Welcome to the Saints - Nasiah Wanganeen-Milera
Moderators: Saintsational Administrators, Saintsational Moderators
-
- Saintsational Legend
- Posts: 18655
- Joined: Thu 11 Mar 2004 1:36am
- Has thanked: 1994 times
- Been thanked: 873 times
-
- Saintsational Legend
- Posts: 6092
- Joined: Sat 12 Sep 2015 1:03pm
- Has thanked: 337 times
- Been thanked: 1570 times
- SaintPav
- Saintsational Legend
- Posts: 19160
- Joined: Wed 16 Jun 2010 9:24pm
- Location: Alma Road
- Has thanked: 1609 times
- Been thanked: 2031 times
Re: Welcome to the Saints - Nasiah Wanganeen-Milera
Holder of unacceptable views and other thought crimes.
-
- SS Hall of Fame
- Posts: 2080
- Joined: Fri 07 Jun 2013 1:03pm
- Has thanked: 224 times
- Been thanked: 344 times
Re: Welcome to the Saints - Nasiah Wanganeen-Milera
On this basis, Sinn destined to be the next Petracca, clearly.Toy Saint wrote: ↑Wed 24 Nov 2021 10:01pm Hindsight is a wonderful thing. It's easy to say we should have drafted Bontempelli ahead of Billings....etc
Now is the time for us keyboard worriers to go on record with our views on this selection. Who should we have drafted?
I've been of the view that we should take a classy midfielder with pace and great disposal, so I guess I've forfeited my right to 2nd guess this selection in 3 or 4 years time...
(please no!!!)
-
- Saintsational Legend
- Posts: 6092
- Joined: Sat 12 Sep 2015 1:03pm
- Has thanked: 337 times
- Been thanked: 1570 times
Re: Welcome to the Saints - Nasiah Wanganeen-Milera
Super quick, half back flanker. Suffer a hamstring strain in April, then in July, a foot injury 2 weeks after he returned from the hammy and then poor form after his return, not being able to exploit his pace and kicking the way he had done before. Good luck Son.freely wrote: ↑Thu 25 Nov 2021 12:56amOn this basis, Sinn destined to be the next Petracca, clearly.Toy Saint wrote: ↑Wed 24 Nov 2021 10:01pm Hindsight is a wonderful thing. It's easy to say we should have drafted Bontempelli ahead of Billings....etc
Now is the time for us keyboard worriers to go on record with our views on this selection. Who should we have drafted?
I've been of the view that we should take a classy midfielder with pace and great disposal, so I guess I've forfeited my right to 2nd guess this selection in 3 or 4 years time...
(please no!!!)
- mad saint guy
- Saintsational Legend
- Posts: 7088
- Joined: Tue 26 Jul 2005 9:44pm
- Location: Melbourne
- Has thanked: 52 times
- Been thanked: 367 times
Re: Welcome to the Saints - Nasiah Wanganeen-Milera
I like his kicking and balance but am concerned about his lack of contested ball winning and the fact that he doesn't seem too athletically gifted. If he doesn't win contested ball then he needs to be an absolute running machine to work into space and receive the footy and also have the ability to run back defensively when one of our players misses him and kicks it straight to the opposition.
His game looks nothing like Brad Hill's game IMO - Hill is constantly on the move whereas NWM looks like more of a stand and deliver link up player. A bit like Farren Ray with better skills but less running capacity.
His game looks nothing like Brad Hill's game IMO - Hill is constantly on the move whereas NWM looks like more of a stand and deliver link up player. A bit like Farren Ray with better skills but less running capacity.
- kosifantutti
- Saintsational Legend
- Posts: 8584
- Joined: Fri 21 Jan 2005 9:06am
- Location: Back in town
- Has thanked: 527 times
- Been thanked: 1534 times
Re: Welcome to the Saints - Nasiah Wanganeen-Milera
He’s just a naughty boy.bigcarl wrote:Is he the Nasiah?
