Team v Brisbane
Moderators: Saintsational Administrators, Saintsational Moderators
-
- SS Life Member
- Posts: 3385
- Joined: Wed 12 Sep 2007 5:30pm
- Has thanked: 172 times
- Been thanked: 519 times
Team v Brisbane
Great position to be in with pressure form below:
Out: Sharman, Windy
In: Butler, Clark
Sharman while kicking a goal a game to me leaves us a little top heavy ( Marshall, King, Membrey) and i felt at times when the ball hit the deck north were able to exit easily. Structure up the ground saw it come back. Butler kicked 5 in the VFL and had a lot of it. I Like the kid but dont think he has done enough to retain a spot above Butler ATM
I felt Long was the main pressure forward and without Higgins and Butler it was a little too easy at times - Brisbane being able to leave the forward 50 easily will be an issue.
Clark probably would have played if not for Covid. He is a class player and in best 22 and needs to start building a base of games at AFL level. The younger guys will need rotations - as has already occurred. Yes off the bye so not the case her and I don't think he has done anything wrong but Clark needs to start playing AFL level and Windy seems the obvious change.
Pressure from below in the form of Brynnes ( becoming the Andy Bichel of Stkilda this season), Highmore, Billings. Lienert
Covid and injury will pop up. Paton has been exposed a little but very difficult to change the 3rd best defence in the AFL
Working on like for like then i don't see any changes - however i didn't see Billings out either so clearly coaches look at things we don't.
Out: Sharman, Windy
In: Butler, Clark
Sharman while kicking a goal a game to me leaves us a little top heavy ( Marshall, King, Membrey) and i felt at times when the ball hit the deck north were able to exit easily. Structure up the ground saw it come back. Butler kicked 5 in the VFL and had a lot of it. I Like the kid but dont think he has done enough to retain a spot above Butler ATM
I felt Long was the main pressure forward and without Higgins and Butler it was a little too easy at times - Brisbane being able to leave the forward 50 easily will be an issue.
Clark probably would have played if not for Covid. He is a class player and in best 22 and needs to start building a base of games at AFL level. The younger guys will need rotations - as has already occurred. Yes off the bye so not the case her and I don't think he has done anything wrong but Clark needs to start playing AFL level and Windy seems the obvious change.
Pressure from below in the form of Brynnes ( becoming the Andy Bichel of Stkilda this season), Highmore, Billings. Lienert
Covid and injury will pop up. Paton has been exposed a little but very difficult to change the 3rd best defence in the AFL
Working on like for like then i don't see any changes - however i didn't see Billings out either so clearly coaches look at things we don't.
- Waltzing St Kilda
- SS Hall of Fame
- Posts: 2180
- Joined: Sun 14 Mar 2010 5:20am
- Location: Melbourne
- Has thanked: 2 times
- Been thanked: 364 times
Re: Team v Brisbane
Ratts at the presser pining that the reserves don't play next week suggests to me that he's not going to bring Clark back yet.
-
- SS Life Member
- Posts: 2787
- Joined: Sun 25 Apr 2021 9:43pm
- Has thanked: 707 times
- Been thanked: 784 times
Re: Team v Brisbane
Doubt Clark comes straight back in after Covid and no footy for a fortnight
The Artist formerly known as Fugazi
- skeptic
- Saintsational Legend
- Posts: 17052
- Joined: Wed 10 Mar 2004 7:10pm
- Has thanked: 3664 times
- Been thanked: 2927 times
Re: Team v Brisbane
A lot of love for Butler and obviously 5 goals on the w/e didn’t hurt his chances but he’s down the pecking order a bit for me.
Had a lot of chances and is prone to being unable to exert himself into games a little too often for my liking.
Not in delist territory by any means but for me, he’s fallen behind Long, Higgins and Sharman for the time being.
Higgins looks to be the best of the list in terms of ceiling… Coops has the most improvement and could really be a point of difference… and Long stays as he turns up every week in terms of effort
Had a lot of chances and is prone to being unable to exert himself into games a little too often for my liking.
Not in delist territory by any means but for me, he’s fallen behind Long, Higgins and Sharman for the time being.
Higgins looks to be the best of the list in terms of ceiling… Coops has the most improvement and could really be a point of difference… and Long stays as he turns up every week in terms of effort
-
- Saintsational Legend
- Posts: 6092
- Joined: Sat 12 Sep 2015 1:03pm
- Has thanked: 337 times
- Been thanked: 1570 times
-
- SS Life Member
- Posts: 2841
- Joined: Fri 23 Sep 2011 4:24pm
- Location: Australia
- Has thanked: 774 times
- Been thanked: 871 times
Re: Team v Brisbane
I am sure the real selectors will have everything under consideration and won't be rushing to make rash decisions.
Especially when the Brisbane game is two weeks away!
Especially when the Brisbane game is two weeks away!
