FFS, Tom Highmore must be selected !!

This unofficial St Kilda Saints fan forum is for people of all ages to chat Saints Footy and all posts must be respectful.

Moderators: Saintsational Administrators, Saintsational Moderators

Post Reply
Sainternist
Saintsational Legend
Posts: 11354
Joined: Thu 11 Mar 2004 12:57am
Location: South of Heaven
Has thanked: 1349 times
Been thanked: 462 times

FFS, Tom Highmore must be selected !!

Post: # 1964129Post Sainternist »

Highmore is killing it for Sandy, week after week. He had 35 possessions and 13 marks. He was terrific down back in 2021 during his rookie season. How does this guy not get a game, particularly that a few of our defenders have been struggling for a while?

Surely, selections are starting to wake up and smell the coffee! ☕️

https://www.saints.com.au/news/1159521? ... &fs=e&s=cl
Last edited by Sainternist on Tue 28 Jun 2022 7:40pm, edited 1 time in total.


Curb your enthusiasm - you’re a St.Kilda supporter!!
Image
nostalgicsaint
Club Player
Posts: 1077
Joined: Mon 20 Jan 2020 7:38am
Has thanked: 64 times
Been thanked: 318 times

Re: FFS, Tom Highmore must be selected !!

Post: # 1964130Post nostalgicsaint »

Interesting that batch calls out Higgins and wood as up for selection.

I get stats aren't everything but they don't look good.


Disclaimer: posts are my views and shouldn't be taken as fact, even if I am in fact right.
User avatar
SaintPav
Saintsational Legend
Posts: 19157
Joined: Wed 16 Jun 2010 9:24pm
Location: Alma Road
Has thanked: 1609 times
Been thanked: 2031 times

Re: FFS, Tom Highmore must be selected !!

Post: # 1964131Post SaintPav »

They need to restructure the backline to fit him in.

Pity he’s not a midfielder.


Holder of unacceptable views and other thought crimes.
Saints58
Club Player
Posts: 728
Joined: Tue 13 Oct 2020 9:25pm
Has thanked: 532 times
Been thanked: 123 times

Re: FFS, Tom Highmore must be selected !!

Post: # 1964132Post Saints58 »

Highmore is not the only one killing it in the VFL what about Campbell he was B.O.G. a few times can take a mark presents well and kicks goals.
We have paddy Ryder out so do we play Campbell who would be a great chop out for Marshall and King no we play Sharman as backup ruck what the F**K!!!!
We lost it at selection again.


User avatar
Wayne42
Saintsational Legend
Posts: 4911
Joined: Mon 24 Jun 2013 10:27pm
Has thanked: 619 times
Been thanked: 558 times

Re: FFS, Tom Highmore must be selected !!

Post: # 1964134Post Wayne42 »

Good to see the Sandy coach talking up the Saints players.

I hope he tells them a few home truths as well, just between him and them.

Selection will be interesting this week, i'm past caring who's in and who's out, i just want to see the 22 perform, oh, and if the pine warmer gets on
then i hope he has a crack as well, especially as he gets credited with a game played for his cv, regardless.


The Saints are under review, will it make any difference to the underachievers ?
User avatar
Impatient Sainter
Saintsational Legend
Posts: 4089
Joined: Tue 05 Apr 2016 3:30pm
Has thanked: 2622 times
Been thanked: 1078 times

Re: FFS, Tom Highmore must be selected !!

Post: # 1964136Post Impatient Sainter »

SaintPav wrote: Tue 28 Jun 2022 6:46pm They need to restructure the backline to fit him in.

Pity he’s not a midfielder.
Yep drop Howard, put Battle in his role and Highmore in Battles.


Sainternist
Saintsational Legend
Posts: 11354
Joined: Thu 11 Mar 2004 12:57am
Location: South of Heaven
Has thanked: 1349 times
Been thanked: 462 times

Re: FFS, Tom Highmore must be selected !!

Post: # 1964144Post Sainternist »

SaintPav wrote: Tue 28 Jun 2022 6:46pm They need to restructure the backline to fit him in.

Pity he’s not a midfielder.
Perhaps he can double up as a midfielder and defender, like Bradshaw has with the Dees?

I agree with you on restructuring the backline. Howard must be dropped. Paton and Webster have struggled at times, which should have Darragh Joyce and Leo Connolly breathing down their necks.