Macquarie Dictionary Word of the Year for 2023 "Kosi Lives"
-
- Saintsational Legend
- Posts: 23247
- Joined: Sat 13 Mar 2004 11:44pm
- Has thanked: 741 times
- Been thanked: 1800 times
Re: Welcome to the Saints - Nasiah Wanganeen-Milera
I’d never wish him bad luck but Sinn went 1 pick later so we’ll be kicking ourselves if NWM turns out to be Raph Clarke ..and Sinn guns itCQ SAINT wrote: ↑Thu 25 Nov 2021 2:37amSuper quick, half back flanker. Suffer a hamstring strain in April, then in July, a foot injury 2 weeks after he returned from the hammy and then poor form after his return, not being able to exploit his pace and kicking the way he had done before. Good luck Son.freely wrote: ↑Thu 25 Nov 2021 12:56amOn this basis, Sinn destined to be the next Petracca, clearly.Toy Saint wrote: ↑Wed 24 Nov 2021 10:01pm Hindsight is a wonderful thing. It's easy to say we should have drafted Bontempelli ahead of Billings....etc
Now is the time for us keyboard worriers to go on record with our views on this selection. Who should we have drafted?
I've been of the view that we should take a classy midfielder with pace and great disposal, so I guess I've forfeited my right to 2nd guess this selection in 3 or 4 years time...
(please no!!!)
Anyway can kick so see the need but geez I’d have liked a pure mid - interesting Johnson still there so clubs saw something they didn’t quite like
Going to be intriguing watching who got this crop right
Hope we get our NGAs and a plus 1 slider...
“Yeah….nah””
- MC Gusto
- Saintsational Legend
- Posts: 6084
- Joined: Tue 09 Mar 2004 8:29am
- Has thanked: 2 times
- Been thanked: 372 times
Re: Welcome to the Saints - Nasiah Wanganeen-Milera
If we had done this trade port would’ve taken him. They were very clear about that fact leading in. They wanted him with their pickevertonfc wrote: ↑Wed 24 Nov 2021 10:03pm Glad to see he's excited our fans on this thread - that's great to see.
I'm of the contrarian view regarding who we drafted; WCE traded 12 for Port's 14 + future 2nd and I would have snapped Port's hand off had they offered 14 + future 2nd for our 11. I'm a bit staggered we didn't take it as they must have offered it to us first (for the record, I'd have taken Matthew Johnson or Ben Hobbs).
As for NWM, I see lots of positives in his game and some negatives, too. So he wasn't this high on my draft board. A bit puzzled we went for him this high.
Fingers crossed he comes on, works his absolute backside off and he becomes the new Cyril Rioli. That'd be amazing. I doubt he'll get to that level, but let's hope.
As for Owens and Windhager, I have Owens about 30 and Windhager outside the top 40 (due to his back). I think we'll get both without losing much skin considering real quality like Johnson, Sonsie, Howes, Butler, Roberts and Draper etc are still on the board and should all go before 30. There's even a wild (5-10%) chance one of those might slip to our next pick and we can get a slider plus our NGA two.
If not, I expect will take our NGA pair and say a prayer that we land Blake Schlensog, too.
We obviously also wanted him so didn’t want to miss out
I take your point, you would have done that trade because you wanted Hobbs but clearly our recruiters didn’t therefore no dice
#1 Ryder fan
- MC Gusto
- Saintsational Legend
- Posts: 6084
- Joined: Tue 09 Mar 2004 8:29am
- Has thanked: 2 times
- Been thanked: 372 times
Re: Welcome to the Saints - Nasiah Wanganeen-Milera
Personally the trade I wish we could do would be to get back into this draft and steal Johnson. I just don’t know how we do that with no future second
#1 Ryder fan
-
- Saintsational Legend
- Posts: 6092
- Joined: Sat 12 Sep 2015 1:03pm
- Has thanked: 337 times
- Been thanked: 1570 times
Re: Welcome to the Saints - Nasiah Wanganeen-Milera
We have a full book of picks for next year dont we? Trading a future second before we got our NGA'S would be foolhardy and would deserve prompt bids on both our NGA's.
