Chips Frawley

[Saints58]

Not keen on getting in another 30s player in. We do need help down back if Jake or Dougal go down. But I do really think if Oscar is the man they would have played him when Jake missed those games, on all accounts he was playing well in the trial games. But so was Matt parker and where is he now !!
Better off with a Josh Schache 199cm 23 years old 56 games he could play in ruck or forward as well as teach him to play back he is out of contract with bulldogs.
Oscar Mcdonald 23 196 cm from Melbourne another good prospect.
I am sure there are many more in the younger age bracket who would be at the club for 7-8 years not 1 possible 2.
The only think I could think off is there is someone in the draft they have targeted and are hoping Frawley will help develop him.

[Joffa Burns]

Not keen on getting in another 30s player in. We do need help down back if Jake or Dougal go down. But I do really think if Oscar is the man they would have played him when Jake missed those games, on all accounts he was playing well in the trial games. But so was Matt parker and where is he now !!
Better off with a Josh Schache 199cm 23 years old 56 games he could play in ruck or forward as well as teach him to play back he is out of contract with bulldogs.
Oscar Mcdonald 23 196 cm from Melbourne another good prospect.
I am sure there are many more in the younger age bracket who would be at the club for 7-8 years not 1 possible 2.
The only think I could think off is there is someone in the draft they have targeted and are hoping Frawley will help develop him.

Geez saints 58, you love Josh Schache
Have you watched him play at a lower level?
What makes you think he can turn it around when he can't get a game at a club screaming for forward power?

I was pumping up Peter Wright to get picked up by us because I have been watching him train and listening to him talk about how he has to be more aggressive and how he's training to bring that into his game.

[Mr Magic]

I think there’s more to this than the obvious.
Soft cap spending has been slashed for next year
All clubs have been forced to reduce their support staff accordingly.
How do you get an extra assistant?
Put him on your playing list
Roughead and Rath would know Frawley well
Maybe he’s going to be the backline mentor like Roughy is the forward line mentor?
Maybe they see him as a long term member of the support staff and this is a way of employing him?

[bakes]

I think there’s more to this than the obvious.
Soft cap spending has been slashed for next year
All clubs have been forced to reduce their support staff accordingly.
How do you get an extra assistant?
Put him on your playing list
Roughead and Rath would know Frawley well
Maybe he’s going to be the backline mentor like Roughy is the forward line mentor?
Maybe they see him as a long term member of the support staff and this is a way of employing him?

100% agree, great post.

[saintbob]

Clearly Ratts thinks Chip has still got something to offer

[Impatient Sainter]

Saints58 mentioned Oscar McDonald whats his contract situation?

[skeptic]

Reality is that Chips would walk into this team and be the immediate #1 back up defender for a year or two.

Much like McKernan and the ruck.

Idea is growing on me

Would look a lot better if we could move on Joyce

[realdeal]

Reality is that Chips would walk into this team and be the immediate #1 back up defender for a year or two.

Much like McKernan and the ruck.

Idea is growing on me

Would look a lot better if we could move on Joyce
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Geez, forgot about Joyce... What length contract was he given?

[SaintPelican66]

I'm torn between Kevin Rudd and Malcolm Turnbull. SaintPelican66 is one of them but I just can't work out which miserable old ghost it is. If you say you are going, please get on the bus!

Now, to the topic. No, sorry James. I admired your decision to retire on 239 AFL games which left your late uncle on 240. Just leave it at that.

I have just under 24 hours left Trev before I head back to BigFooty. So please be nice. I am just a bit mystified as to the whereabouts of saynta. He is one of the reasons I am leaving this place. Only joking, he's ok.

Saynta is still on a bender celebrating your immenent departure. Hoping the bus is running on time.

I just realised that Trev from the Bush is also saynta.

[Vortex]

I think there’s more to this than the obvious.
Soft cap spending has been slashed for next year
All clubs have been forced to reduce their support staff accordingly.
How do you get an extra assistant?
Put him on your playing list
Roughead and Rath would know Frawley well
Maybe he’s going to be the backline mentor like Roughy is the forward line mentor?
Maybe they see him as a long term member of the support staff and this is a way of employing him?

Could be something in what you say. Also could go to the point and musing on Clav. Is there concern the feeder comp for the short term is not going to be the development resource it once was and having AFL ready players, even the vetran types, is the stop gap?

[minneapolis]

Strange decision to me.

Must mean that Roberton will be paid out to make cap space. Sad. I like him.

Also means that Howard was very very important. At the very least to lower Carlisle's cost.