A backline like so seems worth trying out:

B Joyce Wilkie Highmore
HB Clark Battle Sinclair

Can have Connolly on the bench 👍


Curb your enthusiasm - you’re a St.Kilda supporter!!
Image
spert
Saintsational Legend
Posts: 9151
Joined: Wed 29 Jun 2005 10:39pm
Location: A distant beach
Has thanked: 1 time
Been thanked: 438 times

Re: FFS, Tom Highmore must be selected !!

Post: # 1964155Post spert »

Sainternist wrote: Tue 28 Jun 2022 7:37pm
SaintPav wrote: Tue 28 Jun 2022 6:46pm They need to restructure the backline to fit him in.

Pity he’s not a midfielder.
Perhaps he can double up as a midfielder and defender, like Bradshaw has with the Dees?

I agree with you on restructuring the backline. Howard must be dropped. Paton and Webster have struggled at times, which should have Darragh Joyce and Leo Connolly breathing down their necks.

A backline like so seems worth trying out:

B Joyce Wilkie Highmore
HB Clark Battle Sinclair

Can have Connolly on the bench 👍
Connolly looks way off senior selection- not exactly tearing it up at Sandy..rather give Peris a game. Webster did a few horrible turnovers against the Swans, and Paton seems slow to dispose of ball in general play. Highmore could easily come in for one of them.


nostalgicsaint
Club Player
Posts: 1077
Joined: Mon 20 Jan 2020 7:38am
Has thanked: 64 times
Been thanked: 318 times

Re: FFS, Tom Highmore must be selected !!

Post: # 1964161Post nostalgicsaint »

I dont get the Howard hate.


Disclaimer: posts are my views and shouldn't be taken as fact, even if I am in fact right.
Sainternist
Saintsational Legend
Posts: 11354
Joined: Thu 11 Mar 2004 12:57am
Location: South of Heaven
Has thanked: 1349 times
Been thanked: 462 times

Re: FFS, Tom Highmore must be selected !!

Post: # 1964163Post Sainternist »

nostalgicsaint wrote: Tue 28 Jun 2022 8:58pm I dont get the Howard hate.
His form has been awful for the most part of the season!


Curb your enthusiasm - you’re a St.Kilda supporter!!
Image
User avatar
D.B.Cooper
SS Hall of Fame
Posts: 2210
Joined: Sun 24 Oct 2021 5:50pm
Has thanked: 792 times
Been thanked: 753 times

Re: FFS, Tom Highmore must be selected !!

Post: # 1964164Post D.B.Cooper »

I get we have a settled back line that has been very good all year with the exception of the last two weeks when they have been slaughtered with the assistance of repeat entries and lack of defensive pressure by forwards and mids.

Nonetheless Highmore has had it 35 times and taken 10 marks (8 intercept) along with 4 tackles.

Where is selection integrity if he is ignored?

Do you try him forward?
Move Battle forward?

He doesn’t replace Paton or Webster as he plays a totally different role.

Where does he fit in?


There's only one rule in the jungle! When the LYON's hungry, he eats!
User avatar
skeptic
Saintsational Legend
Posts: 17048
Joined: Wed 10 Mar 2004 7:10pm
Has thanked: 3664 times
Been thanked: 2927 times

Re: FFS, Tom Highmore must be selected !!

Post: # 1964165Post skeptic »

I think it’s really bad practice to have a player playing this consistently well and not ignore


User avatar
Devilhead
Saintsational Legend
Posts: 8393
Joined: Mon 08 Mar 2004 11:56pm
Has thanked: 139 times
Been thanked: 1174 times

Re: FFS, Tom Highmore must be selected !!

Post: # 1964176Post Devilhead »

We need Howard to cover McKay

Bring in Highmore though to play back and release Sincs into the midfield

Backline of

Paton Howard Webster
Highmore Battle Wilkie


The Devil makes work for idle hands!!!
B.M
Saintsational Legend
Posts: 12750
Joined: Thu 04 Jul 2019 8:53pm
Has thanked: 5 times
Been thanked: 2718 times

Re: FFS, Tom Highmore must be selected !!

Post: # 1964180Post B.M »

That backline has no offensive run

Out
Paton

In
Highmore


Jacks Back
Saintsational Legend
Posts: 6610
Joined: Sat 11 Jun 2011 4:52pm
Location: Here
Has thanked: 1338 times
Been thanked: 467 times

Re: FFS, Tom Highmore must be selected !!

Post: # 1964183Post Jacks Back »

What about if Battle goes forward, chops out in the ruck and then Highmore can come in down back? That's if Ryder is not playing.


As ex-president Peter Summers said:
“If we are going to be a contender, we may as well plan to win the bloody thing.”


