We gotta hit the draft, hard

[CURLY]

Big deal how they got there they walked in they were going nowhere else.

Still don't see your point.
Dougal Howard, Brad Hill, Matt Crouch, and Zak Jones were going nowhere else.
Adam Cerra was going nowhere else.
Tom Lynch was going nowhere else other than Richmond (and as a free agent).
Steven May and Jake Lever were going nowhere else other than Melbourne.
Joe Daniher was going nowhere else.

They've remained in the top 4 for numerous reason that we cant compete with.

The gift of Selwood and Hawkins.
The walk in of two of the best players in the AFL Cameron and Danger

How on Earth was Selwood a gift?

They wanted a key forward and got gifted Hawkins meaning they got a free hit with Selwood. It has set them up.

Oh, please!
Six other clubs had a pick before Geelong selected Selwood.
So every club that has picked up a father/son selection over the journey was gifted that selection?

Ok they would have picked another mid then. Fact is there list was on par with ours they were desperate for a key forward and got gifted one. Meaning they could just add to there midfield. Fair leg up in an apparent fair comp.

[Life Long Saint]

Big deal how they got there they walked in they were going nowhere else.

Still don't see your point.
Dougal Howard, Brad Hill, Matt Crouch, and Zak Jones were going nowhere else.
Adam Cerra was going nowhere else.
Tom Lynch was going nowhere else other than Richmond (and as a free agent).
Steven May and Jake Lever were going nowhere else other than Melbourne.
Joe Daniher was going nowhere else.

They've remained in the top 4 for numerous reason that we cant compete with.

The gift of Selwood and Hawkins.
The walk in of two of the best players in the AFL Cameron and Danger

How on Earth was Selwood a gift?

They wanted a key forward and got gifted Hawkins meaning they got a free hit with Selwood. It has set them up.

Oh, please!
Six other clubs had a pick before Geelong selected Selwood.
So every club that has picked up a father/son selection over the journey was gifted that selection?

Ok they would have picked another mid then. Fact is there list was on par with ours they were desperate for a key forward and got gifted one. Meaning they could just add to there midfield. Fair leg up in an apparent fair comp.

In that same draft, we chose Armitage over Jack Riewoldt. Go figure!

[CURLY]

Big deal how they got there they walked in they were going nowhere else.

Still don't see your point.
Dougal Howard, Brad Hill, Matt Crouch, and Zak Jones were going nowhere else.
Adam Cerra was going nowhere else.
Tom Lynch was going nowhere else other than Richmond (and as a free agent).
Steven May and Jake Lever were going nowhere else other than Melbourne.
Joe Daniher was going nowhere else.

They've remained in the top 4 for numerous reason that we cant compete with.

The gift of Selwood and Hawkins.
The walk in of two of the best players in the AFL Cameron and Danger

How on Earth was Selwood a gift?

They wanted a key forward and got gifted Hawkins meaning they got a free hit with Selwood. It has set them up.

Oh, please!
Six other clubs had a pick before Geelong selected Selwood.
So every club that has picked up a father/son selection over the journey was gifted that selection?

Ok they would have picked another mid then. Fact is there list was on par with ours they were desperate for a key forward and got gifted one. Meaning they could just add to there midfield. Fair leg up in an apparent fair comp.

In that same draft, we chose Armitage over Jack Riewoldt. Go figure!

We had Riewoldt Kosi and Fergus Watts we needed a mid. If Geelong had to take a key position player we may have got Selwood.

[cwrcyn]

Curly is correct. Under the old F/Son rules, you didn't have to give up anything to get them. So, under todays rules if Geelong had to use pick 7 for Hawkins ( which they would) then they wouldn't have had pick 7 left to use on Selwood.

So, yes, Selwood was a gift from the AFL

[Life Long Saint]

We had Riewoldt Kosi and Fergus Watts we needed a mid. If Geelong had to take a key position player we may have got Selwood.

We had Hayes, Goddard, Dal Santo, Harvey, Montagna, Thompson, Jones, Ball, Baker, Gram, Powell, Fiora, McQualter and Leigh Fisher...Pretty sure we were OK the middle for a few seasons.
Fergus Watts? Injured Fergus Watts!
We had an aging Fraser Gehrig and Kosi with a fractured skull on the list.

[CURLY]

We had Riewoldt Kosi and Fergus Watts we needed a mid. If Geelong had to take a key position player we may have got Selwood.

We had Hayes, Goddard, Dal Santo, Harvey, Montagna, Thompson, Jones, Ball, Baker, Gram, Powell, Fiora, McQualter and Leigh Fisher...Pretty sure we were OK the middle for a few seasons.
Fergus Watts? Injured Fergus Watts!
We had an aging Fraser Gehrig and Kosi with a fractured skull on the list.

