Changes for the Elimination Final

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Re: Changes for the Elimination Final

Post: # 1871213Post shanegrambeau »

Based on our selectors this season, Kent is ranked above many others, including, Lonie, Sinclair, Carlisle, Hind, Dunstan and even Battle. I put him far below any in that bunch, but if they stick to their guns, what ever philosophy that is, they’ll pick him again.

I feel for any player that gets picked every home and away (he may have slipped out with injury once?) and then gets dropped for the finals, but still think Jones is better value..even as a C grader. However, it wouldn’t surprise me if they keep Kent.

Sincs, even as a low possession getter, is so much better and has skills and fast decision making to boot.


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Re: Changes for the Elimination Final

Post: # 1871218Post older saint »

If Jones is fit then the unlucky one is Kent.

Lonie hit the score board and pressure seemed better than Kent.

Sinclair been more consistent than Kent this year and we need run and carry - especially if the Dogs.

If Dogs will Gears go to Johanason again as he needs to be sat on and i don't think Kent can do that . Clark moves to half back , Jones to the middle and Gear to half forward tag- makes sense Kent out then - unlucky


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Re: Changes for the Elimination Final

Post: # 1871221Post saynta »

Jake might be the one to miss out. Will depend on whether we are playing the dullbogs or the filth. imhfo, that is.


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Re: Changes for the Elimination Final

Post: # 1871222Post Joffa Burns »

I'm hoping it's Kent for Jones but my guess is Lonie given the knee injury and selection history this season.

I prefer Lonie as he can crumb and provides a lot more pressure, Kent for mine will go missing in the heat of the final.

Can't see Sinclair going out as he is more versatile than Lonie or Kent and could go forward, wing or into the middle for a stretch.


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Re: Changes for the Elimination Final

Post: # 1871224Post bangaulegend »

saynta wrote: Mon 21 Sep 2020 11:15am Jake might be the one to miss out. Will depend on whether we are playing the dullbogs or the filth. imhfo, that is.
Good call Jake not in great form & yeah horses for courses


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Re: Changes for the Elimination Final

Post: # 1871245Post Cordz2 »

skeptic wrote: Sat 19 Sep 2020 1:24am Kent easily the first out if someone is dropped.

No goals
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Slows play down
Only gets the ball when it’s gift wrapped for him

Him and Lonie are chalk and cheese...
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Re: Changes for the Elimination Final

Post: # 1871252Post The_Dud »

I would be very disappointed if they drop Jake, especially to keep someone like Kent in. He was horrible against GWS.

Surely it's Jones for Kent, don't f*ck this up Ratts!


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Re: Changes for the Elimination Final

Post: # 1871253Post Cordz2 »

fugazi wrote: Sat 19 Sep 2020 8:16pm Geary to Johannissen again
I think they'll be waiting for that - id prefer Patton there and Geary on Caleb Daniel.


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Cordz2 wrote: Mon 21 Sep 2020 1:24pm
fugazi wrote: Sat 19 Sep 2020 8:16pm Geary to Johannissen again
I think they'll be waiting for that - id prefer Patton there and Geary on Caleb Daniel.
I'm not sure two defensive minded players in our backline works for us. Geary for JJ, expose Daniel with a marking player and make him a Top 3 target.

Sinclair is safe. If Jones is good to go, he must play. Kent in trouble unless Lonie does not pull up well.


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Re: Changes for the Elimination Final

Post: # 1871275Post SaintPelican66 »

Cordz2 wrote: Mon 21 Sep 2020 1:24pm
fugazi wrote: Sat 19 Sep 2020 8:16pm Geary to Johannissen again
I think they'll be waiting for that - id prefer Patton there and Geary on Caleb Daniel.
I think if Geary plays on Caleb Daniel he will be torn a new one.


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Re: Changes for the Elimination Final

Post: # 1871312Post stkfc1 »

Geary to JJ. Paton on Daniels. Kent out for Jones only if Jones is 100%. I'd want them to give his hamstrings a flogging to make sure they'll hold up. Last thing we need is Jones going down in the first quarter.
You know it makes sense.


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Re: Changes for the Elimination Final

Post: # 1871318Post Saintmatt »

PADDLEPOP1001 wrote: Sat 19 Sep 2020 12:19am Battle had a job to shut down Haynes & did that superbly!
Spot on. Battle achieved what most of Haynes' opponents over his career have not been able to ... he made him actually defend and not just 3rd man up intercept mark.

