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Re: Changes for next week
Just put Hayes in the middle and let him go where ever he sees fit. Small’s can feed off him and the opposition can worry about tagging him. He is big, clever, flexible, fit, strong and mobile. Thank goodness he appears to be able to handle the step up.
Paton Howard Wilkie
Webster Highmore Hill
McKenzie Hayes NWM
Ryder Steele Sinclair
Gresham Membrey Sharman
Marshall King Higgins
Ross Crouch Byrnes Wood
Owens Windy Connolly Battle
Ryder is to go to CHB after bounce as the 7th to intercept and rucks the back half
Marshall stays deep but rucks the forward half.
Hayes drifts fwd or back but plays as required and plays as a marking target from defence or blocks and intercepts oppositional rebound from defence, moving deep when Marshall comes out.
King just runs continuous lanes from the goal square to true CHF and the flanks.
Sinclair and Gresham rotate from the forward line.
Hill and NWM sweep from the backline and push forward through the middle.
Ross and Crouch rotate with Steele and follow the play relentlessly. Ross blocks/tags, Crouch goes in under.
Steele leaps tall buildings in a single bound, goes forward for Membrey to cover Ryder as the 7th.
The coach needs to stop depending on defending and set up structure to attack, much like the 3rd quarter last week, when Sinclair and Hayes got going.
Paton Howard Wilkie
Webster Highmore Hill
McKenzie Hayes NWM
Ryder Steele Sinclair
Gresham Membrey Sharman
Marshall King Higgins
Ross Crouch Byrnes Wood
Owens Windy Connolly Battle
Ryder is to go to CHB after bounce as the 7th to intercept and rucks the back half
Marshall stays deep but rucks the forward half.
Hayes drifts fwd or back but plays as required and plays as a marking target from defence or blocks and intercepts oppositional rebound from defence, moving deep when Marshall comes out.
King just runs continuous lanes from the goal square to true CHF and the flanks.
Sinclair and Gresham rotate from the forward line.
Hill and NWM sweep from the backline and push forward through the middle.
Ross and Crouch rotate with Steele and follow the play relentlessly. Ross blocks/tags, Crouch goes in under.
Steele leaps tall buildings in a single bound, goes forward for Membrey to cover Ryder as the 7th.
The coach needs to stop depending on defending and set up structure to attack, much like the 3rd quarter last week, when Sinclair and Hayes got going.
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Re: Changes for next week
Selecting NWM over the next month would be akin to selecting Ownens for R1. No more skinny under sized kids until our season is officially over.CQ SAINT wrote: ↑Sun 20 Mar 2022 1:12pm Just put Hayes in the middle and let him go where ever he sees fit. Small’s can feed off him and the opposition can worry about tagging him. He is big, clever, flexible, fit, strong and mobile. Thank goodness he appears to be able to handle the step up.
Paton Howard Wilkie
Webster Highmore Hill
McKenzie Hayes NWM
Ryder Steele Sinclair
Gresham Membrey Sharman
Marshall King Higgins
Ross Crouch Byrnes Wood
Owens Windy Connolly Battle
Ryder is to go to CHB after bounce as the 7th to intercept and rucks the back half
Marshall stays deep but rucks the forward half.
Hayes drifts fwd or back but plays as required and plays as a marking target from defence or blocks and intercepts oppositional rebound from defence, moving deep when Marshall comes out.
King just runs continuous lanes from the goal square to true CHF and the flanks.
Sinclair and Gresham rotate from the forward line.
Hill and NWM sweep from the backline and push forward through the middle.
Ross and Crouch rotate with Steele and follow the play relentlessly. Ross blocks/tags, Crouch goes in under.
Steele leaps tall buildings in a single bound, goes forward for Membrey to cover Ryder as the 7th.
The coach needs to stop depending on defending and set up structure to attack, much like the 3rd quarter last week, when Sinclair and Hayes got going.
