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Re: Patrick Naish

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older saint wrote: Sun 03 Oct 2021 2:25pm delisted free agent costs nothing and cheaper and more upside than say a Lonie or Kent surely.
He does cost something. A place on the list.

Clearly our insurance tactic failed miserably this year.

Do you see any of the powerful clubs recruiting insurance (Geelong the exception, and how is that going for them)

Get young players you can develop and groom into your team.


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Re: Patrick Naish

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Patrick Naish is 22yo

Frawley was 33, McKernan was 31

Big difference


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How did you see the signing of Higgins for last season?

Butler?

They were Richmond outcasts.


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Re: Patrick Naish

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I thought the club was getting rid of GOP's, not bringing more in.

He might end up at Carlton, they're getting everyone else.


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Every side needs GOPs

Can’t have 22 stars


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Re: Patrick Naish

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They should be looking for better players than Naish, if they are chasing success, unless Sandy needs some depth.


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Re: Patrick Naish

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terry smith rules wrote: Mon 04 Oct 2021 11:19am
older saint wrote: Sun 03 Oct 2021 2:25pm delisted free agent costs nothing and cheaper and more upside than say a Lonie or Kent surely.
He does cost something. A place on the list.

Clearly our insurance tactic failed miserably this year.

Do you see any of the powerful clubs recruiting insurance (Geelong the exception, and how is that going for them)

Get young players you can develop and groom into your team.
So your saying he can't be groomed to improve and have a roll in a best 28 playing group ( need that depth minimal to win as injuries , suspensions always happen)?
IF not then no dont get
If maybe then surely better than Lonie or Kent, neither of which I see in the next top 4 side of ours.
Need to look at who else would be in that list place .


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Re: Patrick Naish

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B.M wrote: Sat 02 Oct 2021 3:25pm Why do you think he is soft?

He is 183cm is that small??
Of course it is small.
Barely 6 foot.
Only 12cm taller than me.


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Re: Patrick Naish

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St Kilda was willing to spend 542 points on him at pick 34 but Richmond got him for 444 points = pick 39


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ace wrote: Mon 04 Oct 2021 2:13pm St Kilda was willing to spend 542 points on him at pick 34 but Richmond got him for 444 points = pick 39
LOL - but we got someone at 3,000 points as well - once drafted the position and point value of that player means nought - if they develop great - if not cast them aside and start again.

I am reminded of a Cost accounting exercise.
If you produce 10,000 widgets per day and have just bought a machine that produces widgets for $0.05 but get offered one that will do the same widget for $0.03 (all other costs are the same) for $20,000 do you scrap your brand new machine and buy another??

Naish at Richmond is not worth pick 34 anymore - he is worth what someone will pay for him - historical 'cost' is irrelevant


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Re: Patrick Naish

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Sainter_Dad wrote: Mon 04 Oct 2021 5:29pm
ace wrote: Mon 04 Oct 2021 2:13pm St Kilda was willing to spend 542 points on him at pick 34 but Richmond got him for 444 points = pick 39
LOL - but we got someone at 3,000 points as well - once drafted the position and point value of that player means nought - if they develop great - if not cast them aside and start again.

I am reminded of a Cost accounting exercise.
If you produce 10,000 widgets per day and have just bought a machine that produces widgets for $0.05 but get offered one that will do the same widget for $0.03 (all other costs are the same) for $20,000 do you scrap your brand new machine and buy another??

Naish at Richmond is not worth pick 34 anymore - he is worth what someone will pay for him - historical 'cost' is irrelevant
Tinker with the 5c machine for a number of years, thinking you'll make it better and start producing at 3c. Stuff it up so much that it's now producing at 8c, so sell it to Essendon who tighten one screw and make it work at 2c.


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Re: Patrick Naish

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SaintJohno wrote: Mon 04 Oct 2021 5:37pm
Sainter_Dad wrote: Mon 04 Oct 2021 5:29pm
ace wrote: Mon 04 Oct 2021 2:13pm St Kilda was willing to spend 542 points on him at pick 34 but Richmond got him for 444 points = pick 39
LOL - but we got someone at 3,000 points as well - once drafted the position and point value of that player means nought - if they develop great - if not cast them aside and start again.

