Dunno why you say that. He's one of the better umpires in my view, although not in the AFL panel's given his lack of finals. He doesn't pay "weak" frees - like a finger on the neck or dives or 1 cm over the mark. Every AFL umpire would have barracked for a team when he or she was young and barracking is a stronger bond than playing.Sainter_Dad wrote: ↑Fri 22 Apr 2022 11:57pm Leigh Fisher should NEVER have umpired a single St Kilda game - EVER - the optics are wrong
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Seems some umpires are boycotting the arms up rule and others are too hair trigger.
Will have to be modified to a workable model but there will be pain because Scott won't back down or compromise by himself.
Even the umpires paying such frees seem uncomfortable doing it. They know its not a part of AFL but a figment of Scott's imagination brought real.
There will be a big game involving "big" teams and a big name and it will come to a head as one of the arms moved frees obviously decides the game (they all do have effect of course but macro cause/outcome not immediately obvious).
If the players, umpires, fans and media are all strongly against the hands rule it will have to go. And I think we are at that point. Its the AFL holding out.
The sad irony is the rule is having the opposite effect from what was intended. Who wants to be an umpire paying frees because a player shows emotion. Other than Ray and a few sadists.
No one I imagine, even Scott and umpire concerned, is arguing the umpire that paid the free against McKenzie actually felt their authority or integrity was threatened by him suggesting the ball was not marked cleanly, that it hit the ground first. Will players no longer be able to yell touched from the goal square?
Will have to be modified to a workable model but there will be pain because Scott won't back down or compromise by himself.
Even the umpires paying such frees seem uncomfortable doing it. They know its not a part of AFL but a figment of Scott's imagination brought real.
There will be a big game involving "big" teams and a big name and it will come to a head as one of the arms moved frees obviously decides the game (they all do have effect of course but macro cause/outcome not immediately obvious).
If the players, umpires, fans and media are all strongly against the hands rule it will have to go. And I think we are at that point. Its the AFL holding out.
The sad irony is the rule is having the opposite effect from what was intended. Who wants to be an umpire paying frees because a player shows emotion. Other than Ray and a few sadists.
No one I imagine, even Scott and umpire concerned, is arguing the umpire that paid the free against McKenzie actually felt their authority or integrity was threatened by him suggesting the ball was not marked cleanly, that it hit the ground first. Will players no longer be able to yell touched from the goal square?
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As predicted:
“The AFL had made no official confirmation about changes to the dissent rule”.
https://apple.news/A-HTuwWsRSWuddkspOVG9Ug
“The AFL had made no official confirmation about changes to the dissent rule”.
https://apple.news/A-HTuwWsRSWuddkspOVG9Ug
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Re: Umpiring
It was, and remains, a ridiculous rule.SaintPav wrote: ↑Tue 07 Jun 2022 2:52pm As predicted:
“The AFL had made no official confirmation about changes to the dissent rule”.
https://apple.news/A-HTuwWsRSWuddkspOVG9Ug
No team should ever benefit from an oppositions interaction with an umpire. Should never be a free and never be a 50m penalty.
If the umpire is sworn at or feels threatened, then a report is warranted.
Penalties could be $2k for the player and $5k for the club. Doubled for each repeat offence. So that if a 2nd player offends for the club it's $2k to that player and $10k for the club.
The umpire would want to be sure as they're mic'd up so the exchange will be captured on record.