ASHES 21/22

[shanegrambeau]

Now comes the bit where Green and Carey put on a 100 stand, Australia declare at 6/188...the England total; score, which leaves England 303, the Aussie score, to win...and England can't follow their end of the bargain...and are all out for 51 at 9.31PM

[roskilde]

Now comes the bit where Green and Carey put on a 100 stand, Australia declare at 6/188...the England total; score, which leaves England 303, the Aussie score, to win...and England can't follow their end of the bargain...and are all out for 51 at 9.31PM

Your predictions were good yesterday.

Might go and have a flutter.

Remember you owe me if you're proven wrong!

[The_Dud]

I said a few years back against NZ that Smith has an issue with the short ball, and a lot on here laughed.

He clearly does, not sure what he was trying to do with that one.

You would suspect 200 is already enough, will be another good game.

[shanegrambeau]

Now comes the bit where Green and Carey put on a 100 stand, Australia declare at 6/188...the England total; score, which leaves England 303, the Aussie score, to win...and England can't follow their end of the bargain...and are all out for 51 at 9.31PM

Your predictions were good yesterday.

Might go and have a flutter.

Remember you owe me if you're proven wrong!

Hold on Rocky!!

[shanegrambeau]

I said a few years back against NZ that Smith has an issue with the short ball, and a lot on here laughed.

He clearly does, not sure what he was trying to do with that one.

You would suspect 200 is already enough, will be another good game.

Yep.

And you know Smith's Bradman-like unorthodox thing, where he shuffles to off, opens his stance and pivots to face mid-on...ya'd think the bouncer would be a good tactic against that.

[The_Dud]

About time the home umpires started paying off!

[shanegrambeau]

About time the home umpires started paying off!

That was THE moment, snuffed out the last candle of hope burning in the England camp, which I shall now call Camp Stalingrad.

[saynta]

Gunna go down to the wire, I think.

[saynta]

all out 155 ..lead of 270.

Tell you what though, those poms would appeal a crowd catch.

[Ghost Like]

It's quite embarrassing to be honest, the 2nd innings was not the innings of a 3-0 side. It was the innings of a team that had had the rub of the green.

[Ghost Like]

It will annoy me when they try to hide behind this being a "dead rubber".

[shanegrambeau]

It's quite embarrassing to be honest, the 2nd innings was not the innings of a 3-0 side. It was the innings of a team that had had the rub of the green.

Rub of the Green ?
For sure
Green is rubbing their noses in it.

Mick Jagger loves his cricket
And write these lyrics in 1965
But apply to Hobart
2022!

Here it comes
Here it comes
Here it comes
Hers it comes
Here comes your 19th nervous breakdown

[shanegrambeau]

It's quite embarrassing to be honest, the 2nd innings was not the innings of a 3-0 side. It was the innings of a team that had had the rub of the green.

Rub of the Green ?
For sure
Green is rubbing their noses in it.

Mick Jagger loves his cricket
And write these lyrics in 1965
But apply to Hobart
2022!

Here it comes
Here it comes
Here it comes
Hers it comes
Here comes your 19th nervous breakdown

[The_Dud]

People rave about Stokes with his mid-30 bowling and batting, just wait until Green has 10-20 Tests under his belt and averages high 20s with the ball and high 30s / low 40s with the bat.

Stokes mediocrity will stand out then!

[roskilde]

People rave about Stokes with his mid-30 bowling and batting, just wait until Green has 10-20 Tests under his belt and averages high 20s with the ball and high 30s / low 40s with the bat.

Stokes mediocrity will stand out then!

Totally agree. Green if he stays healthy is going to make Stokes look like a spud. What a talent.

[roskilde]

Now comes the bit where Green and Carey put on a 100 stand, Australia declare at 6/188...the England total; score, which leaves England 303, the Aussie score, to win...and England can't follow their end of the bargain...and are all out for 51 at 9.31PM

7 for at 9:40.

Damn it you were pretty close, SG.

[roskilde]

I've sort of just had it on in the background while doing other things so I might have missed it but am I crazy or has Lyon not bowled an over in this test?

[saynta]

In the end they threw in the towel. f****** pathetic. Obviously lacking in internal fortitude or pride for their Queen and Country.

[saynta]

I've sort of just had it on in the background while doing other things so I might have missed it but am I crazy or has Lyon not bowled an over in this test?

No, he didn't get to bowl despite f****** Warnie rabbiting on about him.

[George27]

I've sort of just had it on in the background while doing other things so I might have missed it but am I crazy or has Lyon not bowled an over in this test?

Correct - a seamers’ wicket if ever there was one - but he made an important 31 in first innings and took two excellent catches to dismiss Stokes in both innings .

