I believe the delisting of Savage is a mistake.

[saynta]

Am entertained by the evolution of the rat’s tossbag.

No evolution afaic. That has been my saying for years.

[SaintPelican66]

THe salary cap must be getting tight for the Saints, with big money going to Hanneberry, Hill, Couch etc
Also with the emergence of next next tier (Clarke, Wilke, Battle, King ,Coffield) they would be looking at future planning.
Cant afford to dump Dmac for someone like Savage. All it would do is use up valuable salary cap space for mediocre players.

Savage is just in the wrong place at the wrong time.

Cant see him being rookied.

WRONG.

As I said above, if we pay him out now it would go into this years salary cap (TPP).

[asiu]

ol’ Stinger used to say it
.. a lot , as i remember things

... reckon he should get the kudos ay

[st.byron]

ol’ Stinger used to say it
.. a lot , as i remember things

... reckon he should get the kudos ay

Yes you’re right. I think that Stinger guy used to say that. I remember it as just a rat’s tossbag. Then the rat became fat and now it’s also half eaten.

[Joffa Burns]

one feels its safe to say
... no offer of two years wages in advance
has been made
for said player to find something else to do with his days
... unencumbered

who in their right mind
would not take that ?

Perhaps someone who still feels he something to offer in the seniors and is desperate to get a shot at it.

[damienc]

If he can't get a game, what is the point of keeping him? He's not a development project or a green kid trying to make it.

Savage is an established AFL footballer, who thanks to an influx of major new talent, can no longer hold a regular spot in our team.

I think that is pretty much the long and the short. I would have thought.

[asiu]

one feels its safe to say
... no offer of two years wages in advance
has been made
for said player to find something else to do with his days
... unencumbered

who in their right mind
would not take that ?

Perhaps someone who still feels he something to offer in the seniors and is desperate to get a shot at it.

gaz finds himself ... of no speech

hmmm

there’s a certain ‘self belief’ in that scenario
thats impressive

with a new contract negotiated in 2 years
or not ... as long term motivation


hmmmmm

a teaser.

good morning to you too Mr Burns

[asiu]

ol’ Stinger used to say it
.. a lot , as i remember things

... reckon he should get the kudos ay

Yes you’re right. I think that Stinger guy used to say that. I remember it as just a rat’s tossbag. Then the rat became fat and now it’s also half eaten.

he’s been ... hairy arsed

[ace]

Damn it Gags, offer Savage a rookie contract immediately.
He can be retained if he refuses other clubs offers to senior list him.
Now he doesn't have to go through any draft process.
A rookie or a senior list it doesn't really matter except $80,000 of a rookie contract does not count against the salary cap.

[CQ SAINT]

one feels its safe to say
... no offer of two years wages in advance
has been made
for said player to find something else to do with his days
... unencumbered

who in their right mind
would not take that ?

Perhaps someone who still feels he something to offer in the seniors and is desperate to get a shot at it.

gaz finds himself ... of no speech

hmmm

there’s a certain ‘self belief’ in that scenario
thats impressive

with a new contract negotiated in 2 years
or not ... as long term motivation


hmmmmm

a teaser.

good morning to you too Mr Burns

He has nothing to gain in his headspace by leaving, nothing at all.

[Saintmatt]

Who said we were trying to dump Ross apart from a few fake ITK's on this site. Certainly the saints admin weren't.

That's the sort of bulls*** posting posing as fact that makes trade week so unbearable on this forum

If you think the Saints weren't trying to dump Ross (and others' salaries) in a bid to get Treloar then you're even more blindly loyal and naïve than first thought. Very few players are off-limits. Who would've thought Treloar was treadeable on day 1 of trade period?

Of course St Kilda was never going to say - after they couldn't get it done - "look, we tried to get rid of a few players but other clubs wouldn't take their salary cost on because they're not worth what we're paying them".

How 'bout you look at it logically for once - a 27 yo - 2 time B & F winning midfielder - should walk into every other teams' midfield group. And yet - no takers. And that's for one of two reasons - either the skill-set doesn't hit the level and/or the cost to acquire that skill-set doesn't match the output.

[saynta]

Who said we were trying to dump Ross apart from a few fake ITK's on this site. Certainly the saints admin weren't.

That's the sort of bulls*** posting posing as fact that makes trade week so unbearable on this forum

If you think the Saints weren't trying to dump Ross (and others' salaries) in a bid to get Treloar then you're even more blindly loyal and naïve than first thought. Very few players are off-limits. Who would've thought Treloar was treadeable on day 1 of trade period?

Of course St Kilda was never going to say - after they couldn't get it done - "look, we tried to get rid of a few players but other clubs wouldn't take their salary cost on because they're not worth what we're paying them".

How 'bout you look at it logically for once - a 27 yo - 2 time B & F winning midfielder - should walk into every other teams' midfield group. And yet - no takers. And that's for one of two reasons - either the skill-set doesn't hit the level and/or the cost to acquire that skill-set doesn't match the output.

