2020 Trade Period

[Iansaint]

Zac Williams F/A, Jye Caldwell + GWS 2nd rd for our 1st rd 2020 , on trade that 2nd rounder to tigers for Ryley Collier-Dawkins......next year target Luke Davies-Uniacke

[saintsRrising]

Who we giving up folks????
Can’t see us landing without offering ..

And yes there's the rub, though the advantage of Williams is that he is an RFA and so if GWS are tight for $ he comes as a free hit pickwise.

Caldwell would cost us our first pick.

Player wise I am not sure we have a lot that GWS need that we can afford to lose.

Not having a VFL this year hurts all clubs including S tKilda re fringe players to demonstrate value, and so reduces trade value.


One thing we do know is that we have a key lack and fixing that lack while not easy needs to be done if we are to progress. That is unless say Bytel and Byrnes step up in a dramatic manner, or maybe we somehow teach Jones how to use the ball better.

[SunnyErnest]

Who we giving up folks????
Can’t see us landing without offering ..

We don't need to give up anyone. Grab Zak Williams and Crouch as FA's. Trade out Dunstan and another couple of players for picks and salary cap relief. Bundle picks together and move up the draft order. Take all picks to the Draft.

Premiers in 2021

[Teflon]

Who we giving up folks????
Can’t see us landing without offering ..

We don't need to give up anyone. Grab Zak Williams and Crouch as FA's. Trade out Dunstan and another couple of players for picks and salary cap relief. Bundle picks together and move up the draft order. Take all picks to the Draft.

Premiers in 2021

Crouch??

[SunnyErnest]

Who we giving up folks????
Can’t see us landing without offering ..

We don't need to give up anyone. Grab Zak Williams and Crouch as FA's. Trade out Dunstan and another couple of players for picks and salary cap relief. Bundle picks together and move up the draft order. Take all picks to the Draft.

Premiers in 2021

Crouch??

Yes Crouch. We need more midfield depth.

[Ghost Like]

Who we giving up folks????
Can’t see us landing without offering ..

We don't need to give up anyone. Grab Zak Williams and Crouch as FA's. Trade out Dunstan and another couple of players for picks and salary cap relief. Bundle picks together and move up the draft order. Take all picks to the Draft.

Premiers in 2021

Crouch??

Yes Crouch. We need more midfield depth.

We do, but not Crouch. Keep Dunstan and whatever we'd have to give up for Crouch.

[Teflon]

Who we giving up folks????
Can’t see us landing without offering ..

We don't need to give up anyone. Grab Zak Williams and Crouch as FA's. Trade out Dunstan and another couple of players for picks and salary cap relief. Bundle picks together and move up the draft order. Take all picks to the Draft.

Premiers in 2021

Crouch??

Yes Crouch. We need more midfield depth.

Hannerbury need a rehab partner?
No thanks been down that road
We aren’t in top up stage we are still building need players who have upside and can get on the park

[PADDLEPOP1001]

On AFL Insider Colier-Dawkins & Coleman-Jones for Ross & a 2nd Rounder ,I reckon we need something added but the crazy times have started
Ladies & gents!Go Saints!

[Devilhead]

On AFL Insider Colier-Dawkins & Coleman-Jones for Ross & a 2nd Rounder ,I reckon we need something added but the crazy times have started
Ladies & gents!Go Saints!

AFL Insider is well known not to be not so inside

Any info he/she spouts should be taken with a big fat lump of salt

[PADDLEPOP1001]

Fair enough sunshine!As I said in my post crazy times,however I will continue to put possible trades up because I believe that’s what this thread is about!

[remboy]

On AFL Insider Colier-Dawkins & Coleman-Jones for Ross & a 2nd Rounder ,I reckon we need something added but the crazy times have started
Ladies & gents!Go Saints!

AFL Insider is well known not to be not so inside

Any info he/she spouts should be taken with a big fat lump of salt

From what I can tell so far all his info comes from footy forums.

[outside66]

Who we giving up folks????
Can’t see us landing without offering ..

Seb Ross, Carlisle, Lonie would be at the top of the list. All could be valuable to the right suitor

[Devilhead]

Fair enough sunshine!As I said in my post crazy times,however I will continue to put possible trades up because I believe that’s what this thread is about!

No probs knuckles!

[True Blue Sainter]

Mids need to be our first, second and third priority.

We need quality and depth in midfield to compete with the best sides in this league.