God how I wish Ross Lyin had've made Nick Maxwell actually defend a forward in 2020 v1


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Re: Changes for the Elimination Final

Post: # 1871320Post Saintmatt »

saynta wrote: Mon 21 Sep 2020 11:15am Jake might be the one to miss out. Will depend on whether we are playing the dullbogs or the filth. imhfo, that is.
I reckon it will be Jake to miss if Aaron Naughton doesn't come up.


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Re: Changes for the Elimination Final

Post: # 1871322Post Saintmatt »

The 'don't shoot Bambi conundrum' is actually Ross for Jones.

I know Ross has been doing some excellent jobs over the past month but, he had a pretty awful 1st and start of the 2nd of Coniglio. I get the Kent for Jones thing but, they're different types of players.

I actually really rate Kent's running and pressure and he fills a role in the team that other's don't. Jones and Ross on the other hand are same-ish position-wise.


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Re: Changes for the Elimination Final

Post: # 1871323Post saynta »

Ross won't get dropped.


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Re: Changes for the Elimination Final

Post: # 1871325Post Vortex »

I think Carlisle's spot is on shaky ground. Dogs and Pies forward lines could be quelled without Jake's help this week and so bring in some energy. I know its not like for like but the slippery conditions could dictate Zak comes in for Jake.

Kent ain't going anywhere, Ratts loves him and the role he plays.

If Zac isn't ready then the team will either be unchanged or if they really feel Carlisle is a liability they might roll the dice on Dunny if he is good to go.


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Re: Changes for the Elimination Final

Post: # 1871327Post Saintmatt »

saynta wrote: Mon 21 Sep 2020 4:53pm Ross won't get dropped.
I know that. But that's the like for like position-wise.

Having said that - he'd want to do a much better job on McCrae, Hunter or Bont than he started with on Cogs (I know your love for Ross runs deep but, that's just a simple fact). If he quells one of those 3 like he does done recently - I'll be cheering his name from the rooftops


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Re: Changes for the Elimination Final

Post: # 1871328Post bigcarl »

Is it settled that we play Bulldogs or can it still be Collingwood?


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Re: Changes for the Elimination Final

Post: # 1871329Post The_Dud »

bigcarl wrote: Mon 21 Sep 2020 5:09pm Is it settled that we play Bulldogs or can it still be Collingwood?
If Collingwood win tonight we'll play them.


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Re: Changes for the Elimination Final

Post: # 1871330Post Groovy Guru »

older saint wrote: Mon 21 Sep 2020 11:12am If Jones is fit then the unlucky one is Kent.
That would be one unlucky Kent.


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Re: Changes for the Elimination Final

Post: # 1871331Post Mr Magic »

The_Dud wrote: Mon 21 Sep 2020 5:14pm
bigcarl wrote: Mon 21 Sep 2020 5:09pm Is it settled that we play Bulldogs or can it still be Collingwood?
If Collingwood win tonight we'll play them.
If Collingwood win then we play them as the 'away' team
If Collingwood lose then we play WB as the 'home' team


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Re: Changes for the Elimination Final

Post: # 1871346Post bigcarl »

Mr Magic wrote: Mon 21 Sep 2020 5:24pm
The_Dud wrote: Mon 21 Sep 2020 5:14pm
bigcarl wrote: Mon 21 Sep 2020 5:09pm Is it settled that we play Bulldogs or can it still be Collingwood?
If Collingwood win tonight we'll play them.
If Collingwood win then we play them as the 'away' team
If Collingwood lose then we play WB as the 'home' team
So it’s in Collingwood’s interest to win, since we have largely been their bitch since the 2010 replay.


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Re: Changes for the Elimination Final

Post: # 1871347Post Vortex »

Looks like we will be playing in Adelaide either way.


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Re: Changes for the Elimination Final

Post: # 1871381Post terry smith rules »

Mr Magic wrote: Mon 21 Sep 2020 5:24pm
The_Dud wrote: Mon 21 Sep 2020 5:14pm
bigcarl wrote: Mon 21 Sep 2020 5:09pm Is it settled that we play Bulldogs or can it still be Collingwood?
If Collingwood win tonight we'll play them.
If Collingwood win then we play them as the 'away' team
If Collingwood lose then we play WB as the 'home' team
We can't play Collingwood because we'll be playing in the white, would love to see the traditional strip v dogs


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Re: Changes for the Elimination Final

Post: # 1871386Post Joffa Burns »

saynta wrote: Mon 21 Sep 2020 4:53pm Ross won't get dropped.
Why would it even be suggested?
Like you I do not get the Ross hate here.
Ross is a decent B grade mid and a walk up start in the team.


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