Wealthy St Kilda figure Gerry Ryan and former coach Grant Thomas endorse Larry Benge to join Saints board

[Wayne42]

Lyon brought in Dave Misson

What's interesting about Dave Misson is he went to Melbourne after he finished at St Kilda, his time at Melbourne didn't amount to much.

Melbourne's fitness, strength and conditioning only really improved when Darren Burgess took over from Misson.

It seems like Misson was just another bog standard Phys Edder.

[meher baba]

Lyon brought in Dave Misson

Thanks. I couldn't recall his name.

[Mr Magic]

Lyon brought in Dave Misson

What's interesting about Dave Misson is he went to Melbourne after he finished at St Kilda, his time at Melbourne didn't amount to much.

Melbourne's fitness, strength and conditioning only really improved when Darren Burgess took over from Misson.

It seems like Misson was just another bog standard Phys Edder.

Sydney did ok with him in charge

[Devilhead]

We were bottom of the ladder when he took over at St Kilda and the club climbed the ladder and became a serious challenger. Fact

He was a huge factor in St Kilda being taken seriously and we enjoyed a winning a culture. Fact

GT was mentor to the talent and the captaincy rotation was a brilliant innovation that symbolised team ethos. Fact

The players were passionate and loyal under his leadership. We had a lengthy period of success and he was part of the blueprint... his legacy lived on. Fact

“He’s got a really good lens on what constitutes a strong culture, what constitutes strong leadership,”

“He has St Kilda at heart. You know, you could never question his desire for St Kilda to be a great football club. He’s super passionate about it."

"So I think the motivation level is high, the expertise is really, really strong.”

Nick Riewoldt

And all we got to show for it was a Wizard Cup

[whiskers3614]

We were bottom of the ladder when he took over at St Kilda and the club climbed the ladder and became a serious challenger. Fact

He was a huge factor in St Kilda being taken seriously and we enjoyed a winning a culture. Fact

GT was mentor to the talent and the captaincy rotation was a brilliant innovation that symbolised team ethos. Fact

The players were passionate and loyal under his leadership. We had a lengthy period of success and he was part of the blueprint... his legacy lived on. Fact

“He’s got a really good lens on what constitutes a strong culture, what constitutes strong leadership,”

“He has St Kilda at heart. You know, you could never question his desire for St Kilda to be a great football club. He’s super passionate about it."

"So I think the motivation level is high, the expertise is really, really strong.”

Nick Riewoldt

And all we got to show for it was a Wizard Cup

Yeah, nothing like the runners-up trophies and McQualter, Eddy and Lovett days.
People on here are so disrespectful to master coach Lyon and all the glory he brought.

[samoht]

Indeed, whiskers.

How many coaches have taken a team from a top of the ladder finish one year (Freo in 2016) to a 16th position finish the following year?

That's rare talent.

[Devilhead]

We were bottom of the ladder when he took over at St Kilda and the club climbed the ladder and became a serious challenger. Fact

He was a huge factor in St Kilda being taken seriously and we enjoyed a winning a culture. Fact

GT was mentor to the talent and the captaincy rotation was a brilliant innovation that symbolised team ethos. Fact

The players were passionate and loyal under his leadership. We had a lengthy period of success and he was part of the blueprint... his legacy lived on. Fact

“He’s got a really good lens on what constitutes a strong culture, what constitutes strong leadership,”

“He has St Kilda at heart. You know, you could never question his desire for St Kilda to be a great football club. He’s super passionate about it."

"So I think the motivation level is high, the expertise is really, really strong.”

Nick Riewoldt

And all we got to show for it was a Wizard Cup

Yeah, nothing like the runners-up trophies and McQualter, Eddy and Lovett days.
People on here are so disrespectful to master coach Lyon and all the glory he brought.

That's why we need to look forward and not back and allow the same people make the same mistakes again.

Just imagine if GT came back into the fold and we failed again under his guidance ..... the club would pretty much implode given we went back to a known well of failure

The fallout would be unlike anything we have ever seen

FYI I don't care much for Lyon either ...... leaving Ball on the bench in the 2nd half of that GF and letting him go for free was pure negligence

[samoht]

Con Fousias said:
"Coaches, smoaches.
You get all other areas right, outside of coaching - and you will succeed."

[takeaway]

Indeed, whiskers.

How many coaches have taken a team from a top of the ladder finish one year (Freo in 2016) to a 16th position finish the following year?

That's rare talent.

