Apparently he didn’t interview very well

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Re: Apparently he didn’t interview very well

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B.M wrote: Sat 25 Sep 2021 11:42pm There were some who actually criticised the decision at the time!!!

And we’re roundly rubbished on here by apologists
Some!?!

The majority hated the decision at the time.

What was especially challenging was those that for many years insisted that McCartin was the better pick. Curly at least stands by his argument that injury crueller Paddy and I can respect that... but so many others swore black and blue that Paddy would have the better career and would be redrafted and stick it to the doubters.

Wonder if they’ll pop up


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I would pay $10k for a transcript of that interview and what it was that the ppl in charge thought they interpreted.


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CURLY wrote: Sat 25 Sep 2021 10:43pm
meher baba wrote: Sat 25 Sep 2021 10:40pm
CURLY wrote: Sat 25 Sep 2021 10:38pm
meher baba wrote: Sat 25 Sep 2021 10:32pm
CURLY wrote: Sat 25 Sep 2021 10:29pm And here we go again. FFS
Well,,it still causes me pain.
Yeah and if he got knocked out 5 times and couldn’t play you wouldn’t care
Who? Petracca?
Yes
Petracca was the clear number one pick. Any man and his dog knew that.


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And Trout still has his defenders 🙄


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SydneySainter wrote: Sun 26 Sep 2021 12:35am
CURLY wrote: Sat 25 Sep 2021 10:43pm
meher baba wrote: Sat 25 Sep 2021 10:40pm
CURLY wrote: Sat 25 Sep 2021 10:38pm
meher baba wrote: Sat 25 Sep 2021 10:32pm
CURLY wrote: Sat 25 Sep 2021 10:29pm And here we go again. FFS
Well,,it still causes me pain.
Yeah and if he got knocked out 5 times and couldn’t play you wouldn’t care
Who? Petracca?
Yes
Petracca was the clear number one pick. Any man and his dog knew that.
Except we didn't have a dog picking the players. We had a f****** fish!
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One of the single biggest challenges I see again and again in recruiting employees...

Looking at what is there in front of you versus what you could develop and mould


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Re: Apparently he didn’t interview very well

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Waltzing St Kilda wrote: Sun 26 Sep 2021 12:03am Even better for Melbourne was that after we failed to pick Petracca we let it be known far and wide that he didn't interview well, he was arrogant, etc.

What a lack of class.

So this would have been pointed out to Petracca and he made a conscious effort to change.
That was just a dishonest load of shyte put out to explain why they did not take the clear no 1 player in the draft.


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Re: Apparently he didn’t interview very well

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CURLY wrote: Sat 25 Sep 2021 10:48pm
The_Dud wrote: Sat 25 Sep 2021 10:46pm What Paddy doing right now? 🤦‍♂️
Injury troll love it.
You are full of sneer.

I'm not sure defending the indefensible is the smartest of moves, but your choice.

These are the facts:

1) Christian Petracca is the best player in the AFL. He is an unstoppable midfield bull.

2) I'm not going to say he singlehandedly won the Premiership for Melbourne, but he was the main reason for their victory.

3) Petracca proved, once and for all, that not selecting him as our number 1 draft pick was the worst recruiting decision an AFL club has ever made.

The worst.


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Re: Apparently he didn’t interview very well

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damienc wrote: Sun 26 Sep 2021 7:47am
CURLY wrote: Sat 25 Sep 2021 10:48pm
The_Dud wrote: Sat 25 Sep 2021 10:46pm What Paddy doing right now? 🤦‍♂️
Injury troll love it.
You are full of sneer.

I'm not sure defending the indefensible is the smartest of moves, but your choice.

These are the facts:

1) Christian Petracca is the best player in the AFL. He is an unstoppable midfield bull.

2) I'm not going to say he singlehandedly won the Premiership for Melbourne, but he was the main reason for their victory.

