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Marshall’s foot

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Could barely walk on it after the match today.

Must really take some management and jabs, he’s clearly playing under duress.

You’d think he may need some management.


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Does he train during the week?


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I'm in the "conservative treatment, get it right" camp regarding any foot injury to this young gun!


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SaintPav wrote: Sat 08 May 2021 8:54pm Does he train during the week?
Good question, would anyone who attends training comment?


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IMO err on the side of caution give him the game off & see how that works. If he feels he has made significant improvement then consider him the following week if he hasn't give him another week off & keep repeating the same process until he is ready.


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That could be never.

Players play injured all the time. Many do.


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Was it definitely the foot that was causing duress? Could have been a leg injury.


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SaintPav wrote: Sun 09 May 2021 9:03pm That could be never.

Players play injured all the time. Many do.
IMO you can play injured but if that injury is going to impact your performance & long term availability I would err on the side of caution especially for a bloke as important as Marshall


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If he thinks he can play you play him


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If he thinks he can play you play him


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magnifisaint wrote: Sun 09 May 2021 10:09pm If he thinks he can play you play him
Fair call he is the only bloke that will know for sure :wink:


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Joffa Burns wrote: Sat 08 May 2021 9:25pm
SaintPav wrote: Sat 08 May 2021 8:54pm Does he train during the week?
Good question, would anyone who attends training comment?
Probably trains 50%. Lately Billing’s doesn’t train at all.


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Would be incredibly handy to have him available for this game.


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Dilemma. Might make the finals, unlikely but might. Improbable would win a final even if we made it unless got Eagles at Marvel. Two of top 5 most important players can't train (not even considering that Hannebery fellow). Rest and recovery them and just see what happens draft wise, work on structures/team work, developing players, testing players, testing roles for the future; or risk long term injury and sub par performances by the injured anyway and end up worse off than otherwise longer term. Do sponsors think strategic longer term? Are coaches allowed that luxury?


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Rest him winning this long shot
Plan for next year as we are at best scraping into 8 more likely 9-12


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If he's training 50% of the time during the week then he should be ok to play.

I think the issue is the 6 daybreak which doesn't give him sufficient time to recover. Plenty of 7 and 8 day breaks after this week then the bye at round 13.


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Yorkeys wrote: Mon 10 May 2021 7:45am Dilemma. Might make the finals, unlikely but might. Improbable would win a final even if we made it unless got Eagles at Marvel. Two of top 5 most important players can't train (not even considering that Hannebery fellow). Rest and recovery them and just see what happens draft wise, work on structures/team work, developing players, testing players, testing roles for the future; or risk long term injury and sub par performances by the injured anyway and end up worse off than otherwise longer term. Do sponsors think strategic longer term? Are coaches allowed that luxury?
Yes, short-termism really is a problem, but conceding at 4 4 is a losing mentality.

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lewdogs wrote: Sun 09 May 2021 9:09pm Was it definitely the foot that was causing duress? Could have been a leg injury.
No idea, just my assumption.
Tony seems to confirm with his comments on Marshall & Billings training.


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Joffa Burns wrote: Mon 10 May 2021 10:42am
lewdogs wrote: Sun 09 May 2021 9:09pm Was it definitely the foot that was causing duress? Could have been a leg injury.
No idea, just my assumption.
Tony seems to confirm with his comments on Marshall & Billings training.
It's concerning, but I guess they have this same plantar fascia issue, which seems to be one that just gets better over time.

Probably the most important thing for Marshall is that it isn't the stress fracture issue. Fingers crossed.


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All of this is just uninformed speculation, I'd prefer to wait and hear what the club says as he is not listed as injured.

Just last Thursday playing golf I suffered an injury to my plantar fascia ligament on the 1st hole and hobbled around with a sore heel for the next 3 hours, treated it with ice twice daily since and it feels manageable.

From a previous episode on my other foot years ago I found that carving a hole in the orthotic sole at the place of the pain in the heel takes all the pressure off the bursa - reckon that should enable him to keep playing.

It's quite likely that there are quite a few players carrying this injury that continue to play each week.


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He's training today apparently and looks fine.


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Yes, but for the one legged egg and spoon race.


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Sanctorum wrote: Mon 10 May 2021 11:16am
Just last Thursday playing golf I suffered an injury to my plantar fascia ligament on the 1st hole and hobbled around with a sore heel for the next 3 hours, treated it with ice twice daily since and it feels manageable.
Will you be right for Friday nights match? :wink:


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Joffa Burns wrote: Mon 10 May 2021 9:08pm
Sanctorum wrote: Mon 10 May 2021 11:16am
Just last Thursday playing golf I suffered an injury to my plantar fascia ligament on the 1st hole and hobbled around with a sore heel for the next 3 hours, treated it with ice twice daily since and it feels manageable.
Will you be right for Friday nights match? :wink:
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magnifisaint wrote: Mon 10 May 2021 9:23pm
Joffa Burns wrote: Mon 10 May 2021 9:08pm
Sanctorum wrote: Mon 10 May 2021 11:16am
Just last Thursday playing golf I suffered an injury to my plantar fascia ligament on the 1st hole and hobbled around with a sore heel for the next 3 hours, treated it with ice twice daily since and it feels manageable.
Will you be right for Friday nights match? :wink:
You need to jump off the kitchen table!
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