I am reminded of a Cost accounting exercise.
If you produce 10,000 widgets per day and have just bought a machine that produces widgets for $0.05 but get offered one that will do the same widget for $0.03 (all other costs are the same) for $20,000 do you scrap your brand new machine and buy another??

Naish at Richmond is not worth pick 34 anymore - he is worth what someone will pay for him - historical 'cost' is irrelevant
Tinker with the 5c machine for a number of years, thinking you'll make it better and start producing at 3c. Stuff it up so much that it's now producing at 8c, so sell it to Essendon who tighten one screw and make it work at 2c.
On a day that has produced a Trade Wilkie thread - You Sir deserve Gold!


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Re: Patrick Naish

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SaintJohno wrote: Mon 04 Oct 2021 5:37pm
Sainter_Dad wrote: Mon 04 Oct 2021 5:29pm
ace wrote: Mon 04 Oct 2021 2:13pm St Kilda was willing to spend 542 points on him at pick 34 but Richmond got him for 444 points = pick 39
LOL - but we got someone at 3,000 points as well - once drafted the position and point value of that player means nought - if they develop great - if not cast them aside and start again.

I am reminded of a Cost accounting exercise.
If you produce 10,000 widgets per day and have just bought a machine that produces widgets for $0.05 but get offered one that will do the same widget for $0.03 (all other costs are the same) for $20,000 do you scrap your brand new machine and buy another??

Naish at Richmond is not worth pick 34 anymore - he is worth what someone will pay for him - historical 'cost' is irrelevant
Tinker with the 5c machine for a number of years, thinking you'll make it better and start producing at 3c. Stuff it up so much that it's now producing at 8c, so sell it to Essendon who tighten one screw and make it work at 2c.
yeah I hear fellow named adrian dodoro works in the purchasing dept


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Re: Patrick Naish

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B.M wrote: Mon 04 Oct 2021 10:57am Is Tom Landon a big explosive mid?
Wing
Elite runner
Naish isn’t Langdon or Tigers would still keep him
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Re: Patrick Naish

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terry smith rules wrote: Mon 04 Oct 2021 10:50am Seriously I cannot believe we would be interested in Naish

When the Tigers could barely field a mid field through all the injuries he could still hardly get a game.

We don’t need another smallish lightly built player, did anyone from our club watch the grand final. It is all about big explosive players, if you were going to take a player cheaply then Hamish Hartlett (probably too old but ..) or Powell Pepper (could be available)
Spot on Terry
Small
Can’t win his own ball
Will be another Lonie
Not what we need
Astounds me


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Re: Patrick Naish

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Teflon wrote: Mon 04 Oct 2021 11:59pm
terry smith rules wrote: Mon 04 Oct 2021 10:50am Seriously I cannot believe we would be interested in Naish

When the Tigers could barely field a mid field through all the injuries he could still hardly get a game.

We don’t need another smallish lightly built player, did anyone from our club watch the grand final. It is all about big explosive players, if you were going to take a player cheaply then Hamish Hartlett (probably too old but ..) or Powell Pepper (could be available)
Spot on Terry
Small
Can’t win his own ball
Will be another Lonie
Not what we need
Astounds me
Will be another Lonie. And you know this how? You don't, but never mind.


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Re: Patrick Naish

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damienc wrote: Tue 05 Oct 2021 12:34am
Teflon wrote: Mon 04 Oct 2021 11:59pm
terry smith rules wrote: Mon 04 Oct 2021 10:50am Seriously I cannot believe we would be interested in Naish

When the Tigers could barely field a mid field through all the injuries he could still hardly get a game.

We don’t need another smallish lightly built player, did anyone from our club watch the grand final. It is all about big explosive players, if you were going to take a player cheaply then Hamish Hartlett (probably too old but ..) or Powell Pepper (could be available)
Spot on Terry
Small
Can’t win his own ball
Will be another Lonie
Not what we need
Astounds me
Will be another Lonie. And you know this how? You don't, but never mind.
I know things Damien
Get with the program !


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Re: Patrick Naish

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For a start they play different positions
One is a crumbing small forward the other a Wing/HF runner

Secondly
Lonie is 174cm 71kg
Naish is 183cm 78kg

Oh
And if you can’t win your own footy, you don’t get a kick on small VFL ovals in windy wet conditions you don’t dominate.

BTW
Lonie is a tough little f***er


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