Zak, where art thou?
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Zak, where art thou?
I know I'll get shouted down for this but FFS Zak Jones, where are you?
What could possibly be so wrong that you can't get on the park to play the game that so handsomely rewards you?
I heard your brother on the radio this afternoon stating that while you were "tracking well" or something, and "keeping up with training" - he had no idea when you would be able to get back on the park...??
I'm sorry, but I don't get it - you can train, but you can't face playing - huh?
Obviously I'm missing something, but what is it? is it something about the other guys? something they said? something about Ratts? something about the sound of the crowd? the colour of the grass? the cooling March air? what?
...the silence is deafening!
Ok, I might be a dinosaur here, and I may just be the last surviving one on the planet, but the way I see it, you've got a commitment to this club, to your teammates, to your fans, to be out there playing.
This clubs midfield is flat, stodgy and one dimensional, with only a few players who offer anything akin to a point of difference, so to have one of those few - probably the most dynamic of the lot, the guy who came to the club with such huge expectations, who's teased us with glimpses of superb form without any real continuity, finally get fit, and then go missing, it's bloody hurts!
I know we're all softly softly with anything where "mental health" is mentioned, and I'm a Neanderthal for daring to say anything, but come on matey - this team, this club, these fans, need you - now!
We've got a huge month ahead and the number 3 needs to be out on the park.
Where are ya fella?
What could possibly be so wrong that you can't get on the park to play the game that so handsomely rewards you?
I heard your brother on the radio this afternoon stating that while you were "tracking well" or something, and "keeping up with training" - he had no idea when you would be able to get back on the park...??
I'm sorry, but I don't get it - you can train, but you can't face playing - huh?
Obviously I'm missing something, but what is it? is it something about the other guys? something they said? something about Ratts? something about the sound of the crowd? the colour of the grass? the cooling March air? what?
...the silence is deafening!
Ok, I might be a dinosaur here, and I may just be the last surviving one on the planet, but the way I see it, you've got a commitment to this club, to your teammates, to your fans, to be out there playing.
This clubs midfield is flat, stodgy and one dimensional, with only a few players who offer anything akin to a point of difference, so to have one of those few - probably the most dynamic of the lot, the guy who came to the club with such huge expectations, who's teased us with glimpses of superb form without any real continuity, finally get fit, and then go missing, it's bloody hurts!
I know we're all softly softly with anything where "mental health" is mentioned, and I'm a Neanderthal for daring to say anything, but come on matey - this team, this club, these fans, need you - now!
We've got a huge month ahead and the number 3 needs to be out on the park.
Where are ya fella?
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Re: Zak, where art thou?
Six game suspension for illicit you know what.
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Re: Zak, where art thou?
If this is true, then I'm not sure if it helps for the club to paint it with the mental health brush.
If it's not, and I doubt it is (but it could be I guess?), then surely a little light on the subject would at least stop the rumour mill and put the matter to bed?
If it's not, and I doubt it is (but it could be I guess?), then surely a little light on the subject would at least stop the rumour mill and put the matter to bed?
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Re: Zak, where art thou?
I think the club didn’t specifically say mental health...
A number of forumites jumped on that but the terminology they used was time away to focus on his health (or words to that effect).
The speculation was/is mandated time away. This is the first time I’ve heard 6 weeks.
A number of forumites jumped on that but the terminology they used was time away to focus on his health (or words to that effect).
The speculation was/is mandated time away. This is the first time I’ve heard 6 weeks.
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Re: Zak, where art thou?
Is it six weeks or six matches as he began this “time away” about three weeks before round one?
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Re: Zak, where art thou?
4 matches for a 2nd strike, 12 matches for a 3rd strike. If that’s what this is.longtimesaint wrote: ↑Mon 21 Mar 2022 7:29pm Is it six weeks or six matches as he began this “time away” about three weeks before round one?
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Re: Zak, where art thou?
If that’s what it is there would be no need to start the suspension until round one.
Suspended players are able to train and play practice matches.
Suspended players are able to train and play practice matches.
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Re: Zak, where art thou?
If it’s true and in fact a second strike, the club should just boot him now, if not for the drug use, for the stupidity of managing to get caught twice
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Re: Zak, where art thou?
Well if returns in Rd 7 I guess we will know
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Re: Zak, where art thou?
