Was this loss as bad as the 1999 Hawthorn one

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Was this loss as bad as the 1999 Hawthorn one

Post: # 1908256Post terry smith rules »

That loss set took us 2 years psychologically to get over.


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Re: Was this loss as bad as the 1999 Hawthorn one

Post: # 1908259Post B.M »

It took longer than that, took to mid 2003

No, it wasn’t as bad… but it was still shocking


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Post: # 1908264Post sainter104 »

What a fkn joke .....ratten should resign immediately
...convince me otherwise


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Post: # 1908265Post Wayne42 »

terry smith rules wrote: Sat 12 Jun 2021 11:53pm That loss set took us 2 years psychologically to get over.
I think the club is still trying to get over the 1971 Grand Final loss, let alone any of the others. :lol:


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Re: Was this loss as bad as the 1999 Hawthorn one

Post: # 1908266Post Enrico_Misso »

The Hawthorn loss was the END of an era that had seen us almost win a flag.

But the difference with this loss is we haven't had an era to end it.
Maybe a stillborn era?


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Re: Was this loss as bad as the 1999 Hawthorn one

Post: # 1908270Post Life Long Saint »

B.M wrote: Sat 12 Jun 2021 11:57pm It took longer than that, took to mid 2003

No, it wasn’t as bad… but it was still shocking
No...we were still contenders then. We were 7-4 and a game off top spot...and blew an 11 goal lead.
It showed me that Tim Watson was a terrible coach.


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Re: Was this loss as bad as the 1999 Hawthorn one

Post: # 1908273Post Ape_Man »

In 1999 were only 20 months out from playing in a Grand Final.

This time just it was just 128 months or so.

So I think 1999 was worse.


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Post: # 1908288Post Bowey Boy »

Nope, and we almost had an ok team then and suffered a rather rude awakening. This year we know we are s*** and can now move onto a mini rebuild. Unfortunately there is not much cattle to rebuild with.


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Post: # 1908319Post Waltzing St Kilda »

The four thrashinsgs were worse. Will likely be more to come.


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Re: Was this loss as bad as the 1999 Hawthorn one

Post: # 1908331Post shanegrambeau »

Ape_Man wrote: Sun 13 Jun 2021 12:04am In 1999 were only 20 months out from playing in a Grand Final.

This time just it was just 128 months or so.

So I think 1999 was worse.

And the 1999 one precipitated a decline into hell. We fell off a cliff that took two coaches down with ship, saw off half the team and we didn’t re-emerge for five years, with all the wonder boys.


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Post: # 1908337Post Wayne42 »

Bowey Boy wrote: Sun 13 Jun 2021 12:09am Nope, and we almost had an ok team then and suffered a rather rude awakening. This year we know we are s*** and can now move onto a mini rebuild. Unfortunately there is not much cattle to rebuild with.
We don't have many good draft picks in 2021 either. They'll all be at the arse end which causes our recruiters to look for chaff.


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Re: Was this loss as bad as the 1999 Hawthorn one

Post: # 1908339Post Ape_Man »

shanegrambeau wrote: Sun 13 Jun 2021 12:38am
Ape_Man wrote: Sun 13 Jun 2021 12:04am In 1999 were only 20 months out from playing in a Grand Final.

This time just it was just 128 months or so.

So I think 1999 was worse.

And the 1999 one precipitated a decline into hell. We fell off a cliff that took two coaches down with ship, saw off half the team and we didn’t re-emerge for five years, with all the wonder boys.
It was a massive cliff, although it did set up a new era.

We were in a prelim only 5 years later with an absolutely cracking list.

I just don't want to wait another 5 years, it has been long enough.


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Re: Was this loss as bad as the 1999 Hawthorn one

Post: # 1908343Post Yorkeys »

No. It was interesting we got so close.

A side with Lonie, Long, Coffield, Hunter and Butler in it and terribly out of form Battle and Bytel (is he up to it actually?) can't win: especially with so many first choices out, the hopeless travel arrangements, the injury to Clark and the absurdity of thinking AFL football can be played in tropical conditions.

It took Adelaide a long time to wind up, we almost got a winning break but you cannot cheat fate and it doesn't want us to win this year.

There is an upside. It cannot now be seriously disputed - if it was previously - that all the players mentioned above, except for poor Clark, have to go as soon as it is practical, they are not up to it.

Coffield, unfortunately to my way of thinking, has the heart like a pea. The others do not have the physical and mental attributes to play in the firsts. And possibly pea sized hearts.

The trip home will be so awful for poor Hunter Clark; McKay should get 6 weeks. Wonder if he will even be cited. Ratts trip will only be slightly less uncomfortable but he can start on his delisting list.

The people on here that have been denigrating Luke Dunstan rather manically, while obviously disappointed he played so well and made them look foolish, are no doubt writing their apologies right now. Will make good reading.


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Re: Was this loss as bad as the 1999 Hawthorn one

Post: # 1908354Post SaintPav »

No comparison to the 1999 result.

We are missing half a team. Crows got a few very generous calls.

Nonetheless, a pathetic fade out. Very demoralizing for the loyal supporters.

This is the season from hell.


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Re: Was this loss as bad as the 1999 Hawthorn one

Post: # 1908371Post mr six o'clock »

SaintPav wrote: Sun 13 Jun 2021 12:55am No comparison to the 1999 result.

We are missing half a team. Crows got a few very generous calls.

Nonetheless, a pathetic fade out. Very demoralizing for the loyal supporters.

This is the season from hell.
I concur
You can only build good team by drafting talented kids . From 2011 to 2016 we were really crap at this ( concessions to gws and Gc in these years probably didn't help)
Once you've got some good kids you can try to buy in some talent , but you can't cut too many corners and we have surely done this .
Picking up a good mid fielder in crouch was okay but we should have used our other picks on the best available kids .
Occassionly you might get lucky and get a bargain but at least you don't end up with too many hacks who have simply come for the paycheck .
we have got a decent roster of under 25s . So hopefully a bunch of talented kids will be added at seasons end .
And next year wont be such a disaster.


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