Yet Rossy boy is still in demand. How many clubs looking for a new coach/undertaking a review have not been in contact with RL?

https://www.afl.com.au/news/685802/scot ... n-approach

At the same time GT is sitting around twiddling his thumbs, ..... crickets from clubs. So he has to make up a few quotes.

[samoht]

GT was busy twiddling his golden thumbs, and he's dedicated to St Kilda.

[Wayne42]

Ross won't be property steward at the Cats in 2022, he didn't like their process.

[takeaway]

GT was busy twiddling his golden thumbs, and he's dedicated to St Kilda.

Yes, that is a concern. Should we distract him by pointing him in the direction of another Tech guru, like Dominic Pym, who GT hitched onto and rode his coat tails into the neobank startup and subsequent sale, so he can make some more money?

[samoht]

repeated post ...

[samoht]

Con Fousias said:
"Coaches, smoaches. Who gives a Ratt's Tossbag about them?
You get all other areas right, outside of coaching - and you will succeed."

[Teflon]

And another thing.....

Thomas says there are problems at the club, what exactly are they according to him? Has anyone heard him outline the problems or his detailed plan on how he intends to fix them?

Nope
As always
“Just things need fixing and I’m the only man who can stuff”
As always big on rhetoric light on details and zero solutions
Apart from the obligatory “vibe of the culture just needs a culture manager “ type BS
Charlatan

[Teflon]

The main problem is that St Kilda Football club and our Moorabbin facility at RSEA Park has 1 Premiership cup

We are the only remaining Victorian Club who has just one solitary flag in nearly 150 years of our history.

Oh and GT has a fix like last time?????????
Delusional

[Teflon]

Lyon brought in Dave Misson

What's interesting about Dave Misson is he went to Melbourne after he finished at St Kilda, his time at Melbourne didn't amount to much.

Melbourne's fitness, strength and conditioning only really improved when Darren Burgess took over from Misson.

It seems like Misson was just another bog standard Phys Edder.

Sydney did ok with him in charge

Correct and we seemed to do ok with him under Lyon also
I can’t be bothered educating Mehebabblelots it’s just batshyte mind numbing the guy doesn’t even know who we are talking about..
Anyway carry on

[samoht]

I know one area that GT won't be concentrating his attention on (if he succeeds) is who our coach is and who it should be ... the perennial "get rid of the coach" quick-fix/panacea, the be all and end all that we always reverted back to whenever things went awry.
And this will be a welcome change.

[Teflon]

GT was busy twiddling his golden thumbs, and he's dedicated to St Kilda.

Yes, that is a concern. Should we distract him by pointing him in the direction of another Tech guru, like Dominic Pym, who GT hitched onto and rode his coat tails into the neobank startup and subsequent sale, so he can make some more money?

Don’t tell me he’s done it again...,,found another IT Butters bunny to prey on?
You have to admire his lecherous ways ....
That said never big on coming up with any decent on his own and still no word from the great man on what exactly is it he’s going to “fix” at Saints or how he’ll go about it..,
If I was the dentist I’d hang on to my wallet with Grant around..,

[Teflon]

I know one area that GT won't be concentrating his attention on (if he succeeds) is who our coach is and who it should be ... the perennial "get rid of the coach" quick-fix/panacea, the be all and end all that we always reverted back to whenever things went awry.
And this will be a welcome change.

Yes....yes...cause the Blight charge he lead was Uber successful...
Perhaps best you stick to coaches smoaches type stuff

[Teflon]

Indeed, whiskers.

How many coaches have taken a team from a top of the ladder finish one year (Freo in 2016) to a 16th position finish the following year?

That's rare talent.

Yet Rossy boy is still in demand. How many clubs looking for a new coach/undertaking a review have not been in contact with RL?

https://www.afl.com.au/news/685802/scot ... n-approach

At the same time GT is sitting around twiddling his thumbs, ..... crickets from clubs. So he has to make up a few quotes.

Love it when this is pointed out to the Grant sycophants and all you get back is...,
“Yeah....but ...GT has just been really busy....and he only wants to help Saints...” lucky us!! Shane he can’t put his money where his mouth is!!
Lyon will end up back in club land
GT renting “bag Saints quotes” via media to the highest bidder.
Here’s a little test: how often does Thomas come out and say the club does anything right?????????????
No Board positions in doing that...

[samoht]

Butterss was to blame for that fiasco.