-
- Saintsational Legend
- Posts: 25303
- Joined: Tue 01 Feb 2005 4:25pm
- Location: Trump Tower
- Has thanked: 142 times
- Been thanked: 284 times
Re: Welcome to the Saints - Nasiah Wanganeen-Milera
Our new boy has a very natural excellent kicking style.
The rise to AFL level won’t stop that.
He will be our next Ben Long
The rise to AFL level won’t stop that.
He will be our next Ben Long
i am Melbourne Skies - sometimes Blue Skies, Grey Skies, even Partly Cloudy Skies.
- spiral3
- Club Player
- Posts: 187
- Joined: Wed 14 Sep 2011 7:37pm
- Location: Melbourne
- Has thanked: 16 times
- Been thanked: 89 times
Re: Welcome to the Saints - Nasiah Wanganeen-Milera
Welcome Nasiah! great to have some more skill at the saints
hopefully he can work on his contested skills a bit and learn some techniques to handle close checking
can't imagine he'll be allowed to run around on his own at AFL level
really hope he ends up a great player for the saints
hopefully he can work on his contested skills a bit and learn some techniques to handle close checking
can't imagine he'll be allowed to run around on his own at AFL level
really hope he ends up a great player for the saints
- Impatient Sainter
- Saintsational Legend
- Posts: 4089
- Joined: Tue 05 Apr 2016 3:30pm
- Has thanked: 2622 times
- Been thanked: 1078 times
Re: Welcome to the Saints - Nasiah Wanganeen-Milera
I cant wait to see the occur!
The kid has in inate ability to judge where the ball will be seconds before his opponents (its a rare skill), I wouldnt be concerned about his contested game he will be a ripper!
- Impatient Sainter
- Saintsational Legend
- Posts: 4089
- Joined: Tue 05 Apr 2016 3:30pm
- Has thanked: 2622 times
- Been thanked: 1078 times
Re: Welcome to the Saints - Nasiah Wanganeen-Milera
I reckon he will be taken at pick # 21 by Fremantle - they will be ecstatic to get 3 highly rated WA kids. Johnson is highly rated but with NWM, Windhager & Owens (191/192cm) we are more likely to target a different type of player if we are to trade back in.
- shanegrambeau
- Saintsational Legend
- Posts: 5971
- Joined: Thu 25 Jan 2018 2:15pm
- Has thanked: 334 times
- Been thanked: 711 times
Re: Welcome to the Saints - Nasiah Wanganeen-Milera
Very exciting!!
What are the odds, you think, of these fellas getting a game in 2022, in the firsts? (More than just a token one in say Round 18)
What are the odds, you think, of these fellas getting a game in 2022, in the firsts? (More than just a token one in say Round 18)
You're quite brilliant Shane, yeah..terrific!
-
- Saintsational Legend
- Posts: 4346
- Joined: Fri 15 Sep 2006 10:35am
- Location: earth
- Has thanked: 1 time
- Been thanked: 1467 times
Re: Welcome to the Saints - Nasiah Wanganeen-Milera
If you trust Cal Twomey's judgement (I do), with Wanganeen-Milera, Windhager, and Owens, we will have picked up three players within the top 30 with a terrible draft hand. He's had Windhager and Owens ranked in the mid 20s in some of his recent phantom drafts. Surely, we have to be happy with that.
-
- Saintsational Legend
- Posts: 23164
- Joined: Wed 10 Mar 2004 3:53pm
- Has thanked: 9113 times
- Been thanked: 3951 times
-
- Club Player
- Posts: 747
- Joined: Thu 06 Dec 2007 3:14pm
- Has thanked: 3 times
- Been thanked: 118 times
Re: Welcome to the Saints - Nasiah Wanganeen-Milera
Hi Coaches
Skilled Outside midfielder has just been drafted.