After Hayes first game I think Paddy now needs to be viewed again as the backup player he was originally bought to the club. If Hayes keeps playing like he did on Friday and RoMa is in the team then Paddy has to sit it out.
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Re: Changes for next week
lloyd21 wrote: ↑Sun 20 Mar 2022 11:56amThanks for the update lloyd. Any idea why they decided to throw Sharman to half back???? Why would you do that?st.byron wrote: ↑Sun 20 Mar 2022 10:48am [quote=lloyd21 post_id=<a href="tel:1942896">1942896</a> time=<a href="tel:1647733108">1647733108</a> user_id=21611]
With absolute respect Sharman was 1st month of this pre season was the guy they put a lot of work in this year with King.
Then it all changed they were playing him at half back in match simulation, with some ruck work.
Wood being used as a wingman …another square peg in round hole last month , similar to the fixation of Battle on a wing
last year…
Bolt from the blue with Kent selection, Long trained really hard this summer in great shape, mysterious team
selection …plaguing team ..
Bytel had a great summer until calf tweaked 3 weeks ago…
Highmore got severe cork …but right now ..
Clark & Jones absence huge loss …Hannebery will play VFL this week , in great shape on modified program until
calf tweak..
Really concerned with the way we played on weekend & selection …not the way we’ve trained on moving the ball
And why is there such a gulf between the way they train and play? And selection.....who the f*** knows. Baffling.
Love Ratts as human being but a bit confused on approach..I attend training nearly every week.
Last year continually played Battle deep forward throughout the week at training match simulation then when selected for game played on the wing had little or no idea how to play position, just ran up and down the line.
Lost complete confidence..
New fitness guy Walsh is a beauty ..
Sharman to me early pre season would play significant role as lead up forward , then tactical deep option worked for hours
with Roughead & King ..this year ..then all of sudden it changed with the Wood on the wing experiment going back
to 3 small forwards ..as season got closer totally mystifying.
Absolutely shocked at Kent selection
Absolutely shocked when Ratts has mentioned Geary’s name in presser post loss as possible future inclusion.
Really think Jones & Clark out hurts us a lot.
Hopefully things are rectified soon , because if not Ratts will come under pressure.
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Re: Changes for next week
You will be proven wrong by NWM when he gets his chance and as the last game’s sub, his chance is coming sooner rather than later. From what I heard from Ratten, one can only imagine Owens role was to be a defensive one. Stop that s*** now. Let’s the kids play to their strength. The defend and harass at all costs has got in there heads. Get the fastest and most skilled players on the ground and attack. Connolly has been injured I think and may need time so go with NASVortex wrote: ↑Sun 20 Mar 2022 1:50pmSelecting NWM over the next month would be akin to selecting Ownens for R1. No more skinny under sized kids until our season is officially over.CQ SAINT wrote: ↑Sun 20 Mar 2022 1:12pm Just put Hayes in the middle and let him go where ever he sees fit. Small’s can feed off him and the opposition can worry about tagging him. He is big, clever, flexible, fit, strong and mobile. Thank goodness he appears to be able to handle the step up.
Paton Howard Wilkie
Webster Highmore Hill
McKenzie Hayes NWM
Ryder Steele Sinclair
Gresham Membrey Sharman
Marshall King Higgins
Ross Crouch Byrnes Wood
Owens Windy Connolly Battle
Ryder is to go to CHB after bounce as the 7th to intercept and rucks the back half
Marshall stays deep but rucks the forward half.
Hayes drifts fwd or back but plays as required and plays as a marking target from defence or blocks and intercepts oppositional rebound from defence, moving deep when Marshall comes out.
King just runs continuous lanes from the goal square to true CHF and the flanks.
Sinclair and Gresham rotate from the forward line.
Hill and NWM sweep from the backline and push forward through the middle.
Ross and Crouch rotate with Steele and follow the play relentlessly. Ross blocks/tags, Crouch goes in under.
Steele leaps tall buildings in a single bound, goes forward for Membrey to cover Ryder as the 7th.
