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The_Dud wrote: ↑Wed 06 Oct 2021 4:20pm
Many claimed he wasn't AFL standard, then he came into the side and played very well and made those people (and more senior players) look silly...
Then the same people justified us getting rid of him by saying "See, no one is interested in picking him up!", then the reigning premiers do...
Will they admit they might be wrong about him?
Doubtful
I’d have preferred to keep him personally… came around on that following his late form
Not as bad as ppl are making out now but also pbly not as good as you’re saying either IMHO
Certainly good enough to be on the list and is better than a number of players on the list that we have kept
Spot on.
*cough*GearyRossLonieKent*cough*
All of those players have a significantly better attitude then him though
And to be honest, even with being written off this year and Luke being angry about it... he is primarily to blame IMO
Last time we worried more about off-field attitude instead of on-field performance we picked Paddy over Petracca… you think we would have learned!
I don’t really care if he’s a d**khead during the week, as long as he does well on the weekend!
And by the way, he’s one of our captains best mates, so I’m thinking the rumours about his attitude are overblown.
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The_Dud wrote: ↑Wed 06 Oct 2021 4:20pm
Many claimed he wasn't AFL standard, then he came into the side and played very well and made those people (and more senior players) look silly...
Then the same people justified us getting rid of him by saying "See, no one is interested in picking him up!", then the reigning premiers do...
Will they admit they might be wrong about him?
Doubtful
I’d have preferred to keep him personally… came around on that following his late form
Not as bad as ppl are making out now but also pbly not as good as you’re saying either IMHO
Certainly good enough to be on the list and is better than a number of players on the list that we have kept
Spot on.
*cough*GearyRossLonieKent*cough*
All of those players have a significantly better attitude then him though
And to be honest, even with being written off this year and Luke being angry about it... he is primarily to blame IMO
Last time we worried more about off-field attitude instead of on-field performance we picked Paddy over Petracca… you think we would have learned!
I don’t really care if he’s a d**khead during the week, as long as he does well on the weekend!
And by the way, he’s one of our captains best mates, so I’m thinking the rumours about his attitude are overblown.
I’m not so sure…
Am a bit cynical as to where the improvement has been over 3-4 years. Reckon his training/fitness has been iffy and that’s he pushed himself harder this year and seen the results. Just an opinion though
The_Dud wrote: ↑Wed 06 Oct 2021 4:20pm
Many claimed he wasn't AFL standard, then he came into the side and played very well and made those people (and more senior players) look silly...
Then the same people justified us getting rid of him by saying "See, no one is interested in picking him up!", then the reigning premiers do...
Will they admit they might be wrong about him?
Doubtful
I’d have preferred to keep him personally… came around on that following his late form
Not as bad as ppl are making out now but also pbly not as good as you’re saying either IMHO
Certainly good enough to be on the list and is better than a number of players on the list that we have kept
Spot on.
*cough*GearyRossLonieKent*cough*
All of those players have a significantly better attitude then him though
And to be honest, even with being written off this year and Luke being angry about it... he is primarily to blame IMO
Last time we worried more about off-field attitude instead of on-field performance we picked Paddy over Petracca… you think we would have learned!
I don’t really care if he’s a d**khead during the week, as long as he does well on the weekend!
And by the way, he’s one of our captains best mates, so I’m thinking the rumours about his attitude are overblown.
I’m not so sure…
Am a bit cynical as to where the improvement has been over 3-4 years. Reckon his training/fitness has been iffy and that’s he pushed himself harder this year and seen the results. Just an opinion though
Yeah, but I’m not too worried about why/where the improvement came from, just the fact it was there. The last 2 years he has more than earned his place on the field but continued to be dropped / not selected for other reasons. 100% I understand why he’d be pissed off about it.
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Vortex wrote: ↑Wed 25 Aug 2021 4:35pm
I can't see a top 4 capable club picking him up. He is damaged goods with the question of why he was told he was gone in round 1 his baggage.
I can however see a club at the absolute bottom of a rebuild picking him up to be used as a mature bodied battering ram to provide safe passage for young and underdeveloped bodies through and around stoppages.
I don’t rate Melbourne as a top 4 side either.
I bet you were rubbing your hands together like an excited fly as you typed that out.
I only have two hands, so probably not.
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Can we assume the general manager of AFL football performance at Melbourne FC rates Dunstan more highly than Ratten.
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Vortex wrote: ↑Wed 25 Aug 2021 4:35pm
I can't see a top 4 capable club picking him up. He is damaged goods with the question of why he was told he was gone in round 1 his baggage.
I can however see a club at the absolute bottom of a rebuild picking him up to be used as a mature bodied battering ram to provide safe passage for young and underdeveloped bodies through and around stoppages.
I don’t rate Melbourne as a top 4 side either.
I bet you were rubbing your hands together like an excited fly as you typed that out.
I only have two hands, so probably not.
ahhhhhhhh
poetry in motion
that there is some fine work
.name the ways , thought manipulates the State of Presence away.
Its pretty obvious richo saw (and still sees) a lot more upside in dunny than ratts did. maybe it was a personality clash, maybe purely about roles in the team. be interesting to see if he break into the first team, or is there purely as back up. good luck to him. battered himself week in, week out from day one for us, when he should have had more time developing his skills, fitness and strength in the vfl.
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BadRossco wrote: ↑Wed 06 Oct 2021 10:20pm
Believe he was a delisted free agent, we get zip another c**k up by our list managers and probably the first of many in the trade and draft period
The Age thought that too.
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Thought he is unrestricted free agent but not delisted.
