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BadRossco wrote: ↑Tue 01 Jun 2021 11:05pm
Devil head is probably right but this season is already washed up so let’s plan for the future that said we have a few in the team now that are not having a lot of impact
We got top-ups of older players, like the Eagles did with Sam Mitchell and Drew Petrie, kind of implying 'our list is great, we're just adding some experience'
And that didn't work, so we get 4 newbies, cast off the unwanted...the newbies will take a while to come on (like Clav did)
Which is an admission of a rebuild?
The club is wary of outward perception- of course they are. Sponsors, wealthy members (not Skunk )
They went in to bat for Hill.
In the past, they backed Richo way past the point of common sense.
They're a bit touchy about outsider's criticism.
Admitting a rebuild is gonna give the vultures more ammo
A real Sainter will pledge allegiance to the ❤ and despise the Pies, the Blues, and the Injectors.
Remember one of the 10 Commandments : Thou shalt have no other team before thee
Does everyone realise the midseason draft isn't the national draft
much much less likely to get a gem in the mid season than national, rather keep the money and spots free for then. Apart from Marlion Pickett who has been hit and miss who else has been successful with the midseason since it came back?
Look at the 2019 Mid season Draft Smelling (Essendon) and Gardener (Bulldogs), Pickett and Noble (Collingwood) still on the lists 2 years later and none have locked a position in a side let alone starred.
WellardSaint wrote: ↑Tue 01 Jun 2021 11:06pm
Further to my post, I mentioned those 4 because according to the Contracts thread, they're signed to end of this yr.
Can't see any of them on the list next year.
Each newby apparently must be kept for next yr or we pay $80k for each one.
So...we may not take 4, we may play safe and take 2?
I think we'll take 4, no harm in having all 4 (hopefully all under 21) on an AFL list for 4 months before starting a full pre season in October / November & be given a year to push their case.
Better the unknown than the known. Let's hope our recruiters have done their homework & try not to be too smart...they are not good with that. In fact, the last time they were smart, he's now playing for Essendon.
Mid season draft is there to get teams missing a certain player to the end of the season. its a spare tyre draft. You may get lucky but generally these are stop gap players not good enough to be drafted last season or delisted players wanting another shot. Our cupboard is bare but dont stock it with crap. Take a punt on a ruckman for sure but we dont need another sub par player. See this season out and draft properly at seasons end. And for the love of god don
t sell the farm for another has been
I agree with Curly, if the club have opened up those positions specifically for this draft they have planned exceptionally well. I believe we can really add some solid youth to our list, when we mighten have got the chance waiting for the National Draft
Interesting that there's a misconception of the MSD; that somehow we would "sell the farm" for certain players.
I totally disagree. I think we get a free hit to look at some potential project players - four! - who we are generally obsessed with at the National Draft time. Marshall, Wilkie and Highmore are all State League players who could have been taken in this type of draft.
We've literally got 11 weeks left in Season 2021. It's not long at all. Think of it as an 11-week trial period.
So why wouldn't you look at as many possible prospects, knowing full well our list is in urgent need of some repairs? We literally lose nothing by having these guys on our list.
If we signed four, and only one became a best 22 player, and we cut the other three, I believe that would represent a great result. Quite frankly, we need all the help we can get right now, and having given up so much in the past three drafts to secure talent, this is a good opportunity.
Possibility we'll find a player or two? Reasonable. Risk? Absolutely zero.
A poster has said that any player taken in the MSD must be offered a contract for nexr yr.
If not, the AFL club must pay $80 in total, per player.
If true, this prob protects the player from false hope, i.e. he's not just a fill-in for 11 wks.
It puts cash pressure on clubs to do their due diligence.
A real Sainter will pledge allegiance to the ❤ and despise the Pies, the Blues, and the Injectors.
Remember one of the 10 Commandments : Thou shalt have no other team before thee
are we trying to be financially viable by not having a full compliment of players on our list?
Seems strange to only use 1 pick when we have a few spots on our list.
Surely if there is one area to spend money it has to be on thw best young players....we have a small list top heavy with old injury prone players ....let's go!
Im hoping that as last season was so interrupted for junior footy a few went under the radar and didnt get drafted, where as now they're showing they're capable of playing AFL footy.... and we have 4 picks..
I read that the club could either offer a 6 or 18 months contract. Like I was saying its a temporary fix. that snot a bad thing and we may get lucky but most are players that were overlooked in last years draft so I am not getting my hopes up.
But in saying that there will most likely be one or two gems hidden in there so hope we jag one
Watching the draft is as exciting as it gets for Saints fan. It's our Grand Final.
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DRAFT ANALYSIS: "A smart and reliable goalkicking forward, Sharman has developed quickly over a short space of time, but still has a long way to go and will look to build his endurance and defensive pressure at the next level."
THE raw talent from Leeton, New South Wales made the trip down to Victoria where he was playing under Rodney Eade at Balwyn. Little did he know, by the end of the season, Sharman would be playing in a NAB League Boys premiership side, adding a different dimension to the Oakleigh Chargers’ forward six. He is still incredibly raw with a number of areas to work on, but is a natural footballer with a good size and traits that catch the eye immediately. Being one of only two overagers to receive a National Draft Combine invite, Sharman does have previous experience in an elite system, have missed out on a chance on the GIANTS Academy before making the move to Victoria. He has to build endurance and work on constructing a more versatile and well-rounded game as a whole, but his ceiling is incredibly high, and his X-factor inside 50 is among the best in the competition.