St Kilda - At least we have a Crest!
User avatar
Devilhead
Saintsational Legend
Posts: 8393
Joined: Mon 08 Mar 2004 11:56pm
Has thanked: 139 times
Been thanked: 1174 times

Re: FFS, Tom Highmore must be selected !!

Post: # 1964185Post Devilhead »

B.M wrote: Tue 28 Jun 2022 10:11pm That backline has no offensive run

Out
Paton

In
Highmore
Webster Paton and Wilkie can all run .... Sinclair/Clark to play as defensive mids (alternating) to give more run


The Devil makes work for idle hands!!!
User avatar
Devilhead
Saintsational Legend
Posts: 8393
Joined: Mon 08 Mar 2004 11:56pm
Has thanked: 139 times
Been thanked: 1174 times

Re: FFS, Tom Highmore must be selected !!

Post: # 1964188Post Devilhead »

Out - Butler Byrnes Long Wanganeen

In - Ryder Hill Higgins Highmore

FB - Paton Howard Webster
HB - Highmore Battle Wilkie
C - Hill Crouch Ross
HF - Membrey Sharman Billings
F- Higgins King Gresh
Foll - Ryder Steele Sinclair
Int - Marshall, Clark, Jones Windhager,
Sub - Wood

Sincs & Clark to play defensive mid roles

Gresh to pinch hit through the middle and alsong with Steele to play an offensive mid role

Ross & Jones can also swing through the midfield

Wood is versatile as the med sub with running power

Ryder Marshall and Sharman can alternate ruck duties and alternate forward - more Ryder Marshall though in ruck
Last edited by Devilhead on Tue 28 Jun 2022 11:23pm, edited 3 times in total.


The Devil makes work for idle hands!!!
User avatar
Wayne42
Saintsational Legend
Posts: 4911
Joined: Mon 24 Jun 2013 10:27pm
Has thanked: 619 times
Been thanked: 558 times

Re: FFS, Tom Highmore must be selected !!

Post: # 1964189Post Wayne42 »

Latest injury report on Dmac...
McKenzie is set to miss another week after hurting his calf at training late last week ahead of his return game against Sydney.


The Saints are under review, will it make any difference to the underachievers ?
User avatar
Devilhead
Saintsational Legend
Posts: 8393
Joined: Mon 08 Mar 2004 11:56pm
Has thanked: 139 times
Been thanked: 1174 times

Re: FFS, Tom Highmore must be selected !!

Post: # 1964190Post Devilhead »

Sorry forgot Ross up above (have edited it) .... onto wing with Dmac unavailable ........ of course once DMac ia available then Windhager out for DMac
Last edited by Devilhead on Tue 28 Jun 2022 11:22pm, edited 1 time in total.


The Devil makes work for idle hands!!!
User avatar
Devilhead
Saintsational Legend
Posts: 8393
Joined: Mon 08 Mar 2004 11:56pm
Has thanked: 139 times
Been thanked: 1174 times

Re: FFS, Tom Highmore must be selected !!

Post: # 1964192Post Devilhead »

We have to make Docherty and Saad accountable and we can do this by playing on quickly from our back half which will keep those two 2nd guessing about creeping forward and force them to be accountable if we start to get on top ..... we need to play some risky football and also look whenever absolutely possible to keep our forward structure .... Blues weakness is their backline

Also we have to defend the in out ball spread better from congestion ... don't get sucked in ..... we need to structure up to stop the ball being cleared from a stoppage easily by hand to the outside .... if we can force them to hack kick from stoppage then turnovers will happen


The Devil makes work for idle hands!!!
User avatar
meher baba
Saintsational Legend
Posts: 7223
Joined: Mon 14 Aug 2006 6:49am
Location: Tasmania
Has thanked: 1 time
Been thanked: 516 times

Re: FFS, Tom Highmore must be selected !!

Post: # 1964199Post meher baba »

B.M wrote: Tue 28 Jun 2022 10:11pm That backline has no offensive run

Out
Paton

In
Highmore
That’s the only viable way of bringing Highmore into the side, if it’s considered essential for some reason. The idea of dropping Howard for Highmore would be suicidal IMO.

I realise it’s a tough message for many fans to hear, but Highmore - although he is a much better player than, say, Sharman - isn’t the solution to any of our current problems. We lost the game against the Swans up forward, not down back. That’s why Higgins and Wood are in contention.


"It is useless to attempt to reason a man out of a thing he was never reasoned into."
- Jonathan Swift
spert
Saintsational Legend
Posts: 9151
Joined: Wed 29 Jun 2005 10:39pm
Location: A distant beach
Has thanked: 1 time
Been thanked: 438 times

Re: FFS, Tom Highmore must be selected !!

