King - does he really want to be at SK

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King - does he really want to be at SK

Post: # 1966608Post 1965 Saint »

I noticed that King appeared disinterested in the celebrations last Friday and not singing the song. I’m rapidly concluding he doesn’t want to be with us. Tonight he was as useful as t…s on a bull. Maybe the twins are going to reunite at the Suns???


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Post: # 1966664Post Sainter_Dad »

I am sure that he does - did he not recently renew his contract?

Maybe he was buggered on Friday
Maybe he is unsure of what he is to do at FF
Maybe he needs some mentoring
Maybe he had 'personal' issues

He needs to do something though - the hopes of ALL St Kilda fans rest squarely on the shoulders of this just turned 23 year old!!!!

But I do think he needs a mentor who can not only give him support - but tell him to HTFU


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Post: # 1966667Post AllBarOne »

Long time reader...first time poster. What a ridiculous comment to make. So many on this forum turn on players so quickly. For mine, you have to look at the gameplay. Others say we don't have the players. I say that is crap. Our best is bloody brilliant. It's on the coaches to motivate and get these players up and put in a game plan that suits. Let's stop bagging a 22 year old who has shown he is a stkilda man and blame those who really are at fault ..... the umpires (tongue in cheek but boy they don't make it easy not to bag them).


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Post: # 1966678Post Bruce G McAbee »

I beginning to believe by this time next year he'll be in Ben's shadow.


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Post: # 1966713Post The_Dud »

I’d be depressed if I had to play in our forward line too…


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Post: # 1966832Post BadRossco »

Might be time to do what Carlton tried with Fevola and play him in the backline against good opposition forwards who could teach him about finding space. Ben was touted as a CHB maybe they got the twins mixed up as he seems to be a more attacking forward than Max


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Post: # 1966847Post Goose is king »

He has just turned 22


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Post: # 1966888Post Teflon »

King user properly is least of our issues
Get a game plan that demands he leads he’ll be fine
And get his brother


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Post: # 1966893Post B.M »

At 22 most superstars were already stars!

He’s been really disappointing in the last 6 weeks

I’m talking about his attitude

His body language is meek and disinterested- he needs to man up!


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Post: # 1966896Post D.B.Cooper »

The burning question with King is why is he so stagnant.

He’s a brilliant talent, quick and agile with incredible agility for his size.

If he played percentage football and got kicks on the lead he’d be unstoppable.

All the commentators who were great key forwards like Roo, Brown, Brereton, Carey, BM etc say this constantly.
It’s obvious to all and sundry.

Why doesn’t it happen?

Surely it’s not the game plan to boot it on his head while he camps at the top of the square.

The guy got high 90’s in his VCE so he’s no fool, surely the coaches are working on this so why hasn’t it changed?

It really defies logic.


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Post: # 1966898Post spert »

King obviously wants to be at St Kilda, has much natural skills, but it looks to me like he is just not up to it when the pressure is on right now. Needs a spell at Sandy to work on his deficiencies.


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Post: # 1967327Post saintsRrising »

He'll be fine.....as soon as well actually decide to have a real game plan which includes forward entries and transitions.



As soon as King ripped apart a few teams in a quarter opposition coaches and backlines are always focused on him with an outnumber.


Weirdly against the Blues we seemed to have system for the game......but then against Freo we reverted back to no real game plan.


The worry is can Rats changed his spots? Game plan wise he refers to David Rath, and what he has put in place is putrid.
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Post: # 1967329Post Rubyjo »

The more he looks like Borat the more he will play like Borat..


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Post: # 1967338Post Killa »

King needs support

Periodically he has had that support by Ryder and Marshall being forward - but only periodically

As with our backline we are one very capable tall short - hence the opposition can double team King including by blocking

There is Membrey but he is only midfielder size hence a bonus, more dangerous when 3rd banana

Riewoldt had Gehrig and Kossi

Therein lies the difference


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Post: # 1967339Post Killa »

And just to further make the point Brown had Lynch, Brereton had Dunstall, Carey had Longmire, Lockett had Lowe, Franklin had Roughead and so it goes on

King has who?

Therein lies the problem


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Post: # 1967340Post SaintPav »

We had Bruce but we let him go.

I was always uneasy about this.

King, Bruce, Membrey.


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Post: # 1967342Post Borat »

Rubyjo wrote: Wed 13 Jul 2022 10:28pm The more he looks like Borat the more he will play like Borat..
Yes, is true. He play very well when he first look like Borat but now he need to trim moustache and make look beautiful like a Borat moustache. Then he make kicking your goal to glorious benefit for premiership Saints footy ball. And then we make winning team and HIGH FIVE !!

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Post: # 1967343Post asiu »

Rubyjo wrote: Wed 13 Jul 2022 10:28pm The more he looks like Borat the more he will play like Borat..
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Post: # 1967344Post asiu »

haha

too quick ... lol

well well well

bung it on son


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Post: # 1967347Post B.M »

Why did we let Bruce go?

Effectively we got Zac Jones for him

A key forward for a small mid - strange decision imo


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Post: # 1967354Post Vortex »

Bruce was the one we shouldn't have let go


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Post: # 1967382Post bigcarl »

Killa wrote: Thu 14 Jul 2022 12:04am And just to further make the point Brown had Lynch, Brereton had Dunstall, Carey had Longmire, Lockett had Lowe, Franklin had Roughead and so it goes on

King has who?

Therein lies the problem
Maybe just ruck Marshall and plonk Paddy deep for the whole match. The other way around would be better, but it would be asking a lot of a 34-year-old.

Can’t see too many other options. Sharman not ready. Hayes out for season. Membrey, a good third banana but not a true key forward. Too short in defence already to move someone forward.


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Post: # 1967458Post Scollop »

Vortex wrote: Thu 14 Jul 2022 7:45am Bruce was the one we shouldn't have let go
Some of the staff at St Kilda and some of the players didn’t like his clothes or his hair or his bad jokes or something…

We want everyone to feel comfortable and safe and not be confused if they don’t understand people’s jokes


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Post: # 1967460Post B.M »

I heard that Bruce was not well liked at StK and most were glad to see the back of him!


Still
He and King would’ve been a good pairing imo


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Post: # 1967508Post Teflon »

Killa wrote: Thu 14 Jul 2022 12:04am And just to further make the point Brown had Lynch, Brereton had Dunstall, Carey had Longmire, Lockett had Lowe, Franklin had Roughead and so it goes on

King has who?

Therein lies the problem
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