3) Petracca proved, once and for all, that not selecting him as our number 1 draft pick was the worst recruiting decision an AFL club has ever made.

The worst.
Yeah but is carrying on like petulant sooks for the remainder of one's life a good look. It's just plain damn embarrassing how some fans carry on and sometimes I wonder if this is a kindergarten forum.


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Re: Apparently he didn’t interview very well

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damienc wrote: Sun 26 Sep 2021 7:47am
CURLY wrote: Sat 25 Sep 2021 10:48pm
The_Dud wrote: Sat 25 Sep 2021 10:46pm What Paddy doing right now? 🤦‍♂️
Injury troll love it.
You are full of sneer.

I'm not sure defending the indefensible is the smartest of moves, but your choice.

These are the facts:

1) Christian Petracca is the best player in the AFL. He is an unstoppable midfield bull.

2) I'm not going to say he singlehandedly won the Premiership for Melbourne, but he was the main reason for their victory.

3) Petracca proved, once and for all, that not selecting him as our number 1 draft pick was the worst recruiting decision an AFL club has ever made.

The worst.
Scully Trengrovr over Dusty ????
Tambling over Franklin
Ellis over Pendlebury
Fraser over Pavlich

Lol the history of the draft is full of mistakes and all clubs are guilty of mistakes.

McCartin not being able to play due to injury means he hasn’t given us a chance to see how good he’d have been.


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skeptic wrote: Sun 26 Sep 2021 12:43am One of the single biggest challenges I see again and again in recruiting employees...

Looking at what is there in front of you versus what you could develop and mould
And convincing others about your recruiting instincts.


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CURLY wrote: Sun 26 Sep 2021 8:09am
damienc wrote: Sun 26 Sep 2021 7:47am
CURLY wrote: Sat 25 Sep 2021 10:48pm
The_Dud wrote: Sat 25 Sep 2021 10:46pm What Paddy doing right now? 🤦‍♂️
Injury troll love it.
You are full of sneer.

I'm not sure defending the indefensible is the smartest of moves, but your choice.

These are the facts:

1) Christian Petracca is the best player in the AFL. He is an unstoppable midfield bull.

2) I'm not going to say he singlehandedly won the Premiership for Melbourne, but he was the main reason for their victory.

3) Petracca proved, once and for all, that not selecting him as our number 1 draft pick was the worst recruiting decision an AFL club has ever made.

The worst.
Scully Trengrovr over Dusty ????
Tambling over Franklin
Ellis over Pendlebury
Fraser over Pavlich

Lol the history of the draft is full of mistakes and all clubs are guilty of mistakes.

McCartin not being able to play due to injury means he hasn’t given us a chance to see how good he’d have been.
The draft hasn't always worked.

You are right about that. And clubs make mistakes.

But not taking Petracca wasn't a mistake it was incompetence.

The fact that he was the best in the draft was the worst kept secret.

He'd shown his DNA at TAC Cup level.

Recruiting rule number 1, take the very best player available and we didn't.


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Re: Apparently he didn’t interview very well

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How often is done though?

How often are the so call experts right though?

Now in hindsight it was a mistake for numerous reasons. Let’s not rewrite history and make out McCartin was a smokie no one else had top one or two.


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As posted in the McCartin thread - but edited for relevance:

I am afraid that I am in the minority here - however:

Petracca is a fantastic midfield beast - we have our own in Steele

If Petracca had come to us at the time and we had just washed our hands of him as an underperformer then he could very well have been traded or asked to move on.

Petracca on his own would not have us holding aloft a cup as I fear he would have hampered Steele and left him as a designated tagger.

I prefer Steele over Petracca (even just for his leadership)


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While McCartin was a never able to show what he could do , and perhaps he could have been a Josh Kennedy type player the bottom line is like Judd, Ball Hodge - As good as Hodge was Judd was the best .
As good as McCartin may have been i cant believe in any world( especially how the game has evolved) he would be better than Petracca.
Pure and simple the Boyd deal Spooked the recruiters in their quest to replace Roo.


