Welcome Michito and Windy

[Banger9798]

Not in the first 20 thank God

As usual we had to do it the hard way....great draft for us


Wonder how David King will manage to kick it in the guts

[tony74]

Happy with that.

[Banger9798]

Any tips from the inner sanctum Tony?

How high do they rate the NGAs?

[MC Gusto]

King was actually quite positive on NVM

[Devilhead]

Hey Tony any chance we go another pick after Owens & Windhager?

[Banger9798]

Watch "Mitchito Owens highlights | 2021 NAB AFL Draft prospect | AFL" on YouTube

[Banger9798]

Watch "Marcus Windhager highlights | 2021 NAB AFL Draft prospect | AFL" on YouTube

[Banger9798]

Marcus can now make a remarkable recovery from his back complaint and join Pre season training

[magnifisaint]

He'll say we needed a CHB instead of an outside receiver

[saintbob]

Do we only have enough points to grab Owens and Windhager , or will we be able to pick up the other NGA’s we listed?

[BadRossco]

There is always the pre season, rookie draft, supplementary and mid season draft yet to come, I hope they can snag a couple of talls somewhere

[bergsone]

Do we only have enough points to grab Owens and Windhager , or will we be able to pick up the other NGA’s we listed?

Doesnt that depend on where the other clubs select them,the higher the better for us I think

[diddley]

Do we only have enough points to grab Owens and Windhager , or will we be able to pick up the other NGA’s we listed?

Points are irrelevant after pick 40.
After that it is next available pick.
The other 2 blokes will not be picked in the first 40.
Even then, I would assume they won’t get picked at all in the main draft, which will mean we can pre select them as cat b rookies.
If they do get bid on in the main draft, we may let them go, like we did Biggy a couple of years ago.

[saintbob]

Do we only have enough points to grab Owens and Windhager , or will we be able to pick up the other NGA’s we listed?

Points are irrelevant after pick 40.
After that it is next available pick.
The other 2 blokes will not be picked in the first 40.
Even then, I would assume they won’t get picked at all in the main draft, which will mean we can pre select them as cat b rookies.
If they do get bid on in the main draft, we may let them go, like we did Biggy a couple of years ago.

Thanks

[skeptic]

Really like the look of Windhager... seems like a tough but smart mid. A bit of a bull

Owen is harder to read as most of his highlights are him taking marks

[CQ SAINT]

Really like the look of Windhager... seems like a tough but smart mid. A bit of a bull

Owen is harder to read as most of his highlights are him taking marks

Agreed on Windhager. There a little bit of Steele in him, potentially.

Owens looks solid, strong and courageous and has that not quite finished growing look about him and his weight has risen at a similar rate to what his height has.
The marks are the highlights.
He was 190cm at the start of the season, now 191cm and 86kg. In 2019 he was a small forward at 175cm 73kg.
Given the new marking prowess, the defensive aspects added to his game, the fact he can leap and has rucked at NAB level and has develop a 18- 20 possesion average with a high contested ball winning percentage running in the midfield, you can only be impressed by the development in 2 covid ravaged seasons.
I'm thinking he could develop to anywhere between a Jason Blake utility to a potential powerful Cripps like mid/forward who can actually kick the ball. Here's hoping.

[DJ Higgins]

Do we only have enough points to grab Owens and Windhager , or will we be able to pick up the other NGA’s we listed?

we will still be able to get these two players but most likely we will go into deficit unless they both really slide. as it stand the next pick is 21 1096. If Owens went here we would get a 20% discount and need approx 880. Our next pick is 55 now 57 worth 394 points. We have other picks in the 3 picks 60 which will be worth about 800 combined. Long story short owens will need to slide to over 40 or we go into deficit which means next years draft is impacted

[diddley]

Do we only have enough points to grab Owens and Windhager , or will we be able to pick up the other NGA’s we listed?

we will still be able to get these two players but most likely we will go into deficit unless they both really slide. as it stand the next pick is 21 1096. If Owens went here we would get a 20% discount and need approx 880. Our next pick is 55 now 57 worth 394 points. We have other picks in the 3 picks 60 which will be worth about 800 combined. Long story short owens will need to slide to over 40 or we go into deficit which means next years draft is impacted

Couple thing on that one.
Our picks are now
Picks 48, 54, 58, 59, 76 due to the sliding down after wb and Coll matching bids, so now they are worth more.
Also, the 20% discount is not the case after pick 20, it is now a flat discount (I think it is 187 points) up until pick 40 which it then becomes next available pick.
You need a maths degree to keep up with this stuff, and it changes with every pick and bid.

[DJ Higgins]

Do we only have enough points to grab Owens and Windhager , or will we be able to pick up the other NGA’s we listed?

we will still be able to get these two players but most likely we will go into deficit unless they both really slide. as it stand the next pick is 21 1096. If Owens went here we would get a 20% discount and need approx 880. Our next pick is 55 now 57 worth 394 points. We have other picks in the 3 picks 60 which will be worth about 800 combined. Long story short owens will need to slide to over 40 or we go into deficit which means next years draft is impacted

Couple thing on that one.
Our picks are now
Picks 48, 54, 58, 59, 76 due to the sliding down after wb and Coll matching bids, so now they are worth more.
Also, the 20% discount is not the case after pick 20, it is now a flat discount (I think it is 187 points) up until pick 40 which it then becomes next available pick.
You need a maths degree to keep up with this stuff, and it changes with every pick and bid.

