Paddy McCartin a Swan

[Vortex]

Should a young man with a long history of brain injuries be trusted to make the 'right' decision?

Doctors have signed off on it. I’m assuming they were unaffected by brain injuries.

Not sure you are right about that if they did sign off on it.

Was Brayshaw from Melbourne told he should give the game away after multiple serious concussions?

Yes. And Danny Frawley kept playing and Shane Tuck kept playing after multiple serious concussions.

I'm confused by your postion? So only Paddy should stop playing? Or all players who suffer concussion?

[SaintPav]

Not picking Petracca was a colossal f.uck up of the highest order.

I read an interesting theory on here or somewhere else. Can’t remember.

It went like this, if we got Petracca, we may not have got Max King because we would have been a better team and finished in a slightly higher ladder position.

It was a plausible theory though obviously impossible to prove and before anyone knocks me, I’m just trying to make us all feel a little better.

We’ll only feel better when we get a chance to play off in a Grand Final

Better decisions were required at the end of 2018 to strengthen our midfield so we could compete with the current contenders. We still may have got King too. If Finnis didn’t extend Richo’s contract perhaps a lot would have changed because (let’s not forget…it was) Cho and co. who agreed to bring in Hannebery

Lethlean getting together with his mate (which is Hannas old man) and hatching a plan to extend Dan’s career on ridiculous coin and a retirement nest egg may indeed haunt us as much as the Petracca/McCartin decision.

If Lethers doesn’t deliver by 2024. Then he needs to hand in his Saints polo like Matt Finnis

Gawd, Scollop. One battle at a time.

[saynta]

Not picking Petracca was a colossal f.uck up of the highest order.

I read an interesting theory on here or somewhere else. Can’t remember.

It went like this, if we got Petracca, we may not have got Max King because we would have been a better team and finished in a slightly higher ladder position.

It was a plausible theory though obviously impossible to prove and before anyone knocks me, I’m just trying to make us all feel a little better.

More than just plausible IMHO.

[damienc]

Should a young man with a long history of brain injuries be trusted to make the 'right' decision?

Doctors have signed off on it. I’m assuming they were unaffected by brain injuries.

Not sure you are right about that if they did sign off on it.

Was Brayshaw from Melbourne told he should give the game away after multiple serious concussions?

Yes. And Danny Frawley kept playing and Shane Tuck kept playing after multiple serious concussions.

I'm confused by your postion? So only Paddy should stop playing? Or all players who suffer concussion?

Seriously, you are confused by my position. So you say. Then, let me be crystal clear. Concussion is a life changing injury. It has led to not just AFL players taking their own lives but premature deaths of athletes in other sporting codes. It needs to be taken seriously and repeat offenders, as in multiple concussion sufferers, should not be playing.

[damienc]

Should a young man with a long history of brain injuries be trusted to make the 'right' decision?

Doctors have signed off on it. I’m assuming they were unaffected by brain injuries.

Not sure you are right about that if they did sign off on it.

Was Brayshaw from Melbourne told he should give the game away after multiple serious concussions?

Yes. And Danny Frawley kept playing and Shane Tuck kept playing after multiple serious concussions.

I'm confused by your postion? So only Paddy should stop playing? Or all players who suffer concussion?

Seriously, you are confused by my position. So you say. Then, let me be crystal clear. Concussion is a life changing injury. It has led to not just AFL players taking their own lives but premature deaths of athletes in other sporting codes. It needs to be taken seriously and repeat offenders, as in multiple concussion sufferers, should not be playing.

[saynta]

I don't think that anyone could seriously challenge what you say or your views on this subject.

I certainly wouldn't. But I maintain that the decision is purely up to Paddy, the AFL and the Swans.

[Vortex]

Should a young man with a long history of brain injuries be trusted to make the 'right' decision?

Doctors have signed off on it. I’m assuming they were unaffected by brain injuries.

Not sure you are right about that if they did sign off on it.

Was Brayshaw from Melbourne told he should give the game away after multiple serious concussions?

Yes. And Danny Frawley kept playing and Shane Tuck kept playing after multiple serious concussions.

I'm confused by your postion? So only Paddy should stop playing? Or all players who suffer concussion?

Seriously, you are confused by my position. So you say. Then, let me be crystal clear. Concussion is a life changing injury. It has led to not just AFL players taking their own lives but premature deaths of athletes in other sporting codes. It needs to be taken seriously and repeat offenders, as in multiple concussion sufferers, should not be playing.

It's a players choice and I come back to an earlier point, unless the AFL turn the game into a non contact sport I can't see how concussions can be avoided. Every club would have a significant number of players who are being concussed on a regular basis. It's the nature of the game isn't it?

Paddy is clear proof the AFL can't stop players from playing after concussion, if they were then they would have to either sack all current players who have had concussion and/or make the game a non contact sport.

As bizarre as that sounds the hierarchy of risk controls are not applied the same way they are under WHS laws.

[skeptic]

Should a young man with a long history of brain injuries be trusted to make the 'right' decision?

Doctors have signed off on it. I’m assuming they were unaffected by brain injuries.

