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Who do you expect will get the chop?

Post: # 1903497Post shanegrambeau »

After the massacre, for next week?


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Post: # 1903503Post bobmurray »

Leftlean, Gags and Libba, that would be a good start.
As for the team, how can a club with no depth make big changes.


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Post: # 1903524Post Saintmatt »

Not many; there’s not a lot of soldiers to come in. Our depth is absolutely pathetic


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Post: # 1903525Post Laurie »

Get rid of Zig and Zag at the top theres a start moved on by the AFL from the job only to land at St.Kilda and f### that up as well. BOOM BOOM


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Frawley
Butler
Lonie
Bytel
McKernan

Lucky losers are...

Hill
Geary
King


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Post: # 1903533Post spert »

Ratten


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Re: Who do you expect will get the chop?

Post: # 1903534Post samuraisaint »

Hard to say. As many have said on here, the problem is depth.
Any player who misses next week is not going to be able to return to senior action for some time I wouldn't think.
Although our reserves won for the second week in a row, it was 17th vs 16th - compared to Footscray (2nd) and Geelong (4th). Box Hill Hawks are currently 5th. So that tells you where we are at as a club at present.

To my way of thinking it is our lack of professional player development that is our biggest problem.


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Post: # 1903558Post seano1 »

A big statement with very little to back it up with.... he mentioned wood ...well whoopee ....wow that will scare them his old club


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Post: # 1903563Post saintkev »

seano1 wrote: Sun 23 May 2021 11:02am A big statement with very little to back it up with.... he mentioned wood ...well whoopee ....wow that will scare them his old club
It was an embarrassing, stuttering, stumbling, repetitious shambles of a press conference!!!


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Re: Who do you expect will get the chop?

Post: # 1903567Post saintbob »

Out: Geary, Lonie, Butler, McKernan and Frawley


In: Highmore, Dunstan, Hunter, Wood and Connolly

Higgins and Battle on their last chance.


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Post: # 1903611Post shanegrambeau »

Ghost Like wrote: Sun 23 May 2021 8:15am Frawley
Butler
Lonie
Bytel
McKernan

Lucky losers are...

Hill
Geary
King
How about Battle?
How well is he going?


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Post: # 1903612Post shanegrambeau »

Ghost Like wrote: Sun 23 May 2021 8:15am Frawley
Butler
Lonie
Bytel
McKernan

Lucky losers are...

Hill
Geary
King
How about Battle?
How well is he going?


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Post: # 1903623Post magnifisaint »

shanegrambeau wrote: Sun 23 May 2021 1:20pm
Ghost Like wrote: Sun 23 May 2021 8:15am Frawley
Butler
Lonie
Bytel
McKernan

Lucky losers are...

Hill
Geary
King
How about Battle?
How well is he going?
I agree with all of those except Bytel. Play that kid every week and get rid of the others. Battle isn't living up to his name. He really doesn't look up to it.


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Post: # 1903628Post Teflon »

Battle being used in wrong position imo


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Post: # 1903630Post Banger9798 »

Teflon wrote: Sun 23 May 2021 3:43pm Battle being used in wrong position imo
He should just be given a position for the rest of the year.

CHB is the position he did best in when given an extended run


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Post: # 1903631Post Banger9798 »

Bytel and Byrnes played every week for rest of the year.


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Post: # 1903635Post George27 »

Banger9798 wrote: Sun 23 May 2021 3:48pm Bytel and Byrnes played every week for rest of the year.
Agree - not just with an eye to the future but also because they are making a genuine effort


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magnifisaint wrote: Sun 23 May 2021 2:59pm
shanegrambeau wrote: Sun 23 May 2021 1:20pm
Ghost Like wrote: Sun 23 May 2021 8:15am Frawley
Butler
Lonie
Bytel
McKernan

Lucky losers are...

Hill
Geary
King
How about Battle?
How well is he going?
I agree with all of those except Bytel. Play that kid every week and get rid of the others. Battle isn't living up to his name. He really doesn't look up to it.
True, I will agree with that but there's a point that if they are gifted games it becomes their accepted bench mark. Battle tried yesterday but I'll agree, still below par. Surely after 50 games the "out of position" excuse wears thin. It now means he's played 50 games to not command or demand a position.

Too short for key position, too slow for anywhere else, is where he's at right now. He's better than McKernan and Wood, not exactly glowing & growing.


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Post: # 1903662Post B.M »

People play on merit

No one is guaranteed a spot for the rest of the year

Bytel has been poor of late, I’d spell him


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Re: Who do you expect will get the chop?

Post: # 1903663Post MickThomas »

Battle:
2021 disposals 14. 0 avg
Career 12.5

So he's getting more than usual? Or did he get 50 in one game?