The coach needs to stop depending on defending and set up structure to attack, much like the 3rd quarter last week, when Sinclair and Hayes got going.
After Hayes first game I think Paddy now needs to be viewed again as the backup player he was originally bought to the club. If Hayes keeps playing like he did on Friday and RoMa is in the team then Paddy has to sit it out.
Im prepared to lose Byrnes for Wood but NWM should get a go now. We know he will do well in the VFL, but he won’t muscle up or gain weight any time soo. It’s his natural body shape and he has played with men enough to have a crack. He is a catch me if you can artists, has the awareness and will have to get used to the attention.
If Paddy is fit he should play. If he isn’t, he won’t. I’m not sure why you think he would be back up, he should ruck the centre bounces and reduce his workload down to creating a wall at CHB, reading the line of attack coming at him and repelling it with one touch skills and a more than effective from no where leap. 70% game time will do.
Sharman comes in and Membrey spends time in defence. Wood rotates through the mid/field wing and goes forward for Membrey to go back.
If Hayes keeps playing like he did, he will have little effect in centre bounces, put him on the defensive side of the ruck as the centre and set him to attack mode.
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Re: Changes for next week
lloyd21 wrote: ↑Sun 20 Mar 2022 11:56amThanks for the update lloyd. Any idea why they decided to throw Sharman to half back???? Why would you do that?st.byron wrote: ↑Sun 20 Mar 2022 10:48am [quote=lloyd21 post_id=<a href="tel:1942896">1942896</a> time=<a href="tel:1647733108">1647733108</a> user_id=21611]
With absolute respect Sharman was 1st month of this pre season was the guy they put a lot of work in this year with King.
Then it all changed they were playing him at half back in match simulation, with some ruck work.
Wood being used as a wingman …another square peg in round hole last month , similar to the fixation of Battle on a wing
last year…
Bolt from the blue with Kent selection, Long trained really hard this summer in great shape, mysterious team
selection …plaguing team ..
Bytel had a great summer until calf tweaked 3 weeks ago…
Highmore got severe cork …but right now ..
Clark & Jones absence huge loss …Hannebery will play VFL this week , in great shape on modified program until
calf tweak..
Really concerned with the way we played on weekend & selection …not the way we’ve trained on moving the ball
And why is there such a gulf between the way they train and play? And selection.....who the f*** knows. Baffling.
Love Ratts as human being but a bit confused on approach..I attend training nearly every week.
Last year continually played Battle deep forward throughout the week at training match simulation then when selected for game played on the wing had little or no idea how to play position, just ran up and down the line.
Lost complete confidence..
New fitness guy Walsh is a beauty ..
Sharman to me early pre season would play significant role as lead up forward , then tactical deep option worked for hours
with Roughead & King ..this year ..then all of sudden it changed with the Wood on the wing experiment going back
to 3 small forwards ..as season got closer totally mystifying.
Absolutely shocked at Kent selection
Absolutely shocked when Ratts has mentioned Geary’s name in presser post loss as possible future inclusion.
Really think Jones & Clark out hurts us a lot.
Hopefully things are rectified soon , because if not Ratts will come under pressure.
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Re: Changes for next week
Maybe and happy to be wrong if NWM comes in and has a first game like Hayes but I'm thinking the next 4 weeks are against sides that didn't make the 8 last season and so experimentation and development should only start after our season is over. Long should take Owens spot this week hopefully Geary comes in for Kent. We need to play all the available players who have proven AFL performances for the first month.CQ SAINT wrote: ↑Sun 20 Mar 2022 2:31pmYou will be proven wrong by NWM when he gets his chance and as the last game’s sub, his chance is coming sooner rather than later. From what I heard from Ratten, one can only imagine Owens role was to be a defensive one. Stop that s*** now. Let’s the kids play to their strength. The defend and harass at all costs has got in there heads. Get the fastest and most skilled players on the ground and attack. Connolly has been injured I think and may need time so go with NASVortex wrote: ↑Sun 20 Mar 2022 1:50pmSelecting NWM over the next month would be akin to selecting Ownens for R1. No more skinny under sized kids until our season is officially over.CQ SAINT wrote: ↑Sun 20 Mar 2022 1:12pm Just put Hayes in the middle and let him go where ever he sees fit. Small’s can feed off him and the opposition can worry about tagging him. He is big, clever, flexible, fit, strong and mobile. Thank goodness he appears to be able to handle the step up.