Saint supporter since '62
- WellardSaint
- Saintsational Legend
- Posts: 8394
- Joined: Sat 26 May 2012 11:25am
- Location: Perth- the best weather in Oz, but the worst rednecks.
- Has thanked: 1913 times
- Been thanked: 890 times
Re: Team v Brisbane
The game's 2 weeks away
I worry about Clark with his impact injuries.
Others have said he doesn't appear to have developed more muscle and looks fragile
I worry about Clark with his impact injuries.
Others have said he doesn't appear to have developed more muscle and looks fragile
A real Sainter will pledge allegiance to the ❤ and despise the Pies, the Blues, and the Injectors.
Remember one of the 10 Commandments : Thou shalt have no other team before thee
Remember one of the 10 Commandments : Thou shalt have no other team before thee
- kosifantutti
- Saintsational Legend
- Posts: 8584
- Joined: Fri 21 Jan 2005 9:06am
- Location: Back in town
- Has thanked: 527 times
- Been thanked: 1534 times
Re: Team v Brisbane
Our next game is after the bye.
Macquarie Dictionary Word of the Year for 2023 "Kosi Lives"
- meher baba
- Saintsational Legend
- Posts: 7223
- Joined: Mon 14 Aug 2006 6:49am
- Location: Tasmania
- Has thanked: 1 time
- Been thanked: 516 times
Re: Team v Brisbane
If it comes down to a choice between Butler and Higgins, then sadly I reckon it has to be Butler.
Brisbane is a whole different proposition to Adelaide or North Melbourne. If we can't apply enough forward pressure, they will continually explode out of their backline.
So, for mine, definitely Sharman out and Butler in.
Clark for Windhager is also a reasonable call, if Clark is deemed ready to go. Then there's Billings, who went well for Sandy. And Higgins needs to be fitted back in somehow sooner rather than later.
Lots of tough choices to make. If we manage to defeat Brisbane, the choices will get even more difficult.
Brisbane is a whole different proposition to Adelaide or North Melbourne. If we can't apply enough forward pressure, they will continually explode out of their backline.
So, for mine, definitely Sharman out and Butler in.
Clark for Windhager is also a reasonable call, if Clark is deemed ready to go. Then there's Billings, who went well for Sandy. And Higgins needs to be fitted back in somehow sooner rather than later.
Lots of tough choices to make. If we manage to defeat Brisbane, the choices will get even more difficult.
"It is useless to attempt to reason a man out of a thing he was never reasoned into."
- Jonathan Swift
- Jonathan Swift
- WellardSaint
- Saintsational Legend
- Posts: 8394
- Joined: Sat 26 May 2012 11:25am
- Location: Perth- the best weather in Oz, but the worst rednecks.
- Has thanked: 1913 times
- Been thanked: 890 times
Re: Team v Brisbane
Butler got 5.1 for the Zebs, but can he get goals ar AFL level?meher baba wrote: ↑Mon 30 May 2022 8:52pm If it comes down to a choice between Butler and Higgins, then sadly I reckon it has to be Butler.
Brisbane is a whole different proposition to Adelaide or North Melbourne. If we can't apply enough forward pressure, they will continually explode out of their backline.
So, for mine, definitely Sharman out and Butler in.
Clark for Windhager is also a reasonable call, if Clark is deemed ready to go. Then there's Billings, who went well for Sandy. And Higgins needs to be fitted back in somehow sooner rather than later.
Lots of tough choices to make. If we manage to defeat Brisbane, the choices will get even more difficult.
Higgins may not apply similar forward pressure, but he's more likely to lead and mark, and kick goals, which is scoreboard pressure.
If he's accurate enough
A real Sainter will pledge allegiance to the ❤ and despise the Pies, the Blues, and the Injectors.
Remember one of the 10 Commandments : Thou shalt have no other team before thee
Remember one of the 10 Commandments : Thou shalt have no other team before thee
-
- Saintsational Legend
- Posts: 5124
- Joined: Tue 13 Jun 2017 1:16pm
- Has thanked: 1458 times
- Been thanked: 1525 times
-
- Club Player
- Posts: 1423
- Joined: Thu 22 Apr 2004 5:35am
- Location: Done with MN. Happily retired in Vic.
- Has thanked: 1309 times
- Been thanked: 239 times
-
- Saintsational Legend
- Posts: 23164
- Joined: Wed 10 Mar 2004 3:53pm
- Has thanked: 9113 times
- Been thanked: 3951 times
-
- Saintsational Legend
- Posts: 18655
- Joined: Thu 11 Mar 2004 1:36am
- Has thanked: 1994 times
- Been thanked: 873 times
Re: Team v Brisbane
I’d get Clark, Higgins and (maybe, possibly) Billings into the side if match fit (which probably Clark and Higgins may not be).
