Treloar

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Absolutely brilliant Fugazi

[Josh Battle]

I can’t see us affording Treloar...Pies offered $350k in yr 1 and $275k yr 2-3, $250k yr 4-5 and no picks or players.

It’s clear that Collingwood are paying up to a third of Adam’s salary. The Doggies were the big winners from the trade period

What could have been if we’d secured Treloar...I’m seriously pissed off that we couldn’t sell Dunny, Jimmy or Lonie

If we didn’t offer such huge contracts to Hill and Dan Hannebery, perhaps we could have squeezed him in

I wonder if we’d have gone as hard for Crouch if we knew that Adam was going to be available?

It’ll be interesting to compare Brad Crouch next year with the output from Treloar.

It’ll be interesting to see if Luke Dunstan, Jack Lonie, Dylan Roberton and Jimmy Webster can get regular games

Hannas and Hill need to play significant roles for the Saints to secure another finals berth in 2021 or else

They better perform or they will have the Saintsational mob venting here on a weekly basis!!

[Trev from the Bush]

I can’t see us affording Treloar...Pies offered $350k in yr 1 and $275k yr 2-3, $250k yr 4-5 and no picks or players.

It’s clear that Collingwood are paying up to a third of Adam’s salary. The Doggies were the big winners from the trade period

What could have been if we’d secured Treloar...I’m seriously pissed off that we couldn’t sell Dunny, Jimmy or Lonie

If we didn’t offer such huge contracts to Hill and Dan Hannebery, perhaps we could have squeezed him in

I wonder if we’d have gone as hard for Crouch if we knew that Adam was going to be available?

It’ll be interesting to compare Brad Crouch next year with the output from Treloar.

It’ll be interesting to see if Luke Dunstan, Jack Lonie, Dylan Roberton and Jimmy Webster can get regular games

Hannas and Hill need to play significant roles for the Saints to secure another finals berth in 2021 or else

They better perform or they will have the Saintsational mob venting here on a weekly basis!!

If we hadn't offered "such huge" contracts to Hannas and Hill - they most likely would be at other clubs and we would still be struggling in the lower end of the middle rung clubs. I've grown tired of posters pissing on the shoes of the likes of Dunstan, Lonie, Roberton and Webster. It's called depth. The same strength that has allowed us to obtain the likes of Butler and Higgins from Richmond and, for that matter, release Hind for greater opportunities at Essendon. I value the depth we have now after years of wading in the shallows.

[Josh Battle]

It’s clear that Collingwood are paying up to a third of Adam’s salary. The Doggies were the big winners from the trade period

What could have been if we’d secured Treloar...I’m seriously pissed off that we couldn’t sell Dunny, Jimmy or Lonie

If we didn’t offer such huge contracts to Hill and Dan Hannebery, perhaps we could have squeezed him in

I wonder if we’d have gone as hard for Crouch if we knew that Adam was going to be available?

It’ll be interesting to compare Brad Crouch next year with the output from Treloar.

It’ll be interesting to see if Luke Dunstan, Jack Lonie, Dylan Roberton and Jimmy Webster can get regular games

Hannas and Hill need to play significant roles for the Saints to secure another finals berth in 2021 or else

They better perform or they will have the Saintsational mob venting here on a weekly basis!!

If we hadn't offered "such huge" contracts to Hannas and Hill - they most likely would be at other clubs and we would still be struggling in the lower end of the middle rung clubs.

That’s debatable. The change off field (Ratts/Roughy/Rath) coupled with the growth of Steele, Coff, Clark, Long, Battle and the inclusions of other players have had more of an impact on our win loss ratio than the additions of Hannas and Hill...imo

I’d go so far as to say Hannas wasn’t the catalyst that some people claim him to be, that supposedly got the ball rolling with players wanting to come to St Kilda. We basically offered people like Howard, Jones, Butler and Ryder the opportunities that they wanted and the roles that they wanted.

Ratten has been more influential and he was the magnet. We also offered Howard, Jones and Butler more money than they were on.

The role that Hill performs is important, but he’s replaceable in my opinion because he relies on receiving the footy from others far too much. Hannas and his lack of games due to his soft tissue injuries has been conveniently forgotten with the fantastic efforts of the team this year, and the terrific position we find ourselves as a whole club, but it remains a problem. I wonder if he is doing anything over the summer to strengthen his legs?

I’ve grown tired of posters pissing on the shoes of the likes of Dunstan, Lonie, Roberton and Webster. It's called depth. The same strength that has allowed us to obtain the likes of Butler and Higgins from Richmond and, for that matter, release Hind for greater opportunities at Essendon. I value the depth we have now after years of wading in the shallows.

I agree with that. I don’t think Dunny or Jimmy will be out of place if they get senior games and get back to their best

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Absolutely brilliant Fugazi

You took the words right out of my mouth.

[saynta]

I can’t see us affording Treloar...Pies offered $350k in yr 1 and $275k yr 2-3, $250k yr 4-5 and no picks or players.

It’s clear that Collingwood are paying up to a third of Adam’s salary. The Doggies were the big winners from the trade period

What could have been if we’d secured Treloar...I’m seriously pissed off that we couldn’t sell Dunny, Jimmy or Lonie

If we didn’t offer such huge contracts to Hill and Dan Hannebery, perhaps we could have squeezed him in

I wonder if we’d have gone as hard for Crouch if we knew that Adam was going to be available?

It’ll be interesting to compare Brad Crouch next year with the output from Treloar.

It’ll be interesting to see if Luke Dunstan, Jack Lonie, Dylan Roberton and Jimmy Webster can get regular games

Hannas and Hill need to play significant roles for the Saints to secure another finals berth in 2021 or else

They better perform or they will have the Saintsational mob venting here on a weekly basis!!

They will anyway. Not happy unless they are denigrating some poor player. Not sure who it will be next year. Poor Seb probably with Billings not far behind.

[saintsRrising]

Dogs big winners in trade period.

On the surface yes, but this could easily go pear shaped like their pick ups of last season.

Martin looked well below what he used to be this year. Next year he may be worse again.

If they play him and English do they sit out a key forward or play one less mid?

If they play English as a forward then Martin as No 1 ruck is a minor upgrade on English.

If they play one less mid then that hurts their rotations.

The Dogs were already chock full of good mids and so unless Treloar has retained his pace he may not really improve them as their midfield was pretty good anyway.

And then maybe he is not really overgoing hammies and there may or may not be interpersonal issues.

On the other hand Treloar may add midfield breakaway dash that they have lacked and Martin may may 34 surprise.

The irony too with Martin is that perhaps he squeezes Bruce out of the 22.

[Ghost Like]

Crouch wanted to join us, cost us a 4/5 year contract. Higgins cost us bugger all. Treloar may play well, he may want to prove a point, he may break down. It's done, we had a plan for now and seems like we have a plan for next year & beyond.

We are infinitely better with Hannebery & Hill at the club, their salaries will lessen. I'd rather be us now than us anytime post 2013 to 2019.

I liken this to bemoaning losing Bruce because he wanted a longer deal & more money. Best thing we never did!!!

The ones who are depth now were our best 22 a couple of years ago. What's that rear view mirror thingo & grass is greener thingo & letting coblers coble thingo???

Bring on 2021, bring on our 2nd flag!!!

[ace]

I can’t see us affording Treloar...Pies offered $350k in yr 1 and $275k yr 2-3, $250k yr 4-5 and no picks or players.

It’s clear that Collingwood are paying up to a third of Adam’s salary. The Doggies were the big winners from the trade period

What could have been if we’d secured Treloar...I’m seriously pissed off that we couldn’t sell Dunny, Jimmy or Lonie

If we didn’t offer such huge contracts to Hill and Dan Hannebery, perhaps we could have squeezed him in

I wonder if we’d have gone as hard for Crouch if we knew that Adam was going to be available?

It’ll be interesting to compare Brad Crouch next year with the output from Treloar.

It’ll be interesting to see if Luke Dunstan, Jack Lonie, Dylan Roberton and Jimmy Webster can get regular games

Hannas and Hill need to play significant roles for the Saints to secure another finals berth in 2021 or else

They better perform or they will have the Saintsational mob venting here on a weekly basis!!

If we hadn't offered "such huge" contracts to Hannas and Hill - they most likely would be at other clubs and we would still be struggling in the lower end of the middle rung clubs. I've grown tired of posters pissing on the shoes of the likes of Dunstan, Lonie, Roberton and Webster. It's called depth. The same strength that has allowed us to obtain the likes of Butler and Higgins from Richmond and, for that matter, release Hind for greater opportunities at Essendon. I value the depth we have now after years of wading in the shallows.

A top clubs depth is a bottom clubs best 22.

[saintsRrising]

Crouch wanted to join us, cost us a 4/5 year contract. Higgins cost us bugger all. Treloar may play well, he may want to prove a point, he may break down. It's done, we had a plan for now and seems like we have a plan for next year & beyond.

We are infinitely better with Hannebery & Hill at the club, their salaries will lessen. I'd rather be us now than us anytime post 2013 to 2019.

I liken this to bemoaning losing Bruce because he wanted a longer deal & more money. Best thing we never did!!!

The ones who are depth now were our best 22 a couple of years ago. What's that rear view mirror thingo & grass is greener thingo & letting coblers coble thingo???

Bring on 2021, bring on our 2nd flag!!!

Yes best depth we have ever had combined with a better first 22. Competition for first 22 spots will be huge.

Virtually all of our players will be either the same or better in 2021. Geary maybe not. Ryder I think has at least one good year left in him. Maybe two.

King and Howard will both hopefully hit the weights room. Ryder to reach Marshall how to palm better. Coffield, Clark and Gresh to all be better. Paton the quiet achiever as is Battle.

Long still raw but was a lot better this year in defence.

If Clark does become a mid in 2021 then we have good options in Long, Webster and Savage.

Hannas has not be a regular and so if he can be that would be the cherry on the top.

Bytel in the wings.

[The_Dud]

I can’t see us affording Treloar...Pies offered $350k in yr 1 and $275k yr 2-3, $250k yr 4-5 and no picks or players.

It’s clear that Collingwood are paying up to a third of Adam’s salary. The Doggies were the big winners from the trade period

What could have been if we’d secured Treloar...I’m seriously pissed off that we couldn’t sell Dunny, Jimmy or Lonie

If we didn’t offer such huge contracts to Hill and Dan Hannebery, perhaps we could have squeezed him in

I wonder if we’d have gone as hard for Crouch if we knew that Adam was going to be available?

It’ll be interesting to compare Brad Crouch next year with the output from Treloar.

It’ll be interesting to see if Luke Dunstan, Jack Lonie, Dylan Roberton and Jimmy Webster can get regular games

Hannas and Hill need to play significant roles for the Saints to secure another finals berth in 2021 or else

They better perform or they will have the Saintsational mob venting here on a weekly basis!!

If we hadn't offered "such huge" contracts to Hannas and Hill - they most likely would be at other clubs and we would still be struggling in the lower end of the middle rung clubs. I've grown tired of posters pissing on the shoes of the likes of Dunstan, Lonie, Roberton and Webster. It's called depth. The same strength that has allowed us to obtain the likes of Butler and Higgins from Richmond and, for that matter, release Hind for greater opportunities at Essendon. I value the depth we have now after years of wading in the shallows.

No one else wanted Hannerbry, which makes it even more puzzling why we overpaid so much for him.

Many people said it didn’t matter because it’s not like we have anyone else to pay. Fast forward to 2020 when a big fish is there waiting to be scooped up on the cheap but we can’t take advantage due to no room in the salary cap...

[lewdogs]

I can’t see us affording Treloar...Pies offered $350k in yr 1 and $275k yr 2-3, $250k yr 4-5 and no picks or players.

It’s clear that Collingwood are paying up to a third of Adam’s salary. The Doggies were the big winners from the trade period

What could have been if we’d secured Treloar...I’m seriously pissed off that we couldn’t sell Dunny, Jimmy or Lonie

If we didn’t offer such huge contracts to Hill and Dan Hannebery, perhaps we could have squeezed him in

I wonder if we’d have gone as hard for Crouch if we knew that Adam was going to be available?

It’ll be interesting to compare Brad Crouch next year with the output from Treloar.

It’ll be interesting to see if Luke Dunstan, Jack Lonie, Dylan Roberton and Jimmy Webster can get regular games

Hannas and Hill need to play significant roles for the Saints to secure another finals berth in 2021 or else

They better perform or they will have the Saintsational mob venting here on a weekly basis!!

If we hadn't offered "such huge" contracts to Hannas and Hill - they most likely would be at other clubs and we would still be struggling in the lower end of the middle rung clubs. I've grown tired of posters pissing on the shoes of the likes of Dunstan, Lonie, Roberton and Webster. It's called depth. The same strength that has allowed us to obtain the likes of Butler and Higgins from Richmond and, for that matter, release Hind for greater opportunities at Essendon. I value the depth we have now after years of wading in the shallows.

No one else wanted Hannerbry, which makes it even more puzzling why we overpaid so much for him.

Many people said it didn’t matter because it’s not like we have anyone else to pay. Fast forward to 2020 when a big fish is there waiting to be scooped up on the cheap but we can’t take advantage due to no room in the salary cap...

The reason they wouldn't have wanted to take on Treloar is it's a five year contract. It's about future deals that we'll need to sign for guys like King, Coffield and Clark who will become stars.

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Pies shop online has the 2021 calendar
You can get it elsewhere too
https://www.bigw.com.au/product/afl-col ... /p/106117/

[Ghost Like]

Pies shop online has the 2021 calendar
You can get it elsewhere too
https://www.bigw.com.au/product/afl-col ... /p/106117/

I'll give them a future 7th rounder for it, provided they purchase all of it. You never know when there'll be another toilet paper shortage.

[The_Dud]

I can’t see us affording Treloar...Pies offered $350k in yr 1 and $275k yr 2-3, $250k yr 4-5 and no picks or players.

It’s clear that Collingwood are paying up to a third of Adam’s salary. The Doggies were the big winners from the trade period

What could have been if we’d secured Treloar...I’m seriously pissed off that we couldn’t sell Dunny, Jimmy or Lonie

If we didn’t offer such huge contracts to Hill and Dan Hannebery, perhaps we could have squeezed him in

I wonder if we’d have gone as hard for Crouch if we knew that Adam was going to be available?

It’ll be interesting to compare Brad Crouch next year with the output from Treloar.

It’ll be interesting to see if Luke Dunstan, Jack Lonie, Dylan Roberton and Jimmy Webster can get regular games

Hannas and Hill need to play significant roles for the Saints to secure another finals berth in 2021 or else

They better perform or they will have the Saintsational mob venting here on a weekly basis!!

If we hadn't offered "such huge" contracts to Hannas and Hill - they most likely would be at other clubs and we would still be struggling in the lower end of the middle rung clubs. I've grown tired of posters pissing on the shoes of the likes of Dunstan, Lonie, Roberton and Webster. It's called depth. The same strength that has allowed us to obtain the likes of Butler and Higgins from Richmond and, for that matter, release Hind for greater opportunities at Essendon. I value the depth we have now after years of wading in the shallows.

No one else wanted Hannerbry, which makes it even more puzzling why we overpaid so much for him.

Many people said it didn’t matter because it’s not like we have anyone else to pay. Fast forward to 2020 when a big fish is there waiting to be scooped up on the cheap but we can’t take advantage due to no room in the salary cap...

The reason they wouldn't have wanted to take on Treloar is it's a five year contract. It's about future deals that we'll need to sign for guys like King, Coffield and Clark who will become stars.

They didn’t seem to have a problem signing an older (and injury prone) Hannerbry to a 5 year deal.

[desertsaint]

done too much good in drafting/trading in the last few years to criticise, but hanners stands out as the one big mistake. oh well, it is what it is.

[asiu]

haha at the calendar
... the collectors will swoop on that !!

[saintsRrising]

done too much good in drafting/trading in the last few years to criticise, but hanners stands out as the one big mistake. oh well, it is what it is.

If we can keep Hannas on the park in 2021 and 2022, now that we look to have assembled a good team that mistake may turn out to not be one.

[Leo.J]

We dodged a bullet with Treloar...

...got it from a very reliable source that he was a nightmare in the hub this year. the words used were "he is uncoachable".

Apart from freeing up cap space, the Pies were concerned that if Treloar was that bad in lockdown, he may not deal well with being away from his family again in 2021, whether it be another lockdown scenario or just for the fact that his wife and kid will be on the GC for most of next season.

His team mates had had enough of him.

I reckon we got wind of this and backed away. Funny thing is, we got rid of Bruce for similar reasons, now they're both together at the Dogs. Bevo will have his hands full next year.

[Saintmatt]

We dodged a bullet with Treloar...

...got it from a very reliable source that he was a nightmare in the hub this year. the words used were "he is uncoachable".

Apart from freeing up cap space, the Pies were concerned that if Treloar was that bad in lockdown, he may not deal well with being away from his family again in 2021, whether it be another lockdown scenario or just for the fact that his wife and kid will be on the GC for most of next season.

His team mates had had enough of him.

I reckon we got wind of this and backed away. Funny thing is, we got rid of Bruce for similar reasons, now they're both together at the Dogs. Bevo will have his hands full next year.

I’ve wondered a lot over the last 10 days what “Uncoachable” means in the context of Treloar. Is it that he doesn’t take direction, feedback, selfish, unselfish? Weird

[SaintPav]

done too much good in drafting/trading in the last few years to criticise, but hanners stands out as the one big mistake. oh well, it is what it is.

If we can keep Hannas on the park in 2021 and 2022, now that we look to have assembled a good team that mistake may turn out to not be one.

[Leo.J]

We dodged a bullet with Treloar...

...got it from a very reliable source that he was a nightmare in the hub this year. the words used were "he is uncoachable".

Apart from freeing up cap space, the Pies were concerned that if Treloar was that bad in lockdown, he may not deal well with being away from his family again in 2021, whether it be another lockdown scenario or just for the fact that his wife and kid will be on the GC for most of next season.

His team mates had had enough of him.

I reckon we got wind of this and backed away. Funny thing is, we got rid of Bruce for similar reasons, now they're both together at the Dogs. Bevo will have his hands full next year.

I’ve wondered a lot over the last 10 days what “Uncoachable” means in the context of Treloar. Is it that he doesn’t take direction, feedback, selfish, unselfish? Weird

All of the above except unselfish apparently...

[WellardSaint]

We dodged a bullet with Treloar...

...got it from a very reliable source that he was a nightmare in the hub this year. the words used were "he is uncoachable".

Apart from freeing up cap space, the Pies were concerned that if Treloar was that bad in lockdown, he may not deal well with being away from his family again in 2021, whether it be another lockdown scenario or just for the fact that his wife and kid will be on the GC for most of next season.

His team mates had had enough of him.

I reckon we got wind of this and backed away. Funny thing is, we got rid of Bruce for similar reasons, now they're both together at the Dogs. Bevo will have his hands full next year.

Netball season goes for 3 months. Apparently.
'Most of next season'?

[asiu]

I’ve wondered a lot over the last 10 days what “Uncoachable” means in the context of Treloar.

yea me 3

possibly its ... he wont take direction on dealing with his
anxiety / depressive issues

having been rancidly depressed
i can understand that
... if it is that

[Joffa Burns]

We dodged a bullet with Treloar...

...got it from a very reliable source that he was a nightmare in the hub this year. the words used were "he is uncoachable".

Apart from freeing up cap space, the Pies were concerned that if Treloar was that bad in lockdown, he may not deal well with being away from his family again in 2021, whether it be another lockdown scenario or just for the fact that his wife and kid will be on the GC for most of next season.

His team mates had had enough of him.

I reckon we got wind of this and backed away. Funny thing is, we got rid of Bruce for similar reasons, now they're both together at the Dogs. Bevo will have his hands full next year.

I’ve wondered a lot over the last 10 days what “Uncoachable” means in the context of Treloar. Is it that he doesn’t take direction, feedback, selfish, unselfish? Weird

So I have known a Collingwood "medical" staff member for many, many years, and though he would not comment on this specific topic (Adam hard to coach) and he would not break ranks as he is close with the head coach, he did say "Adam is a very honest, decent but sometimes very emotional young man who wears his heart on his sleeve, but is EXTREMELY popular within the playing group".

To me that statement reads the senior players did not want him gone and he is not lying when he comments to the media. Guess its what everyone suspects as well.

Plenty of players shaft their club but this has to be the worst case i can recall of a club hanging a guy out there.

Worst part for mine is to do it to a young guy who they know battles emotionally, there is really no human care factor in what has transpired. Hopefully when it comes to recruiting Collingwood are tarnished as a destination for the next decade and beyond.

A big lesson for our club when players like Hannebery & Hill are signed on big bucks and are currently not in our best 10 players. Doubt we will be dangling any big bucks until Hannebery contract is over and we outlive the legacy of the McKenzie, Robbo, Webster, Kent contracts to players who are not best 22 players.

Cash is going to be required for Clark, Coff, Paton, King and I'd expect 2 year extensions to be the normal moving forward.