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older saint wrote: Sun 26 Sep 2021 10:42am While McCartin was a never able to show what he could do , and perhaps he could have been a Josh Kennedy type player the bottom line is like Judd, Ball Hodge - As good as Hodge was Judd was the best .
As good as McCartin may have been i cant believe in any world( especially how the game has evolved) he would be better than Petracca.
Pure and simple the Boyd deal Spooked the recruiters in their quest to replace Roo.
Absolutely no way he'd have been better than Petracca, but if he'd ended up a decent forward like Gunston it would hurt a lot less.

The fact we ended up with zilch from pick one is what really stings.


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1966 wrote: Sat 25 Sep 2021 11:23pm
suss wrote: Sat 25 Sep 2021 10:56pm I honestly wonder what Trout must think when watches Patracca play. He is embarrassed? Does he actually realise what he’s done or does he tell himself that he didn’t have a crystal ball and that he made the right decision at the time?
Not even Daniel Andrew’s could spin enough bull s*** to explain it. Was a shocking decision at the time - now it’s an all time great stuff up.

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ace wrote: Sun 26 Sep 2021 1:16am
Waltzing St Kilda wrote: Sun 26 Sep 2021 12:03am Even better for Melbourne was that after we failed to pick Petracca we let it be known far and wide that he didn't interview well, he was arrogant, etc.

What a lack of class.

So this would have been pointed out to Petracca and he made a conscious effort to change.
That was just a dishonest load of shyte put out to explain why they did not take the clear no 1 player in the draft.

Nail, hammer. head. :cry:


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asiu wrote: Sun 26 Sep 2021 10:56am
1966 wrote: Sat 25 Sep 2021 11:23pm
suss wrote: Sat 25 Sep 2021 10:56pm I honestly wonder what Trout must think when watches Patracca play. He is embarrassed? Does he actually realise what he’s done or does he tell himself that he didn’t have a crystal ball and that he made the right decision at the time?
Not even Daniel Andrew’s could spin enough bull s*** to explain it. Was a shocking decision at the time - now it’s an all time great stuff up.

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was this a reported post
or a drive by ?
I wondered that. Pretty hard to reference the art of bullsh!te spinning without referencing a politician. Would have thought whoever the incumbent is would be a fair mark.


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1966 wrote: Sat 25 Sep 2021 11:23pm
suss wrote: Sat 25 Sep 2021 10:56pm I honestly wonder what Trout must think when watches Patracca play. He is embarrassed? Does he actually realise what he’s done or does he tell himself that he didn’t have a crystal ball and that he made the right decision at the time?
Not even Daniel Andrew’s could spin enough bull s*** to explain it. Was a shocking decision at the time - now it’s an all time great stuff up.

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Seems like an incredibly harsh response to what looks like a light hearted attempt at humour by a forumite that’s never caused drama here before


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Have to move on
We have some strong pieces coming together in this side
IF we can out the Trout years behind us fast we can contend
Steele will need help he’s not Petracca but certainly Oliver level and A grade


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B.M wrote: Sat 25 Sep 2021 11:42pm There were some who actually criticised the decision at the time!!!

And we’re roundly rubbished on here by apologists
Reinventing history I see. By some you obviously mean you.

Fact is however that virtually all on the forum at that time wanted Petracca and not McCartin.


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That was mostly pre draft

Many convinced themselves post draft that we took the right guy for our rebuild

Many were pumped about getting McCartin and Goddard for our spine.

Some even took pleasure in the fact Petracca did his knee, and struggled at times early doors!

I have a simple drafting philosophy
Take the player with the most talent!!!

Premiership teams have the most good players.


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Re: Apparently he didn’t interview very well

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Very simplistic view it’s a collective of things that wins Grand Finals.


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Don’t need to over complicate a simple process

Good teams win premierships

Good teams have good players


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