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Re: ASHES 21/22

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The_Dud wrote: Thu 16 Dec 2021 3:36pm Surely that's the end of Harris, clearly not up to it!
Unless he does something out of the ordinary in the second innings. Test average of 23. 22 innings, 450 runs. Nowhere near adequate for a test opener. Khawaja to replace him - or Hunt if they go for another out and out opener.
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Re: ASHES 21/22

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Harris is not a test batsman's arsehole.


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saynta wrote: Thu 16 Dec 2021 5:08pm Harris is not a test batsman's arsehole.
I've heard that. TBH, a 2nd innings 50 should not be enough to save him.


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Re: ASHES 21/22

Post: # 1935760Post The_Dud »

Calling the Pommy bowling attack ‘toothless’ would be a compliment at this point!

Glad they brought those ‘legends’ back in to the lineup :lol:


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Super impressed by Warner's knock. When he reached 30 it was already better than the knock in Brisbane. He would have been yesterday's news if I'd been selector on & after the last Ashes tour (& after the Sth African sh!t show) but this knock is a very good one.


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Re: ASHES 21/22

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Do ya think we’ll declare at a 1000 or 1200?


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Totally wrong about not playing Warner. Respect to him. Gutsy effort.


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Totally wrong about not playing Warner. Respect to him. Gutsy effort.


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st.byron wrote: Thu 16 Dec 2021 8:53pm Totally wrong about not playing Warner. Respect to him. Gutsy effort.
Do you mean this innings?
Or do you mean in general, given the arc of his cricketing life under the spotlight?


I mean, you couldn’t pick a pesky street fighter more scrapper …I like it…it ain’t pretty tho.


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Re: ASHES 21/22

Post: # 1935770Post The_Dud »

Has there ever been a bigger fizzer than ‘Anderson under lights with the new pink ball!’ :lol:

The garbage and carry on we’ve been hearing all day (and series) is ridiculous! You’d think it was the second coming of McGrath x Lillee x Steyn!

He’s and average bowler in Australia who has bowled average today, day and night!


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While England's bowlers arent going well, Warner, Labushagne and Smith are going to finish their careers in Australia's best ever top 10, after that, there isn't a lot.


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Re: ASHES 21/22

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Surely this has to be the last Australian tour for Anderson and Broad, they can't keep picking them when they're into their 40's, or can they ?

English cricket must be stuffed if they can't keep producing good or great players to take over from their ageing test players. :lol:


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shanegrambeau wrote: Thu 16 Dec 2021 9:17pm
st.byron wrote: Thu 16 Dec 2021 8:53pm Totally wrong about not playing Warner. Respect to him. Gutsy effort.
Do you mean this innings?
Or do you mean in general, given the arc of his cricketing life under the spotlight?


I mean, you couldn’t pick a pesky street fighter more scrapper …I like it…it ain’t pretty tho.
Both. Has turned himself from a T20 basher into a quality test opening batsman.


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The pommie brains trust left out their best bowler. Wood.

Must have all their earnings on the Aussies.


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It must be nice for Anderson and Broad, both fine young boys approaching 40 years of age, eating their Wheaties this morning, to know that it will be 36 degrees when they walk out and bowl at a total of 2/220 ish as England walk into death valley again.


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shanegrambeau wrote: Fri 17 Dec 2021 9:43am It must be nice for Anderson and Broad, both fine young boys approaching 40 years of age, eating their Wheaties this morning, to know that it will be 36 degrees when they walk out and bowl at a total of 2/220 ish as England walk into death valley again.
There are four things I really despise in sport and love seeing struggle or shut down.

The Collingwood Football club.
Filth supporters.
The pommie cricket team.
Their f****** balmy army.


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Re: ASHES 21/22

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Yes indeed. Ah the Schadenfreude. It aint over yet. But if the Aussies can put up 450 plus then bowl the Poms out cheaply, hard to see the series going any other way than Australia's.

Anderson in particular is a twat. Love to see someone get hold of him and smack him out of the attack. Still.......have to give respect. 630 wickets is fairly handy.


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Re: ASHES 21/22

Post: # 1935821Post roskilde »

You know I think we've been a bit lucky.

But for some better catching in the last two matches by the English the games could have been much tighter -- how about that howler from their WK?

Which is a bit worrying given how mediocre this English team is.


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roskilde wrote: Fri 17 Dec 2021 1:54pm You know I think we've been a bit lucky.

But for some better catching in the last two matches by the English the games could have been much tighter -- how about that howler from their WK?

Which is a bit worrying given how mediocre this English team is.
Yes indeed catches win matches. Butler takes Marnus first chance and Aus are 2-62. Very costly let off. And yep what a howler for a WK to drop that chance in the closing overs.
Warner in his interview last night said that he and Marnus were batting out of their crease knowing they could leave good length balls on the basis of height. He said the length they were bowling would have been hitting the stumps in England but not here. Basically he said they bowled too short. Also evidenced by the ratio of play and misses to edges.
Hoping for our boys to grind them into the dirt for about 70 overs today, declare around 500 and then come out and have them 3 or 4 for not many by stumps.
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Re: ASHES 21/22

Post: # 1935826Post The_Dud »

There's lots of luck involved in cricket, sometimes it goes your way and sometimes not. The WK dropping a sitter is great luck, but Cummins missing is not!

Swings and roundabouts.


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God really isn't an Englishman is he?😁🤣😂😇🤪


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Re: ASHES 21/22

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Woakes and Stokes going at over 4 an over....

England getting creamed....and no front line spinner...


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Re: ASHES 21/22

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How a match changes in an hour. Excellent spell from Starc, Lyon & Green.

Green could be dropped on his two knocks but his bowling is too valuable. He now has one of the best bats in the world out twice, both times when he was set. Besides his Test average is still better than that of Harris.

Mitch Marsh is a touch unlucky, he should have found this form before Australia found Green. We can't go backwards. That said, he'd be a better opener than Harris.


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Re: ASHES 21/22

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Give Green plenty of time. He can bat and he likes to make big hundreds. He will be an excellent top order test player.

Lyon is serially underrated. He's matured into an excellent off spinner. Flight, drift, dip and bounce. Say what you like about him but 20 odd more wickets and he will be in the top 10 wicket takers of all time.

16 more wickets and he'll go past Harbhajan, Pollock and Wasim Akram - all of whom were world class bowlers - and in about the same number of tests as each of them. Harbhajan 103, Pollock 104, Wasim 108, Lyon playing his 103rd.

He's due some respect and recognition.


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Re: ASHES 21/22

Post: # 1935900Post shanegrambeau »

Well, the Poms are putting up a fine fight (by their standards) . Looks like we'll be in for a well-balanced series. The balance looks like somewhere between 5-0 and 4-0.


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