Paton Howard Wilkie
Webster Highmore Hill
McKenzie Hayes NWM
Ryder Steele Sinclair
Gresham Membrey Sharman
Marshall King Higgins
Ross Crouch Byrnes Wood
Owens Windy Connolly Battle
Ryder is to go to CHB after bounce as the 7th to intercept and rucks the back half
Marshall stays deep but rucks the forward half.
Hayes drifts fwd or back but plays as required and plays as a marking target from defence or blocks and intercepts oppositional rebound from defence, moving deep when Marshall comes out.
King just runs continuous lanes from the goal square to true CHF and the flanks.
Sinclair and Gresham rotate from the forward line.
Hill and NWM sweep from the backline and push forward through the middle.
Ross and Crouch rotate with Steele and follow the play relentlessly. Ross blocks/tags, Crouch goes in under.
Steele leaps tall buildings in a single bound, goes forward for Membrey to cover Ryder as the 7th.
The coach needs to stop depending on defending and set up structure to attack, much like the 3rd quarter last week, when Sinclair and Hayes got going.
After Hayes first game I think Paddy now needs to be viewed again as the backup player he was originally bought to the club. If Hayes keeps playing like he did on Friday and RoMa is in the team then Paddy has to sit it out.
Im prepared to lose Byrnes for Wood but NWM should get a go now. We know he will do well in the VFL, but he won’t muscle up or gain weight any time soo. It’s his natural body shape and he has played with men enough to have a crack. He is a catch me if you can artists, has the awareness and will have to get used to the attention.
If Paddy is fit he should play. If he isn’t, he won’t. I’m not sure why you think he would be back up, he should ruck the centre bounces and reduce his workload down to creating a wall at CHB, reading the line of attack coming at him and repelling it with one touch skills and a more than effective from no where leap. 70% game time will do.
Sharman comes in and Membrey spends time in defence. Wood rotates through the mid/field wing and goes forward for Membrey to go back.
If Hayes keeps playing like he did, he will have little effect in centre bounces, put him on the defensive side of the ruck as the centre and set him to attack mode.
If at the end of the next 3 to 4 weeks our fringe players like Long and Geary prove they can no longer play at AFL level then bring in the kids.
It has to be about winning for the first 4 to 6 weeks.
If Hayes quickly turns into a Ruck for our future and consistently puts in performances like he did on Friday night then Paddy has to be relegated to back up status immediately. Paddy is not expected to play a full season, I think I heard 14 games is part of the plan for his final season? Hardly an endorsement for keeping out a player who might just be the ruckman we've desperately been searching for, and even better if he helps us wins games like he nearly single handedly did in his first game. Can Paddy, Hayes and RoMa all play in the same team?
