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Re: Lonie

Post: # 1930898Post B.M »

2018 and 2019 were his best seasons
Averaging 13ppg and 1.3goals

And in 2017 he averaged 4 tackles per game

But his 2020 & 2021 were disappointing and he will be delisted as a result.


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Re: Lonie

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B.M wrote: Wed 13 Oct 2021 8:30pm 2018 and 2019 were his best seasons
Averaging 13ppg and 1.3goals

And in 2017 he averaged 4 tackles per game

But his 2020 & 2021 were disappointing and he will be delisted as a result.
Stats don't always tell the real story he was fringe player even in those years IMO


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Re: Lonie

Post: # 1930910Post B.M »

Stats don’t tell the story if you don’t want them to

But clearly he performed well in 2018 and 2019 even polling Brownlow votes in both seasons which is hard to do as a forward pocket

Yes, he was fringe… but played well in the games he played

Lonie did do one of the gutsiest things I’ve seen a few years back, when he stood under a hospital pass in the centre of the ground and was smashed from behind… then got straight up to take his kick. Never took a backward step, and I respect that… maybe Coffield could learn a thing or two from him


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Re: Lonie

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B.M wrote: Wed 13 Oct 2021 7:49pm But he can be proud of having had an AFL career

Something you or I haven’t had

Play 1 game of League footy is an achievement
Play 50 means you are a good footballer
Play nearly 100 and even better

Put it this way
He turns up at your local senior club this pre season - he will be the best player by a mile and get north of $1000 per game
Opportunity is earned, so we give him that. He received great opportunities at St.Kilda and it appears he prepared well, has a good tank and found his point of difference, which was his tricks.
I"m a believer that consistency is the greatest measure of success and while he can be proud of what he did achieve, I wonder what he thinks about his lack of consistency. At St.Kilda in the era when Geary, Ross and Newnes were deemed high achievers and leaders, I can only rate Lonie as average. Geary Ross and Newnes won't be legends, but they have been consistent.


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Re: Lonie

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"He was fringe but played well in the games he played"

If he played well in every game he played then why was he fringe?

Should he be on our list? Is he going to help us improve in 2022?

Nice Coffield drive by B.M.. When has Coffield pulled out of a contest?


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Re: Lonie

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Good player, but ultimately I think it was the lack of growth over his 5 seasons that cost him


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Re: Lonie

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He has averaged 12 games a year, his first being his highest year tally of 17 and his lowest year was 10 in 2016.
His longest string of games was 7.
He played just over half his possible career games.
He was consistently inconsistent, good sometimes, average most of the time and in the reserves half the time.


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Re: Lonie

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Never injured?

You didn’t take that into account

He missed 8 games with a knee injury in his best season.

Has had some other injuries

Spin it any way you like… he played nearly 100 games


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Re: Lonie

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Ghost Like wrote: Wed 13 Oct 2021 9:10pm "He was fringe but played well in the games he played"

If he played well in every game he played then why was he fringe?

Should he be on our list? Is he going to help us improve in 2022?

Nice Coffield drive by B.M.. When has Coffield pulled out of a contest?
It happens regularly. Or he’s weak in the contest in the air


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Re: Lonie

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shmic_s wrote: Wed 13 Oct 2021 9:19pm Good player, but ultimately I think it was the lack of growth over his 5 seasons that cost him
Lack of growth over the previous 18 years also cost him.


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Re: Lonie

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Moods wrote: Thu 14 Oct 2021 6:39pm
Ghost Like wrote: Wed 13 Oct 2021 9:10pm "He was fringe but played well in the games he played"

If he played well in every game he played then why was he fringe?

Should he be on our list? Is he going to help us improve in 2022?

Nice Coffield drive by B.M.. When has Coffield pulled out of a contest?
It happens regularly. Or he’s weak in the contest in the air
Pulling out of contests??? Or Not getting to them? I've seen the latter. I doubt the former or else it would have been highlighted, debated and brought up time and again. I don't doubt his courage or commitment, I doubt his confidence, it is too fragile and makes him doubt himself.


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Re: Lonie

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How many good games to he play this year?

The issue isn’t so we expect forward pockets to get 15 touches, 3 goals, 5 tackles every game…
The issue is can they contribute even if opportunities don’t easily come their way.

Lonie couldn’t
More often than not he went missing and couldn’t contribute

Guys like Butler and Higgins can at least push up the ground

Lonie and Kent are too limited IMO… if they’re not kicking goals they struggle to contribute
Lonie is the better crumber, Kent is more polished and better at getting into space

One could possibly be kept for depth… though to be honest, I’d rather give that spot to a developing mid


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Re: Lonie

Post: # 1931090Post Wayne42 »

Ratts likes Kent so i expect him to get another year.


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Re: Lonie

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You need specialist small forwards

It’s absolutely imperative to modern footy

Kent will be retained


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Re: Lonie

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Delisted according to Channel 7


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Re: Lonie

Post: # 1931146Post asiu »

hmmm

the dreaded phone call

thanx lones


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Re: Lonie

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He reminds of that other VFL legend. Toby Pinwill. 🙂. Sorry to see you go Lones. Wish you had of been better.


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Re: Lonie

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Hope he gets a chance elsewhere. Wherever he goes I hope they forgive him for the incessant yapping when he was an opponent. Tried his best. Pretty brave for his size. Maybe if he'd learned to kick with his right foot he may have had a better career with us. That's 8 players delisted.


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Re: Lonie

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Well done Lones!

Small in stature, but big heart!!!

Played a number of handy games in the RW&B

Good luck in the future


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Re: Lonie

Post: # 1931157Post st.byron »

76 games. Only 25. Good luck to him wherever he goes. Good decision by the club. Kent should be next. They'll keep him though I reckon. If they were going to axe him surely would announce it at the same time.


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Re: Lonie

Post: # 1931159Post Wayne42 »

Bye Mr Lonie.

The list evolves again.


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Re: Lonie

Post: # 1931164Post spert »

Lonie did ok for his size, but a bit inconsistent over his time with us, and I hope gets another go elsewhere.


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Re: Lonie

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Played 87 games
76 goals

If he doesn’t get a gig elsewhere will be highly sought after by Frankston, Port Melbourne or even Sandy.

The SANFL and WAFL clubs will also ask the question.

Or he could go play at Frankston YCW or Balwyn or Noble Park for a s*** load as they have money to burn it seems


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