Use his skills. Dont reteach him skills.
Dont make him into a Inside Midfielder. Or continually be on his case about winning his own ball.
Skilled Outside midfielder has just been drafted.
Use his skills. Dont reteach him skills.
Dont make him into a Inside Midfielder. Or continually be on his case about winning his own ball.
-
- Saintsational Legend
- Posts: 12109
- Joined: Sun 11 Sep 2011 2:26pm
- Has thanked: 3711 times
- Been thanked: 2580 times
Re: Welcome to the Saints - Nasiah Wanganeen-Milera
This is the AFL. It’s not high school
You can’t choose your subjects. You can’t choose when to attack a loose ball if you’re the only Saints player close to the ball
If he’s got the qualities that I think he has, he will improve on his existing skills and he will be keen and willing to learn new skills
You can’t choose your subjects. You can’t choose when to attack a loose ball if you’re the only Saints player close to the ball
If he’s got the qualities that I think he has, he will improve on his existing skills and he will be keen and willing to learn new skills
- shanegrambeau
- Saintsational Legend
- Posts: 5971
- Joined: Thu 25 Jan 2018 2:15pm
- Has thanked: 334 times
- Been thanked: 711 times
Re: Welcome to the Saints - Nasiah Wanganeen-Milera
Moreover, it will be team first. Whatever, the team needs him to be I suppose. On balance, I suppose early days are about letting him find his feet. I remember Stevie Baker. He’d be a starting mid in the old VFA, but AFL coaches told him (GT?) if he wants to play AFL its gotta be a one as a negating pest...no fetching his own ball, no Gary Albert antics.
Now we have a talent here, so I suppose more leeway is given?
Now we have a talent here, so I suppose more leeway is given?
You're quite brilliant Shane, yeah..terrific!
-
- Saintsational Legend
- Posts: 12109
- Joined: Sun 11 Sep 2011 2:26pm
- Has thanked: 3711 times
- Been thanked: 2580 times
Re: Welcome to the Saints - Nasiah Wanganeen-Milera
Is that code for ‘you don’t think it’s a good pick’ or have you changed your mind about Long since you posted this;
http://saintsational.net/viewtopic.php? ... 9#p1710169
- skeptic
- Saintsational Legend
- Posts: 17052
- Joined: Wed 10 Mar 2004 7:10pm
- Has thanked: 3664 times
- Been thanked: 2927 times
Re: Welcome to the Saints - Nasiah Wanganeen-Milera
I think the first order of the day is that knowing ball winning will never be a key feature of his game, we have to really ensure that this NMW really really gets super aerobic.
The balance between aerobic fitness and building core strength so that he can go in to a contest when and not just be pushed off… is one that we’ve managed really poorly in the past. In many instances, we taken players that rely on the zip and bulked on way too much muscle making them both slower and prone to soft tissue injuries.
The other thing I tend to notice is that we have to be really clear as to the type of role we want him playing. It’s easy to say pure mid but if he can be shut out of games… which seems likely early on if he doesn’t get his own ball, it’s not unimaginable seeming his float between wing, HBF, HFF, FP and go nowhere in terms of development.
The balance between aerobic fitness and building core strength so that he can go in to a contest when and not just be pushed off… is one that we’ve managed really poorly in the past. In many instances, we taken players that rely on the zip and bulked on way too much muscle making them both slower and prone to soft tissue injuries.
The other thing I tend to notice is that we have to be really clear as to the type of role we want him playing. It’s easy to say pure mid but if he can be shut out of games… which seems likely early on if he doesn’t get his own ball, it’s not unimaginable seeming his float between wing, HBF, HFF, FP and go nowhere in terms of development.