[saintsRrising]

Clav too skinny to be a ley defender in 2021

[Saintmike65]

The reason for the interest in Frawley is that he can play on the power forwards.
He has pace and strength, unlike Carlisle, and look at how Howard struggled against Tom Lynch.
Frawley would play more games than people think!!

[Saintmike65]

Saints58 mentioned Oscar McDonald whats his contract situation?

Oscar McDonald isn't up to AFL standard, not strong enough, decision making & disposal not good.

[Beno88]

Saints58 mentioned Oscar McDonald whats his contract situation?

Oscar McDonald isn't up to AFL standard, not strong enough, decision making & disposal not good.

100%

Quite possibly the worst player to play an AFL game in 2020. I'm not keen on Frawley, but he is Dustin Martin compared Oscar McDonald.

[Saintmike65]

I think there’s more to this than the obvious.
Soft cap spending has been slashed for next year
All clubs have been forced to reduce their support staff accordingly.
How do you get an extra assistant?
Put him on your playing list
Roughead and Rath would know Frawley well
Maybe he’s going to be the backline mentor like Roughy is the forward line mentor?
Maybe they see him as a long term member of the support staff and this is a way of employing him?

100% agree, great post.

Spot on...there will be a lot more of this going forward, already happened at Melbourne with Nathan Jones doing a playing/ coaching role, before that Hodge and Birchall at Brisbane.

[Saintmike65]

Strange decision to me.

Must mean that Roberton will be paid out to make cap space. Sad. I like him.

Also means that Howard was very very important. At the very least to lower Carlisle's cost.

Roberton is more of a tall flanker/ 3rd tall type, not a key defender so likely to be still listed next year.
Well liked and respected at the club.

[happy feet]

If Ratts thinks it’s a good idea, then I’m in and so we all should be.

[Saintmatt]

Saints58 mentioned Oscar McDonald whats his contract situation?

Oscar McDonald isn't up to AFL standard, not strong enough, decision making & disposal not good.

Holy hell. If we get Oscar in then we're trying to tank already. Go ask a Melbourne supporter what they think of dear Oscar. Good spoiler but, not strong nor quick enough and Raph Clarke-like in the decision making stakes.

I'd take Chip's hairy left nut before Oscar

[terry smith rules]

Good grief I can’t believe this conversation.

Have any of you guys in favour of this watched him play this year, absolutely done..

And for those who say it doesn’t cost us anything ... it does

1 it costs us a place on a reduced list that could be used for someone who may give us more than a year ( and I include McKernan in this), so now 2 spots going to aged 1 year list fillers

2 it costs us the potential development of a younger player, look at Brisbane , they played their young Jack Payne when they had to ( I think 3 or 4 games for the year).

The club would want to make damn sure that these players come in with motivation a plenty and not just see it as a benefit, otherwise this could be crippling to our young players morale

[saintsRrising]

With Chips Carlisle will know that he has to knuckle down if he wants another year after this year.

A good Carlisle makes us a better team.

[Ghost Like]

Saints58 mentioned Oscar McDonald whats his contract situation?

I believe the Gods of Ball Butchery signed him for life.

[Ghost Like]

The idea that our "young" backline is in need of mentoring is quite amusing. I thought our backline this year looked and functioned the best of any St Kilda backline in a decade.

I suspect that because Austin was cut, Clav will be offered a one year contract or be rookie listed. I believe Clav being around the club will keep Carlisle's performance honest.

[Joffa Burns]

Good grief I can’t believe this conversation.

Have any of you guys in favour of this watched him play this year, absolutely done..

And for those who say it doesn’t cost us anything ... it does

1 it costs us a place on a reduced list that could be used for someone who may give us more than a year ( and I include McKernan in this), so now 2 spots going to aged 1 year list fillers

2 it costs us the potential development of a younger player, look at Brisbane , they played their young Jack Payne when they had to ( I think 3 or 4 games for the year).

The club would want to make damn sure that these players come in with motivation a plenty and not just see it as a benefit, otherwise this could be crippling to our young players morale

100% agree with you terry, I dislike bringing in stop gaps however I was vehemently against recruiting Paddy Ryder who was overweight and lacked mobility in his last year at Port Adelaide and was completely wrong on that one as he showed up fit and ready to fire.

Ratts gave opportunity to Long, Wilkie, Paton & Coffield and backed them in where under the past regime I'm sure Savage, Webster, Geary, Mckenzie & Roberston may have been preferred.

I think if Clav was up to it he'd have got a game when Carslile was dropped.

I'm hoping Clav makes it this year even if signed on as a rookie as I really like his marking ability.

Instead of McKernan I wanted Wright and really hope we don't take Frawley.

[SaintPav]

Frawley would be for insurance only you would think.

Not the worst idea in the world.