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Re: Changes for next week
I understand what you are saying but either long or Geary not both. Long for mine, and in Byrnes place in my team would be fine.Vortex wrote: ↑Sun 20 Mar 2022 3:00pmMaybe and happy to be wrong if NWM comes in and has a first game like Hayes but I'm thinking the next 4 weeks are against sides that didn't make the 8 last season and so experimentation and development should only start after our season is over. Long should take Owens spot this week hopefully Geary comes in for Kent. We need to play all the available players who have proven AFL performances for the first month.CQ SAINT wrote: ↑Sun 20 Mar 2022 2:31pmYou will be proven wrong by NWM when he gets his chance and as the last game’s sub, his chance is coming sooner rather than later. From what I heard from Ratten, one can only imagine Owens role was to be a defensive one. Stop that s*** now. Let’s the kids play to their strength. The defend and harass at all costs has got in there heads. Get the fastest and most skilled players on the ground and attack. Connolly has been injured I think and may need time so go with NASVortex wrote: ↑Sun 20 Mar 2022 1:50pmSelecting NWM over the next month would be akin to selecting Ownens for R1. No more skinny under sized kids until our season is officially over.CQ SAINT wrote: ↑Sun 20 Mar 2022 1:12pm Just put Hayes in the middle and let him go where ever he sees fit. Small’s can feed off him and the opposition can worry about tagging him. He is big, clever, flexible, fit, strong and mobile. Thank goodness he appears to be able to handle the step up.
Paton Howard Wilkie
Webster Highmore Hill
McKenzie Hayes NWM
Ryder Steele Sinclair
Gresham Membrey Sharman
Marshall King Higgins
Ross Crouch Byrnes Wood
Owens Windy Connolly Battle
Ryder is to go to CHB after bounce as the 7th to intercept and rucks the back half
Marshall stays deep but rucks the forward half.
Hayes drifts fwd or back but plays as required and plays as a marking target from defence or blocks and intercepts oppositional rebound from defence, moving deep when Marshall comes out.
King just runs continuous lanes from the goal square to true CHF and the flanks.
Sinclair and Gresham rotate from the forward line.
Hill and NWM sweep from the backline and push forward through the middle.
Ross and Crouch rotate with Steele and follow the play relentlessly. Ross blocks/tags, Crouch goes in under.
Steele leaps tall buildings in a single bound, goes forward for Membrey to cover Ryder as the 7th.
The coach needs to stop depending on defending and set up structure to attack, much like the 3rd quarter last week, when Sinclair and Hayes got going.
After Hayes first game I think Paddy now needs to be viewed again as the backup player he was originally bought to the club. If Hayes keeps playing like he did on Friday and RoMa is in the team then Paddy has to sit it out.
Im prepared to lose Byrnes for Wood but NWM should get a go now. We know he will do well in the VFL, but he won’t muscle up or gain weight any time soo. It’s his natural body shape and he has played with men enough to have a crack. He is a catch me if you can artists, has the awareness and will have to get used to the attention.
If Paddy is fit he should play. If he isn’t, he won’t. I’m not sure why you think he would be back up, he should ruck the centre bounces and reduce his workload down to creating a wall at CHB, reading the line of attack coming at him and repelling it with one touch skills and a more than effective from no where leap. 70% game time will do.
Sharman comes in and Membrey spends time in defence. Wood rotates through the mid/field wing and goes forward for Membrey to go back.
If Hayes keeps playing like he did, he will have little effect in centre bounces, put him on the defensive side of the ruck as the centre and set him to attack mode.
If at the end of the next 3 to 4 weeks our fringe players like Long and Geary prove they can no longer play at AFL level then bring in the kids.
It has to be about winning for the first 4 to 6 weeks.
If Hayes quickly turns into a Ruck for our future and consistently puts in performances like he did on Friday night then Paddy has to be relegated to back up status immediately. Paddy is not expected to play a full season, I think I heard 14 games is part of the plan for his final season? Hardly an endorsement for keeping out a player who might just be the ruckman we've desperately been searching for, and even better if he helps us wins games like he nearly single handedly did in his first game. Can Paddy, Hayes and RoMa all play in the same team?
For get about this guy for that guy, play players in there best position or don’t play them. Experimentation has been forced on us. Marshall was an experiment. Highmore an experiment, Wilkie, Battle is Frankenstein, Sharman practicing half back and the ruck, Sinclair fwd, mid, back and mid again. Years ago he was getting pushed around, now he is a beast.
Pace, skill and being able to read the play. Just focus on possessing and holding onto the ball. Take your forwards to the ball and structure support and run around them. Teams are flooding our forward line because we let them.