Not sure you are right about that if they did sign off on it.

Was Brayshaw from Melbourne told he should give the game away after multiple serious concussions?

Yes. And Danny Frawley kept playing and Shane Tuck kept playing after multiple serious concussions.

I'm confused by your postion? So only Paddy should stop playing? Or all players who suffer concussion?

Seriously, you are confused by my position. So you say. Then, let me be crystal clear. Concussion is a life changing injury. It has led to not just AFL players taking their own lives but premature deaths of athletes in other sporting codes. It needs to be taken seriously and repeat offenders, as in multiple concussion sufferers, should not be playing.

Ever hear of the WWE wrestler Chris Beniot
What happened with him back in 2003’ish is essentially what kicked off the huge focus on concussions/CTE etc

I won’t share the story here as it’s pretty horrific stuff but if you google it, the circumstances surrounding his death will come up readily enough

Had the brain of a 90yo Alzheimer’s patient at time of death it was retroactively discovered

[The_Dud]

Players want to play, and 99% don't think of the long-term circumstances, especially younger ones.

Retired players have openly spoken about 'cheating' the concussion tests so they wouldn't get sidelined.

Paddy isn't your average case, I have never seen a sportsperson across any sport (including combat sports) who gets concussed as easily as him.

Sometimes people need to be saved from themselves.

[freely]

Good luck to Paddy on Saturday. Hope he plays a blinder. Also hope he doesn't walk into a goalpost or crack heads with a teammate.

[freely]

Good luck to Paddy on Saturday. Hope he plays a blinder. Also hope he doesn't walk into a goalpost or crack heads with a teammate.

[saynta]

From afl.com.au



'IF ...

Paddy McCartin's last AFL match was game No.35 in round 16, 2018 ...
THEN ...

absorb that slowly, and factor in the hardship, the unknown and the fear that has been at play in the time since. Game No.36 for him will be Saturday night, with new team Sydney and alongside his brother Tom, who was playing game No.7 in that corresponding round in 2018. This is one of the great stories of 2022, no matter what happens next."

[magnifisaint]

Forget about the guy. He doesn't play for the Saints anymore. Thanks Trout!

[Vortex]

Should a young man with a long history of brain injuries be trusted to make the 'right' decision?

Doctors have signed off on it. I’m assuming they were unaffected by brain injuries.

Not sure you are right about that if they did sign off on it.

Was Brayshaw from Melbourne told he should give the game away after multiple serious concussions?

Yes. And Danny Frawley kept playing and Shane Tuck kept playing after multiple serious concussions.

I'm confused by your postion? So only Paddy should stop playing? Or all players who suffer concussion?

Seriously, you are confused by my position. So you say. Then, let me be crystal clear. Concussion is a life changing injury. It has led to not just AFL players taking their own lives but premature deaths of athletes in other sporting codes. It needs to be taken seriously and repeat offenders, as in multiple concussion sufferers, should not be playing.

Ever hear of the WWE wrestler Chris Beniot
What happened with him back in 2003’ish is essentially what kicked off the huge focus on concussions/CTE etc

I won’t share the story here as it’s pretty horrific stuff but if you google it, the circumstances surrounding his death will come up readily enough

Had the brain of a 90yo Alzheimer’s patient at time of death it was retroactively discovered

So what did you make of the Willi Rioli case?

[ausfatcat]

Not picking Petracca was a colossal f.uck up of the highest order.

I read an interesting theory on here or somewhere else. Can’t remember.

It went like this, if we got Petracca, we may not have got Max King because we would have been a better team and finished in a slightly higher ladder position.

It was a plausible theory though obviously impossible to prove and before anyone knocks me, I’m just trying to make us all feel a little better.

More than just plausible IMHO.

So your saying a club del9berately buggered up the draft in the hopes they might get a then 14 year old kid four years down the track? You really think that's plausible?

[wally]

When I saw that Rioli hit I straight away thought of Paddy and wondered how that would go if he was Rowell .

[The Recruit]

The Petracca/Paddy pick literally gives me nightmares.
It really affects my mindset toward the footy these days.

Cannot believe it…still

Tongue in cheek but should they offer 2-3 sessions a week at the Dfrawley centre for those that can’t move past this..

[The Fireman]

That Paddy McCartin bloke goes okay

[1966]

McCartin and Hickey dominating for swans.
Hannebery and Jones out injured again.
Makes to wanna cry.

[saynta]

Paddy close to BOG first quarter.

[Ghost Like]

Perhaps if we knew he was a CHB we might have chosen Petracca.
Hard to believe Richo couldn't decide between Hickey & Longer & still forgot Marshall was on our list.

[Bowey Boy]

Yeap. Injury prone forward, move them back, different dynamics.

[MC Gusto]

Let’s face it if we’d draft petracca he would have gone wild, not lived up to potential and would have been traded for a late pick and change (player in twilight)

Cos that’s the saints

Let’s not get ahead of ourselves on what ifs cos it makes no difference with our club

[Banger9798]

He was excellent.
Typical!

[philip]

So St Kilda for Paddy to be a lock at CHF in the AA team.