Question about King?

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Re: Question about King?

Post: # 1898762Post sunsaint »

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Re: Question about King?

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Ghost Like wrote: Tue 27 Apr 2021 12:32pm
shanegrambeau wrote: Tue 27 Apr 2021 10:26am
Ghost Like wrote: Tue 27 Apr 2021 8:40am
bigred wrote: Tue 27 Apr 2021 12:25am Combination of a congested F50, or even F25 and a generally poor forward structure regardless.

King needs to run at the ball more, but the issue is that there are 14 other players in our F50 because we are so slow and shyte with our ball movement.

But we are breaking down in the guts just too regularly and our insipid lack of run is generating even more of these shyte entries.

No question he needs to work harder.

Much, much harder.
Spot on! Never has our lack of spread from the centre been more evident than in these 3 huge losses. Each Port midfielder led their opponent from the guts.

Then once the ball was in their possession we could not get it back. Not only were we zoning, we were slow across each line. No wonder we couldn't get the ball back.

As a defender, defensive winger, what is wrong with the old 10, 2, zero instruction depending on where the ball is on the ground? With 6, 6, 6 this makes even more sense.
I am not sure about Maxy.
Look at Essendon. They’re not much chop, so far.
Look what they have already unearthed in young Cox.
200cm.
He looks about 18.
Can’t have played a dozen games.
Look what he is already doing for them.
It's a bit different being able to run free on the wing and through the middle to Full Forward, let's be fair.
Not sure what you mean.

Why can't King do what Cox does? Play on a wing and swing forward, swapping with say a Higgins or Sinclair and mixing up our forward set up.

I would suggest our predictability has hurt us.

Can Maxy do it? He is agile and mobile.


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Re: Question about King?

Post: # 1898770Post B.M »

Aren’t the King twin supposed to be super fast

Hardly ever see Max clear of his opponent


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Re: Question about King?

Post: # 1899046Post repta »

King cant do what Cox and other big guys do.

He has a Motorcycle sized tank strapped to a V8 engine.


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Post: # 1899055Post shanegrambeau »

Right now I am guessing Essendon wouldn’t swap Cox for Maxy even if it was for free.

So Maxy will kick ten this week...and silence our rumblings..


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Post: # 1899068Post Ghost Like »

I can't believe how some get distracted by the shiny new toys as they toss their others out the cot. Almost like our recruiters who drafted Frost.

Cox appears very good, being touted as the future in midfielders. Let's revisit this in 2025.


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Re: Question about King?

Post: # 1899106Post Zed »

I actually think he needs to spend half a season at Sandy.
Learn and encourage him to dominate and be “the man” at a lower level
Will take him 3 times as long to learn that at senior level.


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Post: # 1899123Post shanegrambeau »

repta wrote: Thu 29 Apr 2021 4:23pm King cant do what Cox and other big guys do.

He has a Motorcycle sized tank strapped to a V8 engine.
It shall be done.

Presenting Max King's motorbike.


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Post: # 1899136Post repta »

Thats gold.

What you can do with too much time (and money).

Not sure if the comparison is good or bad now... one thing for sure is that it could be a hell of a ride !!!!


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Re: Question about King?

Post: # 1899139Post spert »

leighsaintsince66 wrote: Tue 27 Apr 2021 3:20pm
B.M wrote: Mon 26 Apr 2021 1:12am Thilthorpe took 1 game

And he is 18

The biggest concern is his total lack of aggression and presence!

Roo might have had some other talls, but make no mistake, he was the number 1 banana.

He took 256 marks in 04 was AA centre half forward AFLPA MVP and B&F and he did this as a 21yo
He was the best forward in the game, probably the best player in 04
Perhaps a better comparison is with Tony Lockett as both are full forwards.
Max is almost 21. At the age of 21 Tony won a Brownlow Medal and kicked 117 goals.
Notwithstanding that the StKilda team of 1987 was not the best.
Let's wait and see how Max performs at the same age. Best wishes Max...
I watched Plugger in his first few senior games, and had a lot more aggression at the ball than Max, worked hard to get in front and and looked every bit a natural key forward in the making then, but Max doesn't look comfortable as a KPF. Get him up the ground and moving around.