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Re: Changes for next week
Ryder straight back in with Jones. Hannebery in if fit. Long and Sharman in.
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Re: Changes for next week
Drop Ryder for Hayes… lol
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Re: Changes for next week
Kent, owens, Byrnes out
Sharman, long & ? In
Long has lost confidence due to tribunal treatment which I think has bern harsh - saints need to tell him to play his natural game - even if he is just adding pressure and tackling he’s better than Kent
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Re: Changes for next week
Kent, owens, Byrnes out
Sharman, long & ? In
Long has lost confidence due to tribunal treatment which I think has bern harsh - saints need to tell him to play his natural game - even if he is just adding pressure and tackling he’s better than Kent
Sharman, long & ? In
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Re: Changes for next week
I would like to see Owens given another game. He is an important part of our future and little will be gained by dropping him. Play him off the bench.
Out: Kent, Butler
In: Ryder/Sharman, NWM
Out: Kent, Butler
In: Ryder/Sharman, NWM
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As others have noted we have hardly any players who probably can come in for this game.
Long can. But do we need 3 small forwards? We only really need 2.
Kent should be an out, and he really was given Billings spot and there is no one likely to be able to come in to directly cover the role that Billings would play. So Long it may well be.
Highmore a possibility, but we do we need another tallish back?
OUR MIDFIELD IS THE MOST URGENT NEED BUT>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
Bytel would be an obvious in as a genuine mid. But is he fully fit?
NWM could be a direct swap for Owens. Though Owens was meant to be an inside mid. In space on the wing NWM could have an easier time of it than Owens in the heat of the engine room.
Jones we are desperate for due to his pace and aggression.
So at present Sinclair needs to be moved to the midfield rotations for the whole game. The same for Gresham.
Byrnes was terrible.
Not sure they would rush Ryder back given the two long flights. Though Paddy does have family in WA.
Sharman? Not sure he will apply any forward pressure, but he would be more value than playing 3 small forwards.
Long can. But do we need 3 small forwards? We only really need 2.
Kent should be an out, and he really was given Billings spot and there is no one likely to be able to come in to directly cover the role that Billings would play. So Long it may well be.
Highmore a possibility, but we do we need another tallish back?
OUR MIDFIELD IS THE MOST URGENT NEED BUT>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
Bytel would be an obvious in as a genuine mid. But is he fully fit?
NWM could be a direct swap for Owens. Though Owens was meant to be an inside mid. In space on the wing NWM could have an easier time of it than Owens in the heat of the engine room.
Jones we are desperate for due to his pace and aggression.
So at present Sinclair needs to be moved to the midfield rotations for the whole game. The same for Gresham.
Byrnes was terrible.
Not sure they would rush Ryder back given the two long flights. Though Paddy does have family in WA.
Sharman? Not sure he will apply any forward pressure, but he would be more value than playing 3 small forwards.
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PS: Unfortunately Freo may well get back both Fyfe and Darcy for our game.
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Re: Changes for next week
He showed some poise in the latter stages of the game and he showed he had the fitness. I’d like to see Owen and Byrnes get games. Having said that, I’d like to see Bytel get games too.
Out: Kent, Butler
In: Long, Sharman
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Re: Changes for next week
Really good call like itsilverhalo wrote: ↑Sat 19 Mar 2022 9:15am I'm going to have a second go at this, I decided that we need to inject some class into the midfield:-
IN - Sharman, Highmore, Wanganeen-Milera, Bytel
OUT - Kent, Owens, Byrnes, Battle
I was weighing up Battle too and think we need, even this early, NWM class by foot (if he only gets it 5 times 4 will hit a target and he’s still ahead of Kent)
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Re: Changes for next week
Sincs into the middle a just - at least we won a clearance. I know Highmore not a direct replacement but if you fix the mid issues perhaps you take some pressure off defence and let Highmore interceptsaintsRrising wrote: ↑Sun 20 Mar 2022 5:40pm As others have noted we have hardly any players who probably can come in for this game.