[SaintDippa]

Don't understand the fascination with Zac Williams. Would cost big dollars, is always injured and never see him tackle. Crouch similar but does do inside grunt work then turn it over. Would pass on both.

[bigred]

Mids.

Caldwell isnt a bad bet because he was taken at about pick ten or eleven anyway. Our pick will be around that mark regardless. And only if there are no clues regarding this years draft anyway.

Williams would cost paaahlenty.
Crouch wanted a million a year last time. He makes Hannas look like value.

[PADDLEPOP1001]

Fair enough sunshine!As I said in my post crazy times,however I will continue to put possible trades up because I believe that’s what this thread is about!

No probs knuckles!

Don’t ever forget it!

[johnearljames]

Jack Viney getting thrown around a bit.

[Teflon]

Viney would be good but can’t see him leaving dees
I heard he was p!ssed at losing VC but still can’t see it

[johnearljames]

Viney would be good but can’t see him leaving dees
I heard he was p!ssed at losing VC but still can’t see it

Yeah, nah, maybe. Hmm.....

[Yallingupsaints]

No chance Richmond would go for that. He he’d be number 35 on their list

[bigred]

Viney is gettable.

[Vazelos]

Our ability to land a quality inside mid, whether young or older (but hopefully not ancient) is going to be pivotal to our fortunes over the next several seasons. We actually need 2 more gun mids if we wish to be a genuine contender.

We have many good to excellent young players and virtually every position is covered, but in the midfield we just lack so badly on the quantity of quality inside mids required. When you look at many teams we just do not have the quality in our emerging mids that we need to have.

Steele has been a huge tick for us this year.

Gresham has shown good promise, but at 23 while his best is yet to come he is not at the standard of some of the young mids of his age. Now I am not knocking Gresh, but as our current No 2 mid it is a worry.

Jones. If he had good disposal and particularly kicking he could be what we seek. But rare is the player who becomes a good kick at 26. His pace and aggression certainly helps to mix up our midfield ...

So after this we currently step down dramatically. Ross, Dunstan may all well be ok as fringe mids. But are not top 3/4 mids.

Hannas? Quality IF on the park. But is more outside than inside, and his injury record since joining us leaves little confidence that he will be a regular in 2021.

Bytel. Showed promise, but too early to no. Even moreso with Byrnes.

Hill. Purely an outside mid.

Billings. Good player, but not an out and out gun. I doubt that he could become an inside mid gun.

Clark and Coffield. Both have shown that they will be very good players for us. But whether they can be very good mids is completely unknown.

Sincs. I quite like him, but I think his games have shown that he is a good linking player destined to be a support player only. As our 21/22nd player he provides a god asset.

Marshall. While not a small midfielder we know that can win midfield ball including clearances. But he needs to complement some good inside mids, rather than be expected to be a midfield himself. Marshall is a huge asset for us.


UPSIDE

Marshall, Howard, Battle while already all good will be flying in 2 more seasons.

Max is very raw bodywise and he will be starting to hit his straps then.

When the ball bounces for 2023 Steele needs to have two gun inside mids to complement them or we will be wasting a very good set of talls. Hence why targeting some like Jaye now would be a good idea as to actually gain an inside mid in his prime is a very hard task. Recent history would indicate that they mainly have to choose you.

If would be amazing to land 2 gun ready to go mids for 2021. But it is most improbable. Landing one or two players that can become good mids is a much easier path.

PS Finishing the year on a good note will make it much easier to land the players we need. Such players we no doubt have already been in discussion with.

Brilliant analysis I have analysed the situation very similar and I believe our brains trust would be thinking along the same lines.
Get Jy Caldwell he is Saints boy at heart and we won’t be able to get him in 2/3 years look what we had to pay for Hill and he is a winger albeit an elite one.
Trade hard get rid of players that have to go and bring in young quality we are heading towards the window soon.

[SaintPelican66]

If we can jag either Williams or Crouch as a FA I will be very happy. Then I would package up Carlisle and Dunstan and trade them to Hawthorn for their second round draft pick and on-trade to GWS for Jye Caldwell

[Joffa Burns]

If we can jag either Williams or Crouch as a FA I will be very happy. Then I would package up Carlisle and Dunstan and trade them to Hawthorn for their second round draft pick and on-trade to GWS for Jye Caldwell

IMO I doubt Hawthorn would give up a second rounder for those two players and GWS would want a first rounder probably top 10 for Caldwell.