"However, as early as February 2003, Butterss had admitted that his appointment of Blight as coach was "an error."[25] In August 2017, Butterss further admitted that he'd made crucial decisions (including the Blight saga) while under the influence of drugs and alcohol during his tenure at the club.[26]"

Grant Thomas became caretaker coach and then full time coach after Blight was sacked. GT steadied the ship.

But this isn't about coaches - and I believe coaches are a nil-all-draw, anyway.

What was wrong with Sheldon - I'd prefer if he still coached and we got all the important areas right over the years.

[Mr Magic]

Butterss was to blame for that fiasco.

"However, as early as February 2003, Butterss had admitted that his appointment of Blight as coach was "an error."[25] In August 2017, Butterss further admitted that he'd made crucial decisions (including the Blight saga) while under the influence of drugs and alcohol during his tenure at the club.[26]"

Grant Thomas became caretaker coach and then full time coach after Blight was sacked. GT steadied the ship.

But this isn't about coaches - and I believe coaches are a nil-all-draw, anyway.

The buck stopped with Butters - he was the President and in the end he ratified the decision to appoint Blight.
He also ratified the decision to sack him.
BUT, and it's a big but, he put his hand in his own pocket (along with another - not GT) and paid Blight out so that the Club was not disadvantaged financially by the sacking.
And who was the person in charge of football matters who recommended hiring Blight and then sacking him?

I'm absolutely amazed by the zealous positions so many on here take about Thomas/Lyon.
Nobody is perfect, including them.
They both had good/bad points going for them.

[samoht]

I agree - coaches are irrelevant. That's what I've been trying to argue.

I think our club needs to start realising this - and getting all the more important areas right such as recruiting and development.
The coaches whoever they are need resources.

We need change - I don't care if it's ultimately GT who's behind it or whoever else it is that leads the change - because our go-to is to sack coaches instead of giving them the best chance to succeed.

[Shaggy]

Ofcourse 2022 is make it break - with Clarkson there I think it’s critical for Ratten especially to have a good year
Ofcourse it’s good corporate practice to update your board with talent
Question for you is;
1. Larry the dentist appears to have eff all credentials other than big mouth piece backers
2. Do you think dragging the club through the media gutter is the “professional Board” member material we need ???
Good clubs don’t do that.
We are headed straight back to the days of the club being run by “white knight” individuals....it’s 80’s stuff and when these so called “fixers” have had their play we’ll be left to pick up the pieces ....only this time from Tasmania where perhaps (if we allow this trash into our club) we deserve to be.

Of course you could not accept someone GT endorses because of your personal vendetta.

But this thread should be about Gerry Ryan’s endorsement of the dentist not GT. You have made it about GT.

Gerry Ryan is our white knight. He has stood by us through thick and thin and loves the Saints.

Gerry Ryan is not merely a rich man with Javco. He started a world sport’s brand from scratch with Greenedge. He became part owner and Board member of Melbourne Storm after the salary cap scandal and they have won 3 flags since. It was not an accident Billy Slater joined us funded by Gerry. He saved Sandringham from folding in the VFL. He won a Melbourne Cup as owner. Major benefactor to the Opals and lots of suburban sporting clubs. He believes in sport. He is an OAM for his philanthrophy. Most importantly for Saints supporters he is our biggest benefactor. Javco has sponsored us forever.

Gerry endorsed Bassat as President. He endorses the dentist as a new board member to the public. He is collaborative not divisive as you are trying to make out.
Last year when there was the panic regarding COVID and finances Ryan went public with his support for the Saints and the Board. Gerry Ryan reconfirming his support in troubled times helps with stability with sponsors and creditors.

To quote Ricky Nixon:
“The club can count itself lucky that another key reason for turning its fortunes around on and off the field going into the late eighties and early nineties was having Gerry Ryan on the St Kilda board… I don’t think the vast majority of St Kilda fans can possibly have any idea just how much Gerry has done down through the years to help the club survive some perilous times”.
In fact Nixon knows Ryan also bailed the club out of financial jams several over the years. “I believe he even paid a substantial amount of the player salaries one year. But you never get to hear about it and certainly not from Gerry himself”

So at the same time you loved Ross Lyon running around for Fitzroy, Gerry Ryan is saving the saints.

Gerry Ryan supporting the dentist does mean a lot. Because Gerry wants us to win a flag and survive forever. He works with, not against Bassat.

Fitzroy did not have a Gerry Ryan. So your team is now the Brisbane Lions.