Long can. But do we need 3 small forwards? We only really need 2.
Kent should be an out, and he really was given Billings spot and there is no one likely to be able to come in to directly cover the role that Billings would play. So Long it may well be.
Highmore a possibility, but we do we need another tallish back?
OUR MIDFIELD IS THE MOST URGENT NEED BUT>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
Bytel would be an obvious in as a genuine mid. But is he fully fit?
NWM could be a direct swap for Owens. Though Owens was meant to be an inside mid. In space on the wing NWM could have an easier time of it than Owens in the heat of the engine room.
Jones we are desperate for due to his pace and aggression.
So at present Sinclair needs to be moved to the midfield rotations for the whole game. The same for Gresham.
Byrnes was terrible.
Not sure they would rush Ryder back given the two long flights. Though Paddy does have family in WA.
Sharman? Not sure he will apply any forward pressure, but he would be more value than playing 3 small forwards.
What forward pressure do we lose dropping Kent adding Sharman? I’d argue he might mark the ball and kick a few and that’s the best pressure you can put on up forward…
Butler is very close to out IF we had a replacement…we don’t
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Re: Changes for next week
Even if Ryder is ready I would not bring him straight back in and run the risk of him breaking down again. Let him play a half in the Sandy practice match and see how he goes. I would drop Kent, Byrnes and Owens and bring in Sharman, Bytel and Long. I would ask Long to take Paton's spot in the back line and play Paton in the midfield. Bytel plays in the midfield and Sharman alternates with Hayes at CHF and giving Marshall a chop out in the ruck.CQ SAINT wrote: ↑Sun 20 Mar 2022 1:12pm Just put Hayes in the middle and let him go where ever he sees fit. Small’s can feed off him and the opposition can worry about tagging him. He is big, clever, flexible, fit, strong and mobile. Thank goodness he appears to be able to handle the step up.
Paton Howard Wilkie
Webster Highmore Hill
McKenzie Hayes NWM
Ryder Steele Sinclair
Gresham Membrey Sharman
Marshall King Higgins
Ross Crouch Byrnes Wood
Owens Windy Connolly Battle
Ryder is to go to CHB after bounce as the 7th to intercept and rucks the back half
Marshall stays deep but rucks the forward half.
Hayes drifts fwd or back but plays as required and plays as a marking target from defence or blocks and intercepts oppositional rebound from defence, moving deep when Marshall comes out.
King just runs continuous lanes from the goal square to true CHF and the flanks.
Sinclair and Gresham rotate from the forward line.
Hill and NWM sweep from the backline and push forward through the middle.
Ross and Crouch rotate with Steele and follow the play relentlessly. Ross blocks/tags, Crouch goes in under.
Steele leaps tall buildings in a single bound, goes forward for Membrey to cover Ryder as the 7th.
The coach needs to stop depending on defending and set up structure to attack, much like the 3rd quarter last week, when Sinclair and Hayes got going.
Do I think Ratts will do this? Hell No!!! He will come up with some other crap but after Freo smash us by 60 points the jungle drums will start beating until his inevitable sacking later in the year!!!
St Kilda should never trade with Essendon and Sydney ever again!!!
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Re: Changes for next week
lloyd21 wrote: ↑Sun 20 Mar 2022 11:56amThanks for the update lloyd. Any idea why they decided to throw Sharman to half back???? Why would you do that?st.byron wrote: ↑Sun 20 Mar 2022 10:48am [quote=lloyd21 post_id=<a href="tel:1942896">1942896</a> time=<a href="tel:1647733108">1647733108</a> user_id=21611]
With absolute respect Sharman was 1st month of this pre season was the guy they put a lot of work in this year with King.
Then it all changed they were playing him at half back in match simulation, with some ruck work.
Wood being used as a wingman …another square peg in round hole last month , similar to the fixation of Battle on a wing
last year…
Bolt from the blue with Kent selection, Long trained really hard this summer in great shape, mysterious team
selection …plaguing team ..