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Post: # 1899461Post Scollop »

Zed wrote: Thu 29 Apr 2021 10:47pm I actually think he needs to spend half a season at Sandy.
Learn and encourage him to dominate and be “the man” at a lower level
Will take him 3 times as long to learn that at senior level.
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Re: Question about King?

Post: # 1899467Post B.M »

Showed some signs today

Kicking is a worry

It’s like a soft little 4 Iron

Needs to be more like a full 6 Iron


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Re: Question about King?

Post: # 1899468Post bangaulegend »

He was ok today nothing special but still contributed & contested all game I think we expect too much from him at such an early stage but I'm confident he will only get better with more game time & more conditioning


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Re: Question about King?

Post: # 1899471Post perfectionist »

He needs a lot more muscle and lot more fitness. He gets out of breath running out onto the ground.


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Post: # 1899477Post asiu »

thats , unbelievably good


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He his raw.


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Re: Question about King?

Post: # 1899481Post Trev from the Bush »

A solid four quarters by the big fella. Very good in the air, excellent at ground level.

Only his 23rd game tonight and he is a key position forward. I'd highly suggest people get off his case for fear he will make you look like fools.


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Post: # 1899483Post Darth Vader »

23 games. Seriously.


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Post: # 1899487Post Wayne42 »

Battle of the King Twins next weekend. :lol:


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Post: # 1899496Post MC Gusto »

Trev from the Bush wrote: Sat 01 May 2021 9:42pm A solid four quarters by the big fella. Very good in the air, excellent at ground level.

Only his 23rd game tonight and he is a key position forward. I'd highly suggest people get off his case for fear he will make you look like fools.
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spert wrote: Fri 30 Apr 2021 10:33am
leighsaintsince66 wrote: Tue 27 Apr 2021 3:20pm
B.M wrote: Mon 26 Apr 2021 1:12am Thilthorpe took 1 game

And he is 18

The biggest concern is his total lack of aggression and presence!

Roo might have had some other talls, but make no mistake, he was the number 1 banana.

He took 256 marks in 04 was AA centre half forward AFLPA MVP and B&F and he did this as a 21yo
He was the best forward in the game, probably the best player in 04
Perhaps a better comparison is with Tony Lockett as both are full forwards.
Max is almost 21. At the age of 21 Tony won a Brownlow Medal and kicked 117 goals.
Notwithstanding that the StKilda team of 1987 was not the best.
Let's wait and see how Max performs at the same age. Best wishes Max...
I watched Plugger in his first few senior games, and had a lot more aggression at the ball than Max, worked hard to get in front and and looked every bit a natural key forward in the making then, but Max doesn't look comfortable as a KPF. Get him up the ground and moving around.
I remember watching Plugger in his first game he was playing in the forward pocket and kept getting in the way of our marquee full forward Jacko...


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Post: # 1899503Post Enrico_Misso »

Kicked one of the great points in the 4th quarter with his athletic recovery and great groundwork.
Deserved a goal.


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Post: # 1899505Post samuraisaint »

Enrico_Misso wrote: Sat 01 May 2021 11:19pm Kicked one of the great points in the 4th quarter with his athletic recovery and great groundwork.
Deserved a goal.
hit the top of the goal post - unlucky.


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Re: Question about King?

Post: # 1899508Post Teflon »

23 games I’m not even worried
He’s still getting hands on plenty
I’d like to see him lead up more and kickers on it as he’d be unstoppable


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Re: Question about King?

Post: # 1899549Post HarryM »

Zed wrote: Thu 29 Apr 2021 10:47pm I actually think he needs to spend half a season at Sandy.
Learn and encourage him to dominate and be “the man” at a lower level
Will take him 3 times as long to learn that at senior level.
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