-
- SS Hall of Fame
- Posts: 2394
- Joined: Tue 10 Jul 2007 11:14am
- Location: Bentleigh East
- Has thanked: 273 times
- Been thanked: 638 times
Re: Team v Brisbane
Brisbane have won 30 of their last 31 Home & Away games at the Gabba.
They've also scored 100+ in their last six games.
We need to be on for this one.
They've also scored 100+ in their last six games.
We need to be on for this one.
- skeptic
- Saintsational Legend
- Posts: 17052
- Joined: Wed 10 Mar 2004 7:10pm
- Has thanked: 3664 times
- Been thanked: 2927 times
- kosifantutti
- Saintsational Legend
- Posts: 8584
- Joined: Fri 21 Jan 2005 9:06am
- Location: Back in town
- Has thanked: 527 times
- Been thanked: 1534 times
Re: Team v Brisbane
We won 5 of our last 7 against Brisbane in Queensland.
Macquarie Dictionary Word of the Year for 2023 "Kosi Lives"
-
- Club Player
- Posts: 1223
- Joined: Fri 07 May 2010 3:00pm
- Has thanked: 204 times
- Been thanked: 307 times
Re: Team v Brisbane
Lol yeah but I wouldn't be dropping windy ..he is building .
- samuraisaint
- Saintsational Legend
- Posts: 5939
- Joined: Sun 25 Sep 2011 3:23pm
- Location: Outside Lucky Burgers
- Has thanked: 862 times
- Been thanked: 801 times
Re: Team v Brisbane
no Higgins mate?older saint wrote: ↑Mon 30 May 2022 6:20pm Great position to be in with pressure form below:
Out: Sharman, Windy
In: Butler, Clark
Sharman while kicking a goal a game to me leaves us a little top heavy ( Marshall, King, Membrey) and i felt at times when the ball hit the deck north were able to exit easily. Structure up the ground saw it come back. Butler kicked 5 in the VFL and had a lot of it. I Like the kid but dont think he has done enough to retain a spot above Butler ATM
I felt Long was the main pressure forward and without Higgins and Butler it was a little too easy at times - Brisbane being able to leave the forward 50 easily will be an issue.
Clark probably would have played if not for Covid. He is a class player and in best 22 and needs to start building a base of games at AFL level. The younger guys will need rotations - as has already occurred. Yes off the bye so not the case her and I don't think he has done anything wrong but Clark needs to start playing AFL level and Windy seems the obvious change.
Pressure from below in the form of Brynnes ( becoming the Andy Bichel of Stkilda this season), Highmore, Billings. Lienert
Covid and injury will pop up. Paton has been exposed a little but very difficult to change the 3rd best defence in the AFL
Working on like for like then i don't see any changes - however i didn't see Billings out either so clearly coaches look at things we don't.
Your friendly neighbourhood samurai.
- samuraisaint
- Saintsational Legend
- Posts: 5939
- Joined: Sun 25 Sep 2011 3:23pm
- Location: Outside Lucky Burgers
- Has thanked: 862 times
- Been thanked: 801 times
Re: Team v Brisbane
Our record against them over the past several years is way better than against the last three sides we have just played and beaten.
Your friendly neighbourhood samurai.
- Impatient Sainter
- Saintsational Legend
- Posts: 4089
- Joined: Tue 05 Apr 2016 3:30pm
- Has thanked: 2622 times
- Been thanked: 1078 times
Re: Team v Brisbane
I believe we will bring in Clark, Higgins & Butler. Who misses out are tough calls, but Sharman, Windhager & Owens.
-
- Saintsational Legend
- Posts: 23247
- Joined: Sat 13 Mar 2004 11:44pm
- Has thanked: 741 times
- Been thanked: 1800 times
Re: Team v Brisbane
Wow
People wanting to leave out Windy and think Butler (hardly scored in weeks at afl level) is a certainty??
For me only 2 must haves for Lions
Higgins and Clark - the rest can wait for form drop off in twos and keep delivering consistently
Who to take out?
Sadly….Coops for Higgins (I like Sharman a lot just not sure who else makes way in the forward line..)
Webster out for Clarke - Clarke can then rotate off HB with Sincs on ball …we keep ball polish out of back half and also keep class users into midfield going into 50
Knowing my knowledge the real changes will probably be
In Kent , Joyce….
People wanting to leave out Windy and think Butler (hardly scored in weeks at afl level) is a certainty??
For me only 2 must haves for Lions
Higgins and Clark - the rest can wait for form drop off in twos and keep delivering consistently
Who to take out?
Sadly….Coops for Higgins (I like Sharman a lot just not sure who else makes way in the forward line..)
Webster out for Clarke - Clarke can then rotate off HB with Sincs on ball …we keep ball polish out of back half and also keep class users into midfield going into 50
Knowing my knowledge the real changes will probably be
In Kent , Joyce….
“Yeah….nah””