Bytel had a great summer until calf tweaked 3 weeks ago…
Highmore got severe cork …but right now ..
Clark & Jones absence huge loss …Hannebery will play VFL this week , in great shape on modified program until
calf tweak..
Really concerned with the way we played on weekend & selection …not the way we’ve trained on moving the ball
And why is there such a gulf between the way they train and play? And selection.....who the f*** knows. Baffling.
Love Ratts as human being but a bit confused on approach..I attend training nearly every week.
Last year continually played Battle deep forward throughout the week at training match simulation then when selected for game played on the wing had little or no idea how to play position, just ran up and down the line.
Lost complete confidence..
New fitness guy Walsh is a beauty ..
Sharman to me early pre season would play significant role as lead up forward , then tactical deep option worked for hours
with Roughead & King ..this year ..then all of sudden it changed with the Wood on the wing experiment going back
to 3 small forwards ..as season got closer totally mystifying.
Absolutely shocked at Kent selection
Absolutely shocked when Ratts has mentioned Geary’s name in presser post loss as possible future inclusion.
Really think Jones & Clark out hurts us a lot.
Hopefully things are rectified soon , because if not Ratts will come under pressure.
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And so he should with those ridiculous sections. Kent out and Sharman in as a forward. Plus the other 2 I mentioned in the OP (if available)
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Re: Changes for next week
Kent, Butler & Byrnes out all were even by our standards woeful. Go back to Sandy & give us a reason for you to be considered again . Ins well that will all depends on who is available so difficult to say but I'm going with Long ,Bytel & Sharman
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Re: Changes for next week
There needs to be changes as we did not play well as a team. We need targets going forward, players who want the ball & aren't afraid to take the game on.
Paton Howard Wilke
Hill Battle Webster
Mason Gresham NWM
Membrey Hayes Butler
Higgins King Marshall
*Ryder Steele Sinclair
Int: McKenzie Crouch Ross Sharman
If Ryder's still injured bring in Byrnes or Lienert
Paton Howard Wilke
Hill Battle Webster
Mason Gresham NWM
Membrey Hayes Butler
Higgins King Marshall
*Ryder Steele Sinclair
Int: McKenzie Crouch Ross Sharman
If Ryder's still injured bring in Byrnes or Lienert
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Re: Changes for next week
Butler Howard Wilkie
Webster Highmore Paton
Hill Crouch Wood
Gresham Hayes Membrey
Higgins King Sharman
Marshall Steele Sinclair
Ross Owens Long McKenzie
OUT: Battle, Kent Byrnes
# Give Owens another run
# Try Butler down back, it did wonders for Sincs, some pace out of the back half
# Highmore for Battle, he can intercept mark and provides more than Battle who looks lost
Webster Highmore Paton
Hill Crouch Wood
Gresham Hayes Membrey
Higgins King Sharman
Marshall Steele Sinclair
Ross Owens Long McKenzie
OUT: Battle, Kent Byrnes
# Give Owens another run
# Try Butler down back, it did wonders for Sincs, some pace out of the back half
# Highmore for Battle, he can intercept mark and provides more than Battle who looks lost
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Re: Changes for next week
Owens should get more opportunities - guarantee him the first four games.
Battle was as poor as I have seen him and disorganised the defence. Lienert in.
Byrnes deserves another go. So Butler out NMW in.
Freo have a few monsters, so bring ours, Campbell, in. Wood, although okish, might have to go.
Sharman for Kent.
Battle was as poor as I have seen him and disorganised the defence. Lienert in.
Byrnes deserves another go. So Butler out NMW in.
Freo have a few monsters, so bring ours, Campbell, in. Wood, although okish, might have to go.
Sharman for Kent.
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Re: Changes for next week
What Ratts will do is drop Kent for Geary
St Kilda should never trade with Essendon and Sydney ever again!!!
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