Club mandated or league mandated? (If speculation correct.)
If club mandated, can't it be postponed until Billings and Clark get back?
If club mandated, can't it be postponed until Billings and Clark get back?
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Re: Zak, where art thou?
If it's due to using recreational drugs then that sucks.
It sucks because clearly everyone at the club is off their tits.
It sucks because clearly everyone at the club is off their tits.
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Re: Zak, where art thou?
Good questionWaltzing St Kilda wrote: ↑Mon 21 Mar 2022 11:41pm Club mandated or league mandated? (If speculation correct.)
If club mandated, can't it be postponed until Billings and Clark get back?
Are we just shooting ourselves in the foot.
His loss in centre square bounces was so obvious.
Although Steele is a better player, in some ways, Jones is harder to replace, with his exit speed.
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Re: Zak, where art thou?
Where has this guy come from ??
Poses lots questions
F’all answers and little facts
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Re: Zak, where art thou?
Whatever the case I'm just praying for that good news story "Jones back at the club and ready to play".
Would give us all a huge lift. Obviously we don't hear a lot about what's going on because it's private, but it must be a huge bummer for the players having their mate away from the club for his mental health.
Hopefully Zak can get himself right really soon. I love what he has brought to this club.
Would give us all a huge lift. Obviously we don't hear a lot about what's going on because it's private, but it must be a huge bummer for the players having their mate away from the club for his mental health.
Hopefully Zak can get himself right really soon. I love what he has brought to this club.
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Re: Zak, where art thou?
It has me worried. I’m getting Jack Steven vibes, as he also took a leave of absence at around the start of the 2019 season. I hope it’s nothing like that.
Curb your enthusiasm - you’re a St.Kilda supporter!!
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Re: Zak, where art thou?
Whether the speculation is true or not the league set up allows for the get out clause - could be called the buddy clause.
A player can self report to the club Doctor if they know they are likely to provide a positive test and say this happened sue the stress/ mental illness issues etc. and player takes a few weeks away and no official strike and not known due to confidentiality between doctor and player.
AFL likes it as doesn't have many players fail rec drug tests as this method isn't a strike. the dumb ones don't use this - like the Collingwood blokes a few years back.
A player can self report to the club Doctor if they know they are likely to provide a positive test and say this happened sue the stress/ mental illness issues etc. and player takes a few weeks away and no official strike and not known due to confidentiality between doctor and player.
AFL likes it as doesn't have many players fail rec drug tests as this method isn't a strike. the dumb ones don't use this - like the Collingwood blokes a few years back.
Re: Zak, where art thou?
You are all on the wrong track - and totally on the wrong track.
I am (most obviously) not in a position to breach confidences except to convey that Zac is very ill with a pre existing condition and has lost considerable weight.
His absence is indefinite.
We wish him well with a recovery - and a return to playing football.
I am (most obviously) not in a position to breach confidences except to convey that Zac is very ill with a pre existing condition and has lost considerable weight.
His absence is indefinite.
We wish him well with a recovery - and a return to playing football.
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Re: Zak, where art thou?
This doesn’t seem to tally with his brother’s comment that he is tracking well and keeping up with training.
If he is very I’ll how is he training?
If he is very I’ll how is he training?
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Re: Zak, where art thou?
St Kilda should never trade with Essendon and Sydney ever again!!!
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Re: Zak, where art thou?
Have I made an enemy already?
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Re: Zak, where art thou?
If its a physical health problem, then why cant he just be up front and stop all the scuttlebutt?Killa wrote: ↑Tue 22 Mar 2022 4:01pm You are all on the wrong track - and totally on the wrong track.
I am (most obviously) not in a position to breach confidences except to convey that Zac is very ill with a pre existing condition and has lost considerable weight.
His absence is indefinite.
We wish him well with a recovery - and a return to playing football.
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Re: Zak, where art thou?
Because that’s rubbish.
If he was physically ill, it’d be reported as such
The way it was reported means no one asks questions
If he was physically ill, it’d be reported as such
The way it was reported means no one asks questions
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Re: Zak, where art thou?
Ernie, you're on notice. You started out posting that you're a long time lurker, first time poster. Clearly not true.
The forum is operating really well and there's no tolerance for the kind of baiting / trolling post above that is designed to create conflict. This is your only warning. Further similar posts will draw suspensions.