Do not trade Lonie & billings

[Josh Battle]

Is this trade discussion approved by the trade discussion gatekeepers?

Where is the article and source?

This trade discussion certainly passes muster IMO.

1. It names players & clubs
2. It suggests what value on each player
3. It even pontificates over what gets the deal(s) done
4. There is no source required as it is merely speculation
5. No-one is pretending to be an ITK

Now if only they started a new thread, written words that mean nothing and provide as much specific information as the daily horoscope they'd be right up there with your ITK posts parkey/ted/flamingo/james.

Still mostly fantasy wanking though, if you are really being honest.

This ‘fantasy wanking’ you speak of...how is it played? What stats or strokes score the most points?

[saynta]

Is this trade discussion approved by the trade discussion gatekeepers?

Where is the article and source?

This trade discussion certainly passes muster IMO.

1. It names players & clubs
2. It suggests what value on each player
3. It even pontificates over what gets the deal(s) done
4. There is no source required as it is merely speculation
5. No-one is pretending to be an ITK

Now if only they started a new thread, written words that mean nothing and provide as much specific information as the daily horoscope they'd be right up there with your ITK posts parkey/ted/flamingo/james.

Still mostly fantasy wanking though, if you are really being honest.

This ‘fantasy wanking’ you speak of...how is it played? What stats or strokes score the most points?

[Saintmike65]

I really, really like Jack as a player but, much like if Webster and Dunstan would be part of sweetening the Crouch deal then - you have to give to get. It depends on what we'd get for Jack as to whether I'd be happy to let him go. Early 2nd rounder? Nope? Late 1st rounder? Probably not. Somewhere around about 10-ish? Yes - so long as we're going to use that pick to upgrade on Jack to either a better version of himself or to get a player in a position we're deficient in.

Billings and our 2020 1st rounder for Tarranto? Yes - I think so.

As for Lonie - with Crouch coming in - I see that meaning Gresham playing more as a forward/mid and, he'll then push-out either one of Kent or Lonie. And that's a good thing.

Here's something I've been thinking about today though ... if Lonie was to depart - how good would it be to replace him with Jack Higgins from Richmond? Freaking hell - that bloke can't get a look-in and he's a jet of a small forward. Contracted til the end of 2021 but sheesh - be worth asking the question ...

Great to see you got your wish...agree Higgins would be great for us, offers so much more than Lonie, plus can play in the midfield...Happy days!!

[Saintmike65]

With the likelihood of Higgins getting to us, Lonie would be foolish not to leave for greater opportunity.
Keep hearing the doggies are keen, so he would reunite with his mate Josh Bruce.
I wouldn't trade Billings, forget the idea of turning him into a midfielder, play him as a high half forward where he can influence the game more with his kicking inside 50, an area we're not great in.

[minneapolis]

"Pore disposal" is beautifully descriptive. Credit to the OP - it's a keeper!

I would call that excessive sweating.

[CQ SAINT]

Billings has a 33.3 batting average and strike rate of 54.5 and occasionally takes a few wickets against the weaker cricketing nations.
Lonie is a fair fielder.and a solid night watchman but can't really bat or bowl.

[ace]

The changing of the guard, the following still on list but on the table.
Dunstan taken in 2013 draft
Lonie 2014 taken draft
McKenzie taken in 2014 draft
Roberton taken as delisted free agent end of 2012
Ross taken in 2011 draft
Webster 2011 draft

All have one thing in common.
They were part of the bottom 6 team that WAS St Kilda.
None suitable to be captain.
Being replaced by a top 6 team that IS St Kilda.

Geary taken as rookie in 2006, captain but likely to be replaced.
Candidates should have a long history at club.
Billings taken in 2013 draft.
Well no, more likely to be overlooked in favour of newbie Jack Steele brought in end of 2016.
Why is that Mr Billings ?
Why don't I see you as captain material ?
If you want to be captain you have to lead from the front.
You have to earn captaincy.
It is not good enough to simply maintain your place in team.

[samuraisaint]

Yes i do goes missing far to often in games get value for him now while we can.

Would offer Billings up in a trade in a heartbeat if we can land Taranto.

I think you'll find Billings will perform a lot better in a well performing side. He won't be getting tagged every week and he'll be able to play his own game without getting a heap of extra attention every week.

[saynta]

My reason for keeping Lonie is he is a goal kicker and they are hard to come by especially when you play as a small forward I know we have butler but he generally plays a bit different role.

Lonie does not have that much pace but we have enough players that do, he gives forward pressure and he scored a goal almost every game.

He doesn't often get beaten.

Trade Sinclair he is quick but does not kick goals and at times has very pore disposal is good when going forward but not forward pressure. The other player is Hind I like him but he is worth some currency might get some picks for him.

Agree it would be nice to hang onto Lones and Billings but their type are around in abundance so if the club continues to be bold and aggressive then they have currency and we could lose them.

Hind has zero currency.

Lonie no takers.

Billings ..never on offer.

Hind was always "druggies" bound at some stage.