Think AFL website somewhere said a 2 year deal at Melbourne, but unknown yet if this will get us any compensation pick.
Dunstan was recruited to the Dees to do multiple jobs:
- during training, he will retrieve wayward kicks (perfect as he's done plenty himself)
- doing the heavy lifting (carrying players' luggage at airports
- carry water bottles onto the ground for Dees players
- drive the team bus
Have I forgotten anything?
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WellardSaint wrote: ↑Wed 06 Oct 2021 11:03pm
Dunstan was recruited to the Dees to do multiple jobs:
- during training, he will retrieve wayward kicks (perfect as he's done plenty himself)
- doing the heavy lifting (carrying players' luggage at airports
- carry water bottles onto the ground for Dees players
- drive the team bus
Have I forgotten anything?
I’d do all of that and more for a average AFL wage. No complaints about the coaching either.
I'm staggered by the disrespect for Dunstan in this thread. It was Lenny Hayes remember who handed over his jumper to this man. It wasn't an accident. He played his heart out for us season after season and for a long time I thought he'd be our next skipper and certainly felt he was the ONLY player really playing for the jumper (I recall others jumping in and saying 'what about Seb' etc. but it was Dunstan close to tears at a loss, no one else). He was devastated the first time he was dropped to the twos and worked his bum off to try and get back as he has repeatedly the last few seasons to no avail. Obviously I have no idea about his attitude or off-field personality but I've no reason to doubt his own account that he could just never get on the coach's right side. I expect he was opinionated which wouldn't go down well with the king of the kids. What a fault! I hope and expect him to do well at the Dees. And I hope Dees fans value him a bit higher and show him a damned sight more respect than Saints fans on this site.
I presume Ratts didn't rate him because Ratts wants a different kind of midfield, and has been pretty adamant about poor disposal being a problem. Dunstan is tough nut, but we need cream on the top in the midfield, otherwise we will just be treading water.
freely wrote: ↑Thu 07 Oct 2021 3:34am
I'm staggered by the disrespect for Dunstan in this thread. It was Lenny Hayes remember who handed over his jumper to this man. It wasn't an accident. He played his heart out for us season after season and for a long time I thought he'd be our next skipper and certainly felt he was the ONLY player really playing for the jumper (I recall others jumping in and saying 'what about Seb' etc. but it was Dunstan close to tears at a loss, no one else). He was devastated the first time he was dropped to the twos and worked his bum off to try and get back as he has repeatedly the last few seasons to no avail. Obviously I have no idea about his attitude or off-field personality but I've no reason to doubt his own account that he could just never get on the coach's right side. I expect he was opinionated which wouldn't go down well with the king of the kids. What a fault! I hope and expect him to do well at the Dees. And I hope Dees fans value him a bit higher and show him a damned sight more respect than Saints fans on this site.
He was happy to give us a clip on the way out so why shouldn't we?
freely wrote: ↑Thu 07 Oct 2021 3:34am
I'm staggered by the disrespect for Dunstan in this thread. It was Lenny Hayes remember who handed over his jumper to this man. It wasn't an accident. He played his heart out for us season after season and for a long time I thought he'd be our next skipper and certainly felt he was the ONLY player really playing for the jumper (I recall others jumping in and saying 'what about Seb' etc. but it was Dunstan close to tears at a loss, no one else). He was devastated the first time he was dropped to the twos and worked his bum off to try and get back as he has repeatedly the last few seasons to no avail. Obviously I have no idea about his attitude or off-field personality but I've no reason to doubt his own account that he could just never get on the coach's right side. I expect he was opinionated which wouldn't go down well with the king of the kids. What a fault! I hope and expect him to do well at the Dees. And I hope Dees fans value him a bit higher and show him a damned sight more respect than Saints fans on this site.
He was happy to give us a clip on the way out so why shouldn't we?
Was it a 'clip' or was he just being honest? I don't think there was anything said that wasn't already widely known.
Also interesting quote from Melbourne... "We think Luke’s best football is ahead of him and just as importantly, Luke is a terrific cultural fit for our club."
So he's a 'terrific culture fit' at the Premiers but apparently this was the reason Ratts got rid of him... what does that say?
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freely wrote: ↑Thu 07 Oct 2021 3:34am
I'm staggered by the disrespect for Dunstan in this thread. It was Lenny Hayes remember who handed over his jumper to this man. It wasn't an accident. He played his heart out for us season after season and for a long time I thought he'd be our next skipper and certainly felt he was the ONLY player really playing for the jumper (I recall others jumping in and saying 'what about Seb' etc. but it was Dunstan close to tears at a loss, no one else). He was devastated the first time he was dropped to the twos and worked his bum off to try and get back as he has repeatedly the last few seasons to no avail. Obviously I have no idea about his attitude or off-field personality but I've no reason to doubt his own account that he could just never get on the coach's right side. I expect he was opinionated which wouldn't go down well with the king of the kids. What a fault! I hope and expect him to do well at the Dees. And I hope Dees fans value him a bit higher and show him a damned sight more respect than Saints fans on this site.
He was happy to give us a clip on the way out so why shouldn't we?
Was it a 'clip' or was he just being honest? I don't think there was anything said that wasn't already widely known.
Also interesting quote from Melbourne... "We think Luke’s best football is ahead of him and just as importantly, Luke is a terrific cultural fit for our club."
So he's a 'terrific culture fit' at the Premiers but apparently this was the reason Ratts got rid of him... what does that say?
Standard line rattled off when anyone is picked up. Let me guess you believe the clubs after the draft when they say they kid they got at 75 they rated in the top few in the draft.
and despise the Pies, the Blues, and the Injectors.