[Wayne42]

Glad that shite is all finished, i hope the Poms learn to play cricket between now and the next time we play them.

What a woeful batting team they have, either they have a crap County system or they are all T20 sloggers that get found out in test matches.

[roskilde]

Love seeing Beefy so salty after the game.

He's right as well the entire series was pretty embarrassing.

Bangladesh would put up more fight.

[shanegrambeau]

In the end they threw in the towel. f****** pathetic. Obviously lacking in internal fortitude or pride for their Queen and Country.

100%

They didn’t wanna come back tomorrow I’d say.
Throwing the bat like that.

Disgrace to the game !!

Test cricket?

Ashes?

Well, I still reckon an earlier declaration in Sydney we would have got em 5-0!!

Well done to the Aussies

Seeing Boland and Green emerge as stars!!
Wow.
Congrats to Cummins.

Now it’s time for footy and you lot can enjoy the fifty over stuff..

I’m not interested.

Footy for me again now.

If the season starts.

[shanegrambeau]

SEN now
Read this!

REPORT: INSIDE ENGLAND’S ASHES OF DRINKING, COMMUNICATION BREAKDOWNS AND SELECTION FAILURES
BY SEB MOTTRAM 3 HOURS AGO


A bombshell report has levelled big claims against the English touring party for how it went about preparing and playing Australia in the Ashes series.

The train wreck five-Test series may go down as England’s worst in recent history, even more so than the whitewashes in 2006/07 and 2013/14.


Joe Root was given the opportunity on SEN Test Cricket after the fifth Test to reveal any backroom drama that had brought down the team’s morale and might explain such a failure on the field, the captain suggesting bubble life had got the better of the tourists.

However, the UK publication The Telegraph’s chief cricket writer Nick Hoult has gone deeper, levelling some damning accusations at both players and administrators over how the series unfolded, both in and out of the public eye.

COVID had initially hung over the players when England were forced to travel two squads to Australia and quarantine separately, which directly influenced their ability to prepare, according to Hoult.

He described the sole practice match England could organise as a “farce”; scoreboard failures, a lack of filming and players batting multiple times turned the game into one where no reasonable judgements could be made.

Selection was clearly difficult based off this for the first Test, however the English started with spinner Jack Leach.

As history will say, that was Leach’s worst match in Australia, potentially even of his career, as the Aussies came out with a plan and sent the finger-spinner home with figures of 1-102 off just 13 overs.

However, it should never have happened, according to Hoult. The English squad had reportedly agreed that England would be defensive with Leach, and would set the field accordingly.

They then couldn’t believe their eyes when Root brought the field up and attacked, Leach having no time to settle and few backup options as the Australian top order got stuck into him.

COVID continued to haunt the tour, particularly in Melbourne, when England arrived late at the MCG after testing due to a support member testing positive.

However, Hoult reveals players were forced to undergo a more extreme form of testing in Sydney, one where a swab is inserted through the nose and down the back of the throat in the same go. It was proposed as PCR tests were taking too long, but some players reportedly refused to undergo this method, leading to the “biggest row” between the players and management of the entire tour.

In another avenue for explanation of the team’s performance, it’s understood fitness levels for multiple players dropped while on the tour. So much so, one player refused to undergo a skin-fold test, accusing England of trying to “fat shame” him. Therefore, the test was never completed on that player.

Hoult also levels accusations at Ollie Robinson, who took 11 wickets this series. He says Robinson was dealing with a shoulder injury but still went to play golf in Hobart during a day off in the lead-up to the final Test. While the quick declared himself fit, Robinson bowled just eight overs on the first day before going off with back spasms, bowling coach Jon Lewis confirming later that night the 28-year-old needed to improve his fitness.

A “drinking culture” was also a problem inside the touring party, with Hoult stating it’s “certain” the ECB will bring back a midnight curfew when COVID bubbles go, due to being unable to trust the players.

Issues of senior players being left out of tactical discussions and one player learning he had been dropped after reading it in the press are just more reasons compounding England’s failures.

In summing up the concerns of the tour, Hoult also referenced the team meeting after the Adelaide Test, where English batters weren’t able to see out the final day.

As coach Chris Silverwood made the batters watch footage of their dismissals, exchanges became “heated” when parts of the squad squared off against each other in argument.

Jos Buttler reportedly told his teammates to “be patient” at the crease during that meeting, but then was dismissed holing out to deep square leg on the stroke of Tea in the fourth Test, sacrificing any hope of a partnership for that innings.

Ricky Ponting later labelled it “inexcusable”, while Allan Border described it as a “sackable offence” given the way the Test was at the time.

England has upcoming Test series against New Zealand and the West Indies, and will have to address all these issues and more if they are to be competitive.

[saynta]

Just confirms how pathetic the poms were/are.