There were no takers matty boy because he was never f****** offered and you can take that as read.

Gives me the s***s that certain posters who originally claimed that Seb was no good and should be traded , ..to the f****** drug cheats, no less.. ...have gotten their knickers in a knot ever since he started winning trevor barker medals and they continue to denigrate him to this day. Never given any praise on here, ...or votes ...despite coming in the top ten in the B and F once again.

Don't believe me? Have a look at the votes on SS compared to the votes that got him 10th spot in the B&f

Anyway, Treloar has issues and the saints were aware of them and not were simply not interested in him..

[asiu]

except ... freedom and pockets overflowing with fun coupons

[Sanctorum]

Who said we were trying to dump Ross apart from a few fake ITK's on this site. Certainly the saints admin weren't.

That's the sort of bulls*** posting posing as fact that makes trade week so unbearable on this forum

If you think the Saints weren't trying to dump Ross (and others' salaries) in a bid to get Treloar then you're even more blindly loyal and naïve than first thought. Very few players are off-limits. Who would've thought Treloar was treadeable on day 1 of trade period?

Of course St Kilda was never going to say - after they couldn't get it done - "look, we tried to get rid of a few players but other clubs wouldn't take their salary cost on because they're not worth what we're paying them".

How 'bout you look at it logically for once - a 27 yo - 2 time B & F winning midfielder - should walk into every other teams' midfield group. And yet - no takers. And that's for one of two reasons - either the skill-set doesn't hit the level and/or the cost to acquire that skill-set doesn't match the output.

Or the Collingwood story that they feared with his wife and baby living in Qld Treloar would have issues in dealing with the separation in 2021, which like it or not is a real possibility in this modern age of shared parenting.

[CQ SAINT]

except ... freedom and pockets overflowing with fun coupons

money would most likely be gone before the 2 years owing, when the cost of real life living sets in, after the freedom wears off and the lifestyle turns to s***.
AFL Retirement at 25, sounds like a slow death in hell. I guess he could just get a regular job or learn to kick straight on the run.

[Saintmatt]

Who said we were trying to dump Ross apart from a few fake ITK's on this site. Certainly the saints admin weren't.

That's the sort of bulls*** posting posing as fact that makes trade week so unbearable on this forum

If you think the Saints weren't trying to dump Ross (and others' salaries) in a bid to get Treloar then you're even more blindly loyal and naïve than first thought. Very few players are off-limits. Who would've thought Treloar was treadeable on day 1 of trade period?

Of course St Kilda was never going to say - after they couldn't get it done - "look, we tried to get rid of a few players but other clubs wouldn't take their salary cost on because they're not worth what we're paying them".

How 'bout you look at it logically for once - a 27 yo - 2 time B & F winning midfielder - should walk into every other teams' midfield group. And yet - no takers. And that's for one of two reasons - either the skill-set doesn't hit the level and/or the cost to acquire that skill-set doesn't match the output.

There were no takers matty boy because he was never f****** offered and you can take that as read.

Gives me the s***s that certain posters who originally claimed that Seb was no good and should be traded , ..to the f****** drug cheats, no less.. ...have gotten their knickers in a knot ever since he started winning trevor barker medals and continue to denigrate him to this day. Never given any praise on here, ...or votes ...despite coming in the top ten in the B and F once again.

Anyway, Treloar has issues and the saints were aware of them and not interested.

I take your point but, blind loyalty to Seb is unhealthy. For the record, I thought Seb was awful in patches this year until given a role and then was largely quite effective (except that awful night on Tim Kelly). In fact, Seb was heaps better towards to the end of the year and played a good 1st final against the Dogs.

That said - I don't see where there's a regular spot for him in 2021. Crouch replaces him and the best I can see for Seb is that Hannebery is injured - then he comes in as cover.

[meher baba]

I doubt we were ever seriously after Treloar. Too many questions about why he was leaving. Thinking that it was all because Buckley is an a*****le is naive.

[asiu]

lol @ learn to kick straight on the run

certainly easier than getting a real job
... in theory

[saynta]

Who said we were trying to dump Ross apart from a few fake ITK's on this site. Certainly the saints admin weren't.

That's the sort of bulls*** posting posing as fact that makes trade week so unbearable on this forum

If you think the Saints weren't trying to dump Ross (and others' salaries) in a bid to get Treloar then you're even more blindly loyal and naïve than first thought. Very few players are off-limits. Who would've thought Treloar was treadeable on day 1 of trade period?

Of course St Kilda was never going to say - after they couldn't get it done - "look, we tried to get rid of a few players but other clubs wouldn't take their salary cost on because they're not worth what we're paying them".

How 'bout you look at it logically for once - a 27 yo - 2 time B & F winning midfielder - should walk into every other teams' midfield group. And yet - no takers. And that's for one of two reasons - either the skill-set doesn't hit the level and/or the cost to acquire that skill-set doesn't match the output.

There were no takers matty boy because he was never f****** offered and you can take that as read.

Gives me the s***s that certain posters who originally claimed that Seb was no good and should be traded , ..to the f****** drug cheats, no less.. ...have gotten their knickers in a knot ever since he started winning trevor barker medals and continue to denigrate him to this day. Never given any praise on here, ...or votes ...despite coming in the top ten in the B and F once again.

Anyway, Treloar has issues and the saints were aware of them and not interested.

I take your point but, blind loyalty to Seb is unhealthy. For the record, I thought Seb was awful in patches this year until given a role and then was largely quite effective (except that awful night on Tim Kelly). In fact, Seb was heaps better towards to the end of the year and played a good 1st final against the Dogs.

That said - I don't see where there's a regular spot for him in 2021. Crouch replaces him and the best I can see for Seb is that Hannebery is injured - then he comes in as cover.

We will see and time will tell if one of us is right.

Makes me wanna laugh at all the really "blind" supporters who for some reason believe that the saints will have their best 22 players fit and available for selection for all of the 22 rounds plus finals in 2021.

For mine, what you call blind loyalty, I call common sense, a little knowledge and football nous .

[saynta]

I doubt we were ever seriously after Treloar. Too many questions about why he was leaving. Thinking that it was all because Buckley is an a*****le is naive.

At last someone with a bit of common sense.

The posters on here are full of rightful praise for our list management team, yet are falling over themselves looking for reasons why we didn't recruit Treloar.

If our guys wanted him, going on past performances, you would think they would have got the deal done.

The reality is more than likely they just weren't interested. And for good reason.

[SaintPelican66]

I doubt we were ever seriously after Treloar. Too many questions about why he was leaving. Thinking that it was all because Buckley is an a*****le is naive.

At last someone with a bit of common sense.

The posters on here are full of rightful praise for our list management team, yet are falling over themselves looking for reasons why we didn't recruit Treloar.

If our guys wanted him, going on past performances, you would think they would have got the deal done.

The reality is more than likely they just weren't interested. And for good reason.

WRONG. The reality is that they did want him. Unfortunately they could not offload Dunstan, McKenzie and to a lesser extent Lonie. If they could have then there would have been enough room in the TPP and we would have traded for him.

[saynta]

I doubt we were ever seriously after Treloar. Too many questions about why he was leaving. Thinking that it was all because Buckley is an a*****le is naive.

At last someone with a bit of common sense.

The posters on here are full of rightful praise for our list management team, yet are falling over themselves looking for reasons why we didn't recruit Treloar.

If our guys wanted him, going on past performances, you would think they would have got the deal done.

The reality is more than likely they just weren't interested. And for good reason.

WRONG. The reality is that they did want him. Unfortunately they could not offload Dunstan, McKenzie and to a lesser extent Lonie. If they could have then there would have been enough room in the TPP and we would have traded for him.

Where is your proof. You posting that has no credibility with me and doesn't make it so.

[SaintPelican66]

I doubt we were ever seriously after Treloar. Too many questions about why he was leaving. Thinking that it was all because Buckley is an a*****le is naive.

At last someone with a bit of common sense.

The posters on here are full of rightful praise for our list management team, yet are falling over themselves looking for reasons why we didn't recruit Treloar.

If our guys wanted him, going on past performances, you would think they would have got the deal done.

The reality is more than likely they just weren't interested. And for good reason.

WRONG. The reality is that they did want him. Unfortunately they could not offload Dunstan, McKenzie and to a lesser extent Lonie. If they could have then there would have been enough room in the TPP and we would have traded for him.

Where is your proof. You posting that has no credibility with me and doesn't make it so.

You know it's true Saynta with a capital S. You also know we go way back.

[asiu]

so

... not enough room in player payments to recruit
mr treloar but then we should have paid out mr mckenzie
to keep mr savage

ok

[saynta]

I doubt we were ever seriously after Treloar. Too many questions about why he was leaving. Thinking that it was all because Buckley is an a*****le is naive.

At last someone with a bit of common sense.

The posters on here are full of rightful praise for our list management team, yet are falling over themselves looking for reasons why we didn't recruit Treloar.

If our guys wanted him, going on past performances, you would think they would have got the deal done.

The reality is more than likely they just weren't interested. And for good reason.

WRONG. The reality is that they did want him. Unfortunately they could not offload Dunstan, McKenzie and to a lesser extent Lonie. If they could have then there would have been enough room in the TPP and we would have traded for him.

Where is your proof. You posting that has no credibility with me and doesn't make it so.

You know it's true Saynta with a capital S. You also know we go way back.

You and me go way back? What utter rubbish. Stop peddling s*** or piss off back to big shitty ffs.