In terms of his work inside 50, there is not too much you can fault Sharman on. Earlier when he first entered the Oakleigh program, his defensive pressure was something that immediately could improve, after laying four tackles in his first three games combined. He improved that number against the Western Jets to lay four in a game, but then just two over the next three weeks, before three in the NAB League Grand Final. So now Sharman has shown he can produce the defensive effort, it is just doing it more consistently, which will develop with his endurance that has to come with more time spent in elite development. He has come a long way considering he would have been a fair way back compared to many of his draft peers, and bursting onto the scene in the first month since joining the Chargers gave draft watchers and recruiters a real glimpse into what he is capable of even against elite talents. Granted with the Chargers’ midfield it is happy days being a forward, but Sharman’s consistency at hitting the scoreboard – he booted goals in all game bar one, where he also spent time down back in that one – and always looking dangerous, never wavered.
Sharman has the footy smarts to not only kick goals himself, but set up teammates with deft taps to space for them to run onto, or unselfishly give off opportunities to teammates in better positions. He is able to find space inside 50 and exploit holes in the opposition defence, such as in the Grand Final where he found himself unmanned in the goalsquare to convert after uncharacteristically missing a couple of set shots. He only missed four shots in his 18 scoring attempts this season, which was just two from 15 heading into the NAB League decider. His best game came against the Eastern Ranges at Box Hill, where he booted four goals in a tight win, also picking up 18 touches and clunking six marks. His vertical leap makes him hard to beat, outmarking the athletic Emerson Jeka at the same ground a week later on his way to a couple of goals and showing he belonged. Sharman has the footy smarts to mark the ball at the highest point, which is why he is such a damaging forward when he has space in front of him. He rarely misses his opportunities and plays a simple game to influence a match. He has predominantly played inside 50 for most of the season with just a small stint in defence, so his versatility is another area of improvement. His 20m score at the National Draft Combine of 3.18 seconds is not indicative of his speed, with Sharman able to seemingly have a quick burst off the mark, and with that ability to mark at the highest point, causes headaches for opposition defenders. As a whole, Sharman has a long way to go in terms of development, but he makes the most of his opportunities, and is a very exciting talent inside 50.
DRAFT ANALYSIS: "A smart and reliable goalkicking forward, Sharman has developed quickly over a short space of time, but still has a long way to go and will look to build his endurance and defensive pressure at the next level."
THE raw talent from Leeton, New South Wales made the trip down to Victoria where he was playing under Rodney Eade at Balwyn. Little did he know, by the end of the season, Sharman would be playing in a NAB League Boys premiership side, adding a different dimension to the Oakleigh Chargers’ forward six. He is still incredibly raw with a number of areas to work on, but is a natural footballer with a good size and traits that catch the eye immediately. Being one of only two overagers to receive a National Draft Combine invite, Sharman does have previous experience in an elite system, have missed out on a chance on the GIANTS Academy before making the move to Victoria. He has to build endurance and work on constructing a more versatile and well-rounded game as a whole, but his ceiling is incredibly high, and his X-factor inside 50 is among the best in the competition.
In terms of his work inside 50, there is not too much you can fault Sharman on. Earlier when he first entered the Oakleigh program, his defensive pressure was something that immediately could improve, after laying four tackles in his first three games combined. He improved that number against the Western Jets to lay four in a game, but then just two over the next three weeks, before three in the NAB League Grand Final. So now Sharman has shown he can produce the defensive effort, it is just doing it more consistently, which will develop with his endurance that has to come with more time spent in elite development. He has come a long way considering he would have been a fair way back compared to many of his draft peers, and bursting onto the scene in the first month since joining the Chargers gave draft watchers and recruiters a real glimpse into what he is capable of even against elite talents. Granted with the Chargers’ midfield it is happy days being a forward, but Sharman’s consistency at hitting the scoreboard – he booted goals in all game bar one, where he also spent time down back in that one – and always looking dangerous, never wavered.
Sharman has the footy smarts to not only kick goals himself, but set up teammates with deft taps to space for them to run onto, or unselfishly give off opportunities to teammates in better positions. He is able to find space inside 50 and exploit holes in the opposition defence, such as in the Grand Final where he found himself unmanned in the goalsquare to convert after uncharacteristically missing a couple of set shots. He only missed four shots in his 18 scoring attempts this season, which was just two from 15 heading into the NAB League decider. His best game came against the Eastern Ranges at Box Hill, where he booted four goals in a tight win, also picking up 18 touches and clunking six marks. His vertical leap makes him hard to beat, outmarking the athletic Emerson Jeka at the same ground a week later on his way to a couple of goals and showing he belonged. Sharman has the footy smarts to mark the ball at the highest point, which is why he is such a damaging forward when he has space in front of him. He rarely misses his opportunities and plays a simple game to influence a match. He has predominantly played inside 50 for most of the season with just a small stint in defence, so his versatility is another area of improvement. His 20m score at the National Draft Combine of 3.18 seconds is not indicative of his speed, with Sharman able to seemingly have a quick burst off the mark, and with that ability to mark at the highest point, causes headaches for opposition defenders. As a whole, Sharman has a long way to go in terms of development, but he makes the most of his opportunities, and is a very exciting talent inside 50.
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