Post: # 1964208Post spert »

meher baba wrote: Wed 29 Jun 2022 1:01am
B.M wrote: Tue 28 Jun 2022 10:11pm That backline has no offensive run

Out
Paton

In
Highmore
That’s the only viable way of bringing Highmore into the side, if it’s considered essential for some reason. The idea of dropping Howard for Highmore would be suicidal IMO.

I realise it’s a tough message for many fans to hear, but Highmore - although he is a much better player than, say, Sharman - isn’t the solution to any of our current problems. We lost the game against the Swans up forward, not down back. That’s why Higgins and Wood are in contention.
I reckon we lost the Swans game more in middle, even though the forwards didn't click, our mids who did get the ball, just didn't do anything with it, didn't help the forwards or defence, or just bombed. We cant' seriously have a forward line though where the FF wont lead, one of the key forwards is inexperienced, never plays in the ruck and is played in the ruck, and another experienced forward is running into the backline taking marks, and a crumber who has forgotten how to crumb. FFS Ratts get it right.


terry smith rules
SS Life Member
Posts: 2540
Joined: Mon 27 Jun 2005 1:27pm
Location: Abiding
Has thanked: 173 times
Been thanked: 385 times

Re: FFS, Tom Highmore must be selected !!

Post: # 1964217Post terry smith rules »

I think Byrnes and NWM stay in side

Byrnes, disposal was not always great, but seemed one of the few willing to take game on and look first into the corridor

NWM led the team in metres gained, yes he missed a couple of passes, but again looks to take game on

I would like to see Highmore in and Battle go forward, so Sharman out (he may become a good player but at the moment no)

For mine Jones is an out, I am over his not recognising his limitations, seems to always try to do to much


" A few will never give up on you. When you go back out on the field, those are the people I want in your minds. Those are the people I want in your hearts."

— Coach Eric Taylor - Friday Night Lights
Vortex
Saintsational Legend
Posts: 6473
Joined: Fri 18 Sep 2020 6:51am
Has thanked: 862 times
Been thanked: 1025 times

Re: FFS, Tom Highmore must be selected !!

Post: # 1964218Post Vortex »

Devilhead wrote: Tue 28 Jun 2022 10:33pm Out - Butler Byrnes Long Wanganeen

In - Ryder Hill Higgins Highmore

FB - Paton Howard Webster
HB - Highmore Battle Wilkie
C - Hill Crouch Ross
HF - Membrey Sharman Billings
F- Higgins King Gresh
Foll - Ryder Steele Sinclair
Int - Marshall, Clark, Jones Windhager,
Sub - Wood

Sincs & Clark to play defensive mid roles

Gresh to pinch hit through the middle and alsong with Steele to play an offensive mid role

Ross & Jones can also swing through the midfield

Wood is versatile as the med sub with running power

Ryder Marshall and Sharman can alternate ruck duties and alternate forward - more Ryder Marshall though in ruck
It's highly unlikely Sharman will play and I don't think he'll ever attend a ruck contest again. Watching him contest ruck contests against the Swans was one of the more embarrassing things I've seen on an AFL field for a while.

Needs to spend a fair bit of time at Sandy to develop.


nostalgicsaint
Club Player
Posts: 1077
Joined: Mon 20 Jan 2020 7:38am
Has thanked: 64 times
Been thanked: 318 times

Re: FFS, Tom Highmore must be selected !!

Post: # 1964232Post nostalgicsaint »

On the train so having a look

FB - Wilkie, Howard Webster
HB - Sinclair Battle Highmore
C - Hill Crouch Milera
HF - Membrey Sharman Billings
F- Marshall King Butler
Foll - Ryder Steele Gresh
Int - Ross, Clark, Windhager, Jones
Sub - Long/Higgins

In Ryder, Hill, Highmore
Out Byrnes, Paton, Long

Byrnes out because of footskills and lack of tackling. Jones the other one considered.

Don't mind going a bit taller, our structure was at its best when we had Hayes in the side and sharman is not a genuine tall anyway.

Paton hasn't been in amazing form and is unlucky highmore has been banging down the door.

Hill brings some better ball use.


Players on notice.
Jones- skills/decision making
Billings- must keep bringing the work rate, better last week
Butler- must continue to kick at least a goal a game and keep bringing the pressure
Sharman- backing him in at the moment but needs a bigger game soon
Gresh- unlikely to be dropped but needs to take the more obvious option more often


Disclaimer: posts are my views and shouldn't be taken as fact, even if I am in fact right.
Post Reply