022 4:20pm Max will be better than any forward currently playing with possible exception of Hawkins.
Lance Franklin hasnt retired yet, and might have something to say about that.


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Banger9798 wrote: Sat 17 Sep 2022 4:20pm Max will be better than any forward currently playing with possible exception of Hawkins.
I would argue a Hawkins hasn’t lived up to his hype at start of career
Good forward in good sides
No superstar imo


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CQ SAINT wrote: Sat 17 Sep 2022 5:10pm
Banger9798 wrote: Sat 17 Sep 2022 4:20pm Max will be better than any forward currently playing with possible exception of Hawkins.
Lance Franklin hasnt retired yet, and might have something to say about that.

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Max has already distanced himself from Joe by ridding his face of that moustacca.


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Tad laughable...Max better than Lance Franklin? A player who had/has the "I'll rip your tits off if you get in my way" attitude to get the dang ball....

Max droops into "Matthew Richardson Syndrome"
too frequently...when out muscled.

He is a good player and will improve to greatness 110%.

The greatness factor will be determined by his attitude and self confidence...will that change?


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Re: Do you expect King to be a better footballer than

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2008 was Franklin’s 4th year

He kicked 100 goals


I think King will be be better than Daniher

But nowhere near as good as Franklin, Riewoldt, Brown, Pavlich, Tredrea


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do you expect rubyjo to better than SunnyErnie ?


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Post: # 1980387Post Beno88 »

Lance Franklin kicked 125.84 in his first three seasons.

Max King kicked 112.91 in his first three seasons.

Joe Daniher kicked 65.53 in his first three seasons.

Tom Hawkins didn't kick over 35 goals in a year until his 6th season.


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Post: # 1980417Post B.M »

Or more to the point

At 22 Buddy kicked 100 goals

At 22 Max kicked 50 goals


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Post: # 1980422Post Mr Magic »

Statistics can be used to tell you any story you want them to.


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Re: Do you expect King to be a better footballer than

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B.M wrote: Tue 20 Sep 2022 5:25pm Or more to the point

At 22 Buddy kicked 100 goals

At 22 Max kicked 50 goals
Both different eras. No one has gotten close to kicking 100 goals after Franklin did in ‘08. Mind you, most forwards can’t hit the backside of a barn from a set shot these days lol


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SAINT-LEE wrote: Tue 20 Sep 2022 9:46am Tad laughable...Max better than Lance Franklin? A player who had/has the "I'll rip your tits off if you get in my way" attitude to get the dang ball....

Max droops into "Matthew Richardson Syndrome"
too frequently...when out muscled.

He is a good player and will improve to greatness 110%.

The greatness factor will be determined by his attitude and self confidence...will that change?
Oppo worked out how to play him this year and our awful ball movement into the forward line didn't help.

He needs to learn how to use his attributes:
height
pace
skill below the knees

and he needs to get on his bike ala Riewoldt .

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Post: # 1980475Post Beno88 »

B.M wrote: Tue 20 Sep 2022 5:25pm Or more to the point

At 22 Buddy kicked 100 goals

At 22 Max kicked 50 goals
Not quite.

At 22 Max King has kicked 14 goals. He only turned 22 on July 7 2022.


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B.M wrote: Tue 20 Sep 2022 5:25pm Or more to the point

At 22 Buddy kicked 100 goals

At 22 Max kicked 50 goals
Different era's & the game has changed dramatically in 15 years .IMO comparing apples with oranges .


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Post: # 1981515Post repta »

King if ever this was a wake up call.

Comparisons to Special Officer Doofy should ring alarm bells.

Great forwards demand and lead. They demand how the ball is delivered, where it is delivered and how the forward line operates. They impose themselves on the team, opposition and game. King does it at times, almost teases that he know how to do it. But then retracts.

I dont think I have ever seen so many backmen at ease whilst standing in front of a key forward. Never happened with Lockett, G-Train (they would have ended up in the hospital ward) nor Hawkins or Buddy now.

King needs to work out what his weapons are, how to use them, then impose his way of playing onto the team.

Until he does, he will remain a work in progress until he is a missed opportunity.

He is no where close to the greats of the game at the same age.


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