Thanks I must have got my info from the wrong website and I only did one semester of afl draft calculations. Either way the further they slide the better.

[spiral3]

... I only did one semester of afl draft calculations

haha, yeah it's a tough course

[Viscount Jeremiah]

Do we only have enough points to grab Owens and Windhager , or will we be able to pick up the other NGA’s we listed?

we will still be able to get these two players but most likely we will go into deficit unless they both really slide. as it stand the next pick is 21 1096. If Owens went here we would get a 20% discount and need approx 880. Our next pick is 55 now 57 worth 394 points. We have other picks in the 3 picks 60 which will be worth about 800 combined. Long story short owens will need to slide to over 40 or we go into deficit which means next years draft is impacted

Couple thing on that one.
Our picks are now
Picks 48, 54, 58, 59, 76 due to the sliding down after wb and Coll matching bids, so now they are worth more.
Also, the 20% discount is not the case after pick 20, it is now a flat discount (I think it is 187 points) up until pick 40 which it then becomes next available pick.
You need a maths degree to keep up with this stuff, and it changes with every pick and bid.

197 points but otherwise you are spot on.

Depending on where they go we could be left with a surplus draft pick in the 50s or we could end up in a slight deficit.

[on the outer]

Do we only have enough points to grab Owens and Windhager , or will we be able to pick up the other NGA’s we listed?

we will still be able to get these two players but most likely we will go into deficit unless they both really slide. as it stand the next pick is 21 1096. If Owens went here we would get a 20% discount and need approx 880. Our next pick is 55 now 57 worth 394 points. We have other picks in the 3 picks 60 which will be worth about 800 combined. Long story short owens will need to slide to over 40 or we go into deficit which means next years draft is impacted

Couple thing on that one.
Our picks are now
Picks 48, 54, 58, 59, 76 due to the sliding down after wb and Coll matching bids, so now they are worth more.
Also, the 20% discount is not the case after pick 20, it is now a flat discount (I think it is 187 points) up until pick 40 which it then becomes next available pick.
You need a maths degree to keep up with this stuff, and it changes with every pick and bid.

197 points but otherwise you are spot on.

Depending on where they go we could be left with a surplus draft pick in the 50s or we could end up in a slight deficit.

Still some chance our picks could improve, three father sons still on board (woewodin, archer and Burgoyne) and numerous NGA and Northern Academy nominations that could consume picks.

[Viscount Jeremiah]

Do we only have enough points to grab Owens and Windhager , or will we be able to pick up the other NGA’s we listed?

we will still be able to get these two players but most likely we will go into deficit unless they both really slide. as it stand the next pick is 21 1096. If Owens went here we would get a 20% discount and need approx 880. Our next pick is 55 now 57 worth 394 points. We have other picks in the 3 picks 60 which will be worth about 800 combined. Long story short owens will need to slide to over 40 or we go into deficit which means next years draft is impacted

Couple thing on that one.
Our picks are now
Picks 48, 54, 58, 59, 76 due to the sliding down after wb and Coll matching bids, so now they are worth more.
Also, the 20% discount is not the case after pick 20, it is now a flat discount (I think it is 187 points) up until pick 40 which it then becomes next available pick.
You need a maths degree to keep up with this stuff, and it changes with every pick and bid.

197 points but otherwise you are spot on.

Depending on where they go we could be left with a surplus draft pick in the 50s or we could end up in a slight deficit.

Still some chance our picks could improve, three father sons still on board (woewodin, archer and Burgoyne) and numerous NGA and Northern Academy nominations that could consume picks.

That's true.

Overall I think our team has done really well to improve our draft hand and points total given what we started with.

[Saintmatt]

Really like the look of Windhager... seems like a tough but smart mid. A bit of a bull

Owen is harder to read as most of his highlights are him taking marks

Agreed on Windhager. There a little bit of Steele in him, potentially.

Owens looks solid, strong and courageous and has that not quite finished growing look about him and his weight has risen at a similar rate to what his height has.
The marks are the highlights.
He was 190cm at the start of the season, now 191cm and 86kg. In 2019 he was a small forward at 175cm 73kg.
Given the new marking prowess, the defensive aspects added to his game, the fact he can leap and has rucked at NAB level and has develop a 18- 20 possesion average with a high contested ball winning percentage running in the midfield, you can only be impressed by the development in 2 covid ravaged seasons.
I'm thinking he could develop to anywhere between a Jason Blake utility to a potential powerful Cripps like mid/forward who can actually kick the ball. Here's hoping.

Dal Santo (their academy coach from day 1) has said that Windhager is like a Luke Ball when he was first drafted - very strong ball-winner with good skills who bursts away from contests) and that Owens has had an eerily similar path to Bont ... unexpectedly grew a lot in his U18 year and moved from a smaller player to a genuine marking player whilst maintaining his midfield chops.

[older saint]

While i am wrapped the academy kids are available to get after the 20 picks gone, I think many need to take a breath and wait and see where they are selected before we start making comparisons and expecting the next Bont, Cripps Blake or anything in between. Being selected by another team gives a better indication of where they are viewed rather than a bias in house view. If we get one in the 20-30 range then that's exciting as is a steal considering our draft hand coming in.