Watts was highly rated when he was drafted and we were covered for key forwards. Half the list you rattled off were on the way out so a midfielder was the priority.

[Life Long Saint]

We had Riewoldt Kosi and Fergus Watts we needed a mid. If Geelong had to take a key position player we may have got Selwood.

We had Hayes, Goddard, Dal Santo, Harvey, Montagna, Thompson, Jones, Ball, Baker, Gram, Powell, Fiora, McQualter and Leigh Fisher...Pretty sure we were OK the middle for a few seasons.
Fergus Watts? Injured Fergus Watts!
We had an aging Fraser Gehrig and Kosi with a fractured skull on the list.

Watts was highly rated when he was drafted and we were covered for key forwards. Half the list you rattled off were on the way out so a midfielder was the priority.

We're they really?
Hayes (26 in 2006) 2010 Norm Smith medallist
Goddard (21 in 2006) 2010 Norm Smith runner up
Dal Santo - drafted in 2001. Age 22 in 2006
Montagna - drafted in 2001. Age 22 in 2006
Ball - drafted in 2001. Age 22 in 2006
Gram - drafted in 2001. Age 22 in 2006
Baker - drafted in 1998. Age 26 in 2006

Only Thompson, Harvey, and Jones really toward end of career...But Banger was still playing great footy.

[CURLY]

We had Riewoldt Kosi and Fergus Watts we needed a mid. If Geelong had to take a key position player we may have got Selwood.

We had Hayes, Goddard, Dal Santo, Harvey, Montagna, Thompson, Jones, Ball, Baker, Gram, Powell, Fiora, McQualter and Leigh Fisher...Pretty sure we were OK the middle for a few seasons.
Fergus Watts? Injured Fergus Watts!
We had an aging Fraser Gehrig and Kosi with a fractured skull on the list.

Watts was highly rated when he was drafted and we were covered for key forwards. Half the list you rattled off were on the way out so a midfielder was the priority.

We're they really?
Hayes (26 in 2006) 2010 Norm Smith medallist
Goddard (21 in 2006) 2010 Norm Smith runner up
Dal Santo - drafted in 2001. Age 22 in 2006
Montagna - drafted in 2001. Age 22 in 2006
Ball - drafted in 2001. Age 22 in 2006
Gram - drafted in 2001. Age 22 in 2006
Baker - drafted in 1998. Age 26 in 2006

Only Thompson, Harvey, and Jones really toward end of career...But Banger was still playing great footy.

Baker - Back POCKET
Gram Half Back
Goddard HB
Joey outside wing

[Life Long Saint]

We had Riewoldt Kosi and Fergus Watts we needed a mid. If Geelong had to take a key position player we may have got Selwood.

We had Hayes, Goddard, Dal Santo, Harvey, Montagna, Thompson, Jones, Ball, Baker, Gram, Powell, Fiora, McQualter and Leigh Fisher...Pretty sure we were OK the middle for a few seasons.
Fergus Watts? Injured Fergus Watts!
We had an aging Fraser Gehrig and Kosi with a fractured skull on the list.

Watts was highly rated when he was drafted and we were covered for key forwards. Half the list you rattled off were on the way out so a midfielder was the priority.

We're they really?
Hayes (26 in 2006) 2010 Norm Smith medallist
Goddard (21 in 2006) 2010 Norm Smith runner up
Dal Santo - drafted in 2001. Age 22 in 2006
Montagna - drafted in 2001. Age 22 in 2006
Ball - drafted in 2001. Age 22 in 2006
Gram - drafted in 2001. Age 22 in 2006
Baker - drafted in 1998. Age 26 in 2006

Only Thompson, Harvey, and Jones really toward end of career...But Banger was still playing great footy.

Baker - Back POCKET
Gram Half Back
Goddard HB
Joey outside wing

You have a loose relationship with facts.
Baker was a tagger. Spent a lot of time running with the oppositions prime mover. Ended up in the back pocket.
Gram was only a HB because of the quality of other players ahead of him.
Goddard was used almost everywhere.
Wingers are still midfielders. Pretty sure Joey had his fair share of on ball time.

[CURLY]

We had Riewoldt Kosi and Fergus Watts we needed a mid. If Geelong had to take a key position player we may have got Selwood.

We had Hayes, Goddard, Dal Santo, Harvey, Montagna, Thompson, Jones, Ball, Baker, Gram, Powell, Fiora, McQualter and Leigh Fisher...Pretty sure we were OK the middle for a few seasons.
Fergus Watts? Injured Fergus Watts!
We had an aging Fraser Gehrig and Kosi with a fractured skull on the list.

Watts was highly rated when he was drafted and we were covered for key forwards. Half the list you rattled off were on the way out so a midfielder was the priority.

We're they really?
Hayes (26 in 2006) 2010 Norm Smith medallist
Goddard (21 in 2006) 2010 Norm Smith runner up
Dal Santo - drafted in 2001. Age 22 in 2006
Montagna - drafted in 2001. Age 22 in 2006
Ball - drafted in 2001. Age 22 in 2006
Gram - drafted in 2001. Age 22 in 2006
Baker - drafted in 1998. Age 26 in 2006

Only Thompson, Harvey, and Jones really toward end of career...But Banger was still playing great footy.

Baker - Back POCKET
Gram Half Back
Goddard HB
Joey outside wing

You have a loose relationship with facts.
Baker was a tagger. Spent a lot of time running with the oppositions prime mover. Ended up in the back pocket.
Gram was only a HB because of the quality of other players ahead of him.
Goddard was used almost everywhere.
Wingers are still midfielders. Pretty sure Joey had his fair share of on ball time.

We needed quality mids as the players I mentioned were not that.

[Yorkeys]

Anyone else get the sense Grundy is edging closer to us. No love from Pies, wants to stay in sunny Vic. We need a ruckman, most other Vic clubs don't. Its maybe just settling on how much Collingwood top up his salary. They would want to cut their losses wouldn't they. And they would not see us as a premiership threat (why would any team).

[freely]

Treloar

even nominated us

Oh don't remind me!

[Royston]

Anyone else get the sense Grundy is edging closer to us. No love from Pies, wants to stay in sunny Vic. We need a ruckman, most other Vic clubs don't. Its maybe just settling on how much Collingwood top up his salary. They would want to cut their losses wouldn't they. And they would not see us as a premiership threat (why would any team).

Gee, not sure what to think of this....
Would we pull the trigger, surely Hannas is cooked and frees up cash.
Amon going to Hawks it seems
Taranto & De Goey, who knows....

Would depend on what the Pies pay, which I can't imaging would be significant as there is 5 years to run on his contract and
Treloar is still being funded by them (partially)

He is a very good player when up and going....and would be the succession plan to Ryder finishing.

[B.M]

Why do we need another ruckman?

[B.M]

Why don’t we get Paddy Cripps or Oliver?!

[Teflon]

Geelong have barely used the draft in 20 years

They pick up good players

Develop astute picks

And stay relevant

Have not rebuilt since 2001 - 3 flags in that time

Sydney the same - 2 flags

And had no father/son assistance at all too

[cwrcyn]

Take Scarlett, Ablett, and Hawkins out of their premiership teams and ..... they're not premiership teams. Simple

[cwrcyn]

So from F/S they got the best midfielder of the past 20 years, the best fullback of the past 20 years, and one of the best key forwards of the past 20 years.

Nah.......didn't help them at all

[B.M]

We also had three gifts (for being hopeless)

2 x priority picks (2000/2001)
Bumped up to pick 1 in 2002
And took Goddard (instead of who we were going to select with pick 3 - Salopek

[Wayne42]

Anyone else get the sense Grundy is edging closer to us. No love from Pies, wants to stay in sunny Vic. We need a ruckman, most other Vic clubs don't. Its maybe just settling on how much Collingwood top up his salary. They would want to cut their losses wouldn't they. And they would not see us as a premiership threat (why would any team).

Grundy is not coming to the saints, funniest thing i've read on here this year.

Why, he's not a back flanker or a 193cm Key defender or a VFL ruckman.

[bangaulegend]

We also had three gifts (for being hopeless)

2 x priority picks (2000/2001)
Bumped up to pick 1 in 2002
And took Goddard (instead of who we were going to select with pick 3 - Salopek

Handy Kosi & Rooey & BJ & still couldn't make it work

[cwrcyn]

And Geelong, after securing those F/S picks for a bag of chips, got to keep their first, second, and third round picks during those years.

No club can have that kind of privelege these days

[Wayne42]

We, The saints, can hit the draft as hard as we like, that doesn't mean we'll get our selections correct, history says we'll F*** most of them up.

[Teflon]

So from F/S they got the best midfielder of the past 20 years, the best fullback of the past 20 years, and one of the best key forwards of the past 20 years.

Nah.......didn't help them at all

Yes….that was sorta where I was going but thanks for helping spell it out..

[Teflon]

Thread title needs to change:

“We need to hit the piss hard”