Corey Enright

[WellardSaint]

I wonder if he's the one who said 'get Hill out of the backline!'

Also, our defenders, Battle, Wilkie, Howard, Webster, etc seemed to be able to gel together like the Borg from Star Trek.
Tigers got plenty of entries, but when we got that incredible run of goals, they all combined together to repel all invaders. Without giving away many free kicks.
They were rarely flustered, they didn't panic, they just rebounded it.
Do we give most of the credit to Corey, for teaching them how to be great defenders, or is it a team effort by the coaches and players? They know their own weaknesses and strengths.

[B.M]

Don’t remember seeing Enright get a kick?

[Sainter_Dad]

Don’t remember seeing Enright get a kick?

What a clever comment

Ratten did not get a kick either - maybe we should sack him and save the money

I thought the OP raised a good point and the back line has evolved - but ........

[CQ SAINT]

BM doesn't think coaches are important, but I think Corey is still flint hard, so there is hope.

[MC Gusto]

I reckon we’ve formed one of the better back six in the league. Time will tell when we come up against the better forward lines I guess

[B.M]

You’re right

Players with poor physiques are generally better!

On coaches
They are important, but ultimately the players win games

I’ve seen good teams win - with poor coaches
I’ve seen s*** teams lose - with good coaches

From a personal standpoint

I’ve played under both good and bad coaches

Neither effected how I played.

[Ghost Like]

OMG...just OMG.

Yep, get rid of the coaches & the conditioning staff. Just have the players log in to Saintsational.

[skeptic]

OMG...just OMG.

Yep, get rid of the coaches & the conditioning staff. Just have the players log in to Saintsational.

I reckon I could have done at least as well as Richo

[Killa]

Quite frankly, in conversation with the Coach he is on another planet including by referencing his support staff

Every move is documented and audited

The research and the anticipation is amazing - hence the number of support staff feeding into their computers

And, for the record, Alan Richardson and Brett have a close friendship

Clarkson, for his record, is another Langer with the same outcome as Langer

Generally players just find him too intense

In Rattan and his support staff St Kilda have the best of the successful Hawthorn model - and now Geelong

It will pay dividends

Maybe 2 years away when you list the players on our List and put the games played alongside their names - and we will add players across that 2 years

St Kilda is in good hands

[kosifantutti]

OMG...just OMG.

Yep, get rid of the coaches & the conditioning staff. Just have the players log in to Saintsational.

We already do.

[cwrcyn]

Unless we're on the inside we'll never know the internal workings. The only things we can judge is what happens on the field, and to some degree team selection.

We can see when a team is disorganised, and we can see if the required level of talent is at hand. Sometimes we see a coach back a player for inexplicable reasons, like when Richardson played Longer over Hickey.

Bottom line, though, is that players ultimately make coaches, and by extension, recruiters and list managers determine the fate of a coach even before his appointment.

[D.B.Cooper]

You’re right

Players with poor physiques are generally better!

On coaches
They are important, but ultimately the players win games

I’ve seen good teams win - with poor coaches
I’ve seen s*** teams lose - with good coaches

From a personal standpoint

I’ve played under both good and bad coaches

Neither effected how I played.

Perhaps you could elaborate a little more on what sounds like a stellar career

[B.M]

Point wasn’t about my footy

It was about the fact that players don’t need coaches to be good

But the coaches definitely need players to be good

But you would’ve got that yeah? Moron!

[WellardSaint]

You’re right

Players with poor physiques are generally better!

On coaches
They are important, but ultimately the players win games

I’ve seen good teams win - with poor coaches
I’ve seen s*** teams lose - with good coaches

From a personal standpoint

I’ve played under both good and bad coaches

Neither effected how I played.

Perhaps you could elaborate a little more on what sounds like a stellar career

Ranked in the top 20 in the nation on the AFL video game.
And on a strict diet of potato chips, peanuts, hot dogs and Coke Zero

[Sainter_Dad]

Bating and name calling - what a culturally enlightening thread

[saynta]

Point wasn’t about my footy

It was about the fact that players don’t need coaches to be good

But the coaches definitely need players to be good

But you would’ve got that yeah? Moron!

There's a poster on here who thinks he would have done a better job than Richo as a coach.

Thinks coaching is dead set easy.

Tickets...much?

[CQ SAINT]

Point wasn’t about my footy

It was about the fact that players don’t need coaches to be good

But the coaches definitely need players to be good

But you would’ve got that yeah? Moron!

It's not about me. It's just a coincidence that I thought I made my coaches look good and they did nothing for me.

[SunnyErnie]

I wonder if he's the one who said 'get Hill out of the backline!'

Also, our defenders, Battle, Wilkie, Howard, Webster, etc seemed to be able to gel together like the Borg from Star Trek.
Tigers got plenty of entries, but when we got that incredible run of goals, they all combined together to repel all invaders. Without giving away many free kicks.
They were rarely flustered, they didn't panic, they just rebounded it.
Do we give most of the credit to Corey, for teaching them how to be great defenders, or is it a team effort by the coaches and players? They know their own weaknesses and strengths.

It probably was him that told Hill to get out. We need more outsiders to come in and call out things like this.

I hope he also said that if Hill cannot play wing then he plays in the reserves.

[B.M]

Did I say I made coaches look good?

Stop making sh*t up to big note yourself!!!

I said coaches didn’t effect how well I played, I was in control of that.

[nostalgicsaint]

Sounds like you would've been a nightmare to coach.

It's not about one or the other making things look good. It's about working together to make sure an individuals contribution to a system makes the team perform better than the sum of each individuals performance.

Positions like the wing (ironically enough given this thread is about Hill) require a lot of unrewarded running to support the teams structure.

If the coaching team don't have a structure or if you have players who don't think the coaches have anything to contribute and therefore don't listen to said structures you're team isn't going to perform as well as it otherwise could.

[B.M]

Hill hasn’t played Wing for 18 months - should be

Not sure I was a nightmare to coach, I just wanted to play well (not look good) every game… and not because of a good or bad coach… just had pride in my performance regardless

I would have thought most players would be the same, at any level.

[Wayne42]

I just read through this thread.

There's a couple of minutes i can't re-use more wisely.

[magnifisaint]

You’re right

Players with poor physiques are generally better!

On coaches
They are important, but ultimately the players win games

I’ve seen good teams win - with poor coaches
I’ve seen s*** teams lose - with good coaches

From a personal standpoint

I’ve played under both good and bad coaches

Neither effected how I played.

No but they affect the system!

[oboe]

BM. You are right in a way. Players should not have to be motivated by Coaches. But unfortunately, some do.

However if you had 22 players committed to playing their best that they can, it becomes a bit of a GWS curse. Individualism does not win Premierships.

We now have a backline coach that is combining the efforts of the back six into a cohesive unit.

That’s what a good Coach does.