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Post: # 1903675Post saynta »

Battle was far from our wost player last night. At least he has a go and has courage to burn.


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Re: Who do you expect will get the chop?

Post: # 1903677Post freely »

I'd like to see us play only those players who make an effort - whether or not they've previously been thought 'up to it'. I'd keep Byrnes and Bytel for sure. And Battle - and yes, I'd bring in DMac and Dunstan...I don't know how much commitment Joyce and Clavarino and the rest of them have shown in the twos - but that's how I'd pick who's playing next week. I'd probably bring Coffield back in as well if he shows enough heart at training. I know he's out of form but I'd rather have him play than an "in-form" Frawley.

IMO our problem is that we don't have - and don't seem to be trying to build - a stable group of players that can come through together. Our blokes yesterday looked like they met for the first time at training on Tuesday. All these top-up players are fine - great players even. I mean Hill hasn't suddenly lost all his skills! But instead of bringing them into a team that's already cohesive and knows what it's trying to do (the way, say, Geelong has brought in Cameron and Dahlhaus and - crikey - Isaac Smith - I mean they have brought in a serious lot of top-up players!) we've expected our top-up players to BE the cohesive team. To bring in whatever 'team spirit' they had at their other clubs and 'be' our core. Argh.

So yeah - I think knowing what to expect from one another is more important than bringing in a gun mid, much as I'd like us to have a few.

Of course I was also never on team Rotton. He's the first blow-in I'd be blowing off.


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freely wrote: Sun 23 May 2021 5:50pm I'd like to see us play only those players who make an effort - whether or not they've previously been thought 'up to it'. I'd keep Byrnes and Bytel for sure. And Battle - and yes, I'd bring in DMac and Dunstan...I don't know how much commitment Joyce and Clavarino and the rest of them have shown in the twos - but that's how I'd pick who's playing next week. I'd probably bring Coffield back in as well if he shows enough heart at training. I know he's out of form but I'd rather have him play than an "in-form" Frawley.

IMO our problem is that we don't have - and don't seem to be trying to build - a stable group of players that can come through together. Our blokes yesterday looked like they met for the first time at training on Tuesday. All these top-up players are fine - great players even. I mean Hill hasn't suddenly lost all his skills! But instead of bringing them into a team that's already cohesive and knows what it's trying to do (the way, say, Geelong has brought in Cameron and Dahlhaus and - crikey - Isaac Smith - I mean they have brought in a serious lot of top-up players!) we've expected our top-up players to BE the cohesive team. To bring in whatever 'team spirit' they had at their other clubs and 'be' our core. Argh.

So yeah - I think knowing what to expect from one another is more important than bringing in a gun mid, much as I'd like us to have a few.

Of course I was also never on team Rotton. He's the first blow-in I'd be blowing off.
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Post: # 1903696Post saynta »

freely wrote: Sun 23 May 2021 5:50pm I'd like to see us play only those players who make an effort - whether or not they've previously been thought 'up to it'. I'd keep Byrnes and Bytel for sure. And Battle - and yes, I'd bring in DMac and Dunstan...I don't know how much commitment Joyce and Clavarino and the rest of them have shown in the twos - but that's how I'd pick who's playing next week. I'd probably bring Coffield back in as well if he shows enough heart at training. I know he's out of form but I'd rather have him play than an "in-form" Frawley.

IMO our problem is that we don't have - and don't seem to be trying to build - a stable group of players that can come through together. Our blokes yesterday looked like they met for the first time at training on Tuesday. All these top-up players are fine - great players even. I mean Hill hasn't suddenly lost all his skills! But instead of bringing them into a team that's already cohesive and knows what it's trying to do (the way, say, Geelong has brought in Cameron and Dahlhaus and - crikey - Isaac Smith - I mean they have brought in a serious lot of top-up players!) we've expected our top-up players to BE the cohesive team. To bring in whatever 'team spirit' they had at their other clubs and 'be' our core. Argh.

So yeah - I think knowing what to expect from one another is more important than bringing in a gun mid, much as I'd like us to have a few.

Of course I was also never on team Rotton. He's the first blow-in I'd be blowing off.
Good comments although a bit tough on Ratts. I think the guys delisted in the off season may be missed by their team mates more than is being let on. Savage, Phillips and Parker would be handy now.

We replaced them with cast off and duds, Fumble bum, Wood, Frawley and Hunter. What the f*** were they thinking.

Someone deserves to get the chop for that., More than one actually.

If they don't see this mid season draft as a god send and don't draft four young ones who were not given a chance to shine last year,
I will be really spewing.

That opportunity is never going to come around again. Never.

Drafting young Josh Green would be a good starting point.
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