Trade Billings

[happy feet]

Simply not up to it. trade him at the end of the season, we might get someone who can play.

[longtimesaint]

He looks tired and hasn’t had snreak

[johnearljames]

No. Still in our best 5 players.

[portosaint]

Here comes another one... Just like the other one

[happy feet]

No. Still in our best 5 players.

You must be joking, surely. He is a soft ineffective footballer.

[johnearljames]

No. Still in our best 5 players.

You must be joking, surely. He is a soft ineffective footballer.

One bad loss and performance and we trade a good player in his prime with good skills. Real smart.

[happy feet]

No. Still in our best 5 players.

You must be joking, surely. He is a soft ineffective footballer.

One bad loss and performance and we trade a good player in his prime with good skills. Real smart.

Story, he is soft and we are carrying him. A player of his supposed caliber should be winning us games. He is not doing this, over rated and over paid.

[Ghost Like]

Simply not up to it. trade him at the end of the season, we might get someone who can play.

Not sure I'd like you next to me in the trenches but go for it champ.

[fugazi]

Should have been given the week off 3 weeks ago.

Massive miscalculation made at selection vs Geelong.

Should have rested 5-7 players including JB

We've been rolling the dice ever since.

Stop the trade nonsense....he is a genuine playmaker.

And yes he was terrible tonight

[Moods]

No. Still in our best 5 players.

You must be joking, surