Essendon offer for Hind

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Re: Essendon offer for Hind

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Philips went for pick 64. Salary dump.

Colon wood have totally stuffed their books up.


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Cameron.

Three first rounders!!!


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So Hind stays.


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:evil:
St Loxton wrote: Thu 12 Nov 2020 7:33pm So Hind stays.
Or can he enter the PSD and be taken for nothing?


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Re: Essendon offer for Hind

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Kilda wrote: Thu 12 Nov 2020 7:49pm :evil:
St Loxton wrote: Thu 12 Nov 2020 7:33pm So Hind stays.
Or can he enter the PSD and be taken for nothing?
Yep. Or the national draft. He can do whatever he wants.


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Re: Essendon offer for Hind

Post: # 1882423Post bigcarl »

SaintPav wrote: Thu 12 Nov 2020 7:31pm Cameron.

Three first rounders!!!
Talk about selling the farm


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Re: Essendon offer for Hind

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bigcarl wrote: Thu 12 Nov 2020 7:54pm
SaintPav wrote: Thu 12 Nov 2020 7:31pm Cameron.

Three first rounders!!!
Talk about selling the farm
Got bad mail.

Only 2.

My bad


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Re: Essendon offer for Hind

Post: # 1882425Post CarlD »

Hind has gone to Essendon.


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Re: Essendon offer for Hind

Post: # 1882426Post Goose is king »

[quote=SaintPav post_id=1882424 time=1605171320 user_id=19322]
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[quote=SaintPav post_id=1882416 time=1605169904 user_id=19322]
Cameron.

Three first rounders!!!
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Talk about selling the farm
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Got bad mail.

Only 2.

My bad
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I think you were right. Three


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Re: Essendon offer for Hind

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SaintPav wrote: Thu 12 Nov 2020 7:55pm
bigcarl wrote: Thu 12 Nov 2020 7:54pm
SaintPav wrote: Thu 12 Nov 2020 7:31pm Cameron.

Three first rounders!!!
Talk about selling the farm
Got bad mail.

Only 2.

My bad
Actually, original post is correct.


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Re: Essendon offer for Hind

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Goose is king wrote: Thu 12 Nov 2020 7:57pm
SaintPav wrote: Thu 12 Nov 2020 7:55pm
bigcarl wrote: Thu 12 Nov 2020 7:54pm
SaintPav wrote: Thu 12 Nov 2020 7:31pm Cameron.

Three first rounders!!!
Talk about selling the farm
Got bad mail.

Only 2.

My bad
I think you were right. Three
I should have trusted my source.


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Re: Essendon offer for Hind

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Lloyd said on TR that Hind to Essendon for a swap of late draft picks.


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CarlD wrote: Thu 12 Nov 2020 7:55pm Hind has gone to Essendon.
Yes, allegedly for pick 54.


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Re: Essendon offer for Hind

Post: # 1882435Post bigcarl »

SaintPav wrote: Thu 12 Nov 2020 7:55pm
bigcarl wrote: Thu 12 Nov 2020 7:54pm
SaintPav wrote: Thu 12 Nov 2020 7:31pm Cameron.

Three first rounders!!!
Talk about selling the farm
Got bad mail.

Only 2.

My bad
No, you were right. Three first-rounders - 13, 15 and 20 - plus a future fourth rounder. They get back two future second round picks


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Mmm... disappointed to lose him. Thought he was the best of Lonie, Kent, Marsh etc But to be honest... don’t rate any of them particularly highly.

Will be Butler and Higgins rotating with Gresh and Billing’s longercterm


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Re: Essendon offer for Hind

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Anyone have confirmation on what we got for him exactly?


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Viscount Jeremiah wrote: Thu 12 Nov 2020 8:37pm Anyone have confirmation on what we got for him exactly?
No idea and the media don’t care.

Nothing on Saints Twitter either, so they don’t care!


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skeptic wrote: Thu 12 Nov 2020 8:35pm Mmm... disappointed to lose him. Thought he was the best of Lonie, Kent, Marsh etc But to be honest... don’t rate any of them particularly highly.

Will be Butler and Higgins rotating with Gresh and Billing’s longercterm
I would've kept him to spite essendon or give him to another team.

Hind has had 1 good game and is 26.

Nice for depth but he has an opportunity to play more now. Every measurement has Lonie way ahead of him and he's gonna find it hard now too..


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Re: Essendon offer for Hind

Post: # 1882443Post ace »

IT HAPPENED

Hind + pick 77 for picks 67 +74
Hind + 0 for 69 + 0 points
Hind for 69 points = pick 67

Hind has basically been given away to assure he gets to where he wants to go.
St Kilda would most likely have been forced to delist him to meet the maximum list size.


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Re: Essendon offer for Hind

Post: # 1882449Post George27 »

So can we now try to package up 64, 67 and 74 ( none of which we will likely use) and trade for a future pick ?


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Re: Essendon offer for Hind

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Special wrote: Thu 12 Nov 2020 8:43pm
Viscount Jeremiah wrote: Thu 12 Nov 2020 8:37pm Anyone have confirmation on what we got for him exactly?
No idea and the media don’t care.

Nothing on Saints Twitter either, so they don’t care!
You still posting SaintPelican66 AKA Saintpremiers?

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Re: Essendon offer for Hind

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realdeal wrote: Thu 12 Nov 2020 8:44pm
skeptic wrote: Thu 12 Nov 2020 8:35pm Mmm... disappointed to lose him. Thought he was the best of Lonie, Kent, Marsh etc But to be honest... don’t rate any of them particularly highly.

Will be Butler and Higgins rotating with Gresh and Billing’s longercterm
I would've kept him to spite essendon or give him to another team.

Hind has had 1 good game and is 26.

Nice for depth but he has an opportunity to play more now. Every measurement has Lonie way ahead of him and he's gonna find it hard now too..
We couldn’t give Lonie away


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Re: Essendon offer for Hind

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Impatient Sainter wrote: Wed 11 Nov 2020 3:13pm DONS MAKE HIND OFFER - 2.30PM
Tom Morris reports...

Essendon has tabled a fourth round pick for St Kilda speedster Nick Hind.

Foxfooty.com.au understands the Saints are weighing up the proposal up.

The Bombers like Hind’s pace and believe they could potentially get him via the pre-season draft if needed.

Hind played VFL for Essendon in 2017 and 2018 but was overlooked before joining the Saints as a mature age recruit.

He played 10 matches in 2020 but fell out of favour late in the campaign.

I know he is not contracted but surely he is better than any kid we are going to get in the 60-70's at the draft. I rate him higher than Lonie & Kent and Lonie has a 1 year contract in front of him. This not knowing what the list sizes are going to be is ridiculous - so unprofessional by the AFPA & AFL.
He would have been delisted if the druggies didnt take him.


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Re: Essendon offer for Hind

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fugazi wrote: Wed 11 Nov 2020 4:06pm When is it depth and when is it list clogging?

McKenzie clearly a clogger

Dunstan, Webster and Roberton are good depth (although with their salary it is probably clogging)

Joyce - I simply don't know, has he got upside?
Simple answer . f*** yes.


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Re: Essendon offer for Hind

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Saintmatt wrote: Wed 11 Nov 2020 10:15pm
Joffa Burns wrote: Wed 11 Nov 2020 9:57pm
SaintPav wrote: Wed 11 Nov 2020 9:48pm
Joffa Burns wrote: Wed 11 Nov 2020 9:42pm
saintbob wrote: Wed 11 Nov 2020 9:16pm
Joffa Burns wrote: Wed 11 Nov 2020 8:30pm Hind is the most overrated player on this forum in my humble opinion.

He wasn't deemed good enough to get a game in the finals and is behind whipping boys Kent & Lonie in the pecking order.

He has some breakaway speed but he's not super quick at all and a very decent depth player, but hes certainly a fair way off best 22 IMO.
I call bulls***, have you read the s*** people continually write about how good Lonie is?
Neither are good enough to be in a premiership team IMO.

Lonie is a C grader @ best and has little upside at 24 after 76 games.

Hind is a D grader at very best and at 26 with very little upside IMO.

Lonie is clearly superior to Hind haven been chosen in the two finals ahead of Hind.

Really Kent, Hind & Lonie are all fringe AFL at best IMO.
Good analysis.

There is no shame in being a C grader in the AFL.

Lonie will be a depth player if we land Higgins.
Couldn't agree more, I'm a Jack Lonie fan and for his size and athletic limitations he's a gun.
There is some decent talent that wont fit into the best 22 next year:

My best 22 - if they stay fit and play well that team could be top 4.

Paton Howard Wilkie
Long Carslile Coffield
Hill Crouch Clark
Billings Marshall Gresham
Membrey King Butler

Ryder Steele Jones

Battle Hannebery Ross Higgins

EMG: Sinclair Dunstan Lonie Marsh Geary Kent Phillips Roberton Savage Bytel Byrnes Webster McKernan

Can't find a spot for last years captain in my starting 22

Leadership group: Steele Howard Membrey Billings Wilkie Marshall
Fair team. The only change I’d make to that is Sinclair for Ross. Modern footy is about ball retention as much as anything else - you simply cannot afford to give it back when you get it. Sincs may not get it as much as Ross; but he’ll not give it back when he gets it either.
Sorry mate but you harve to accept that the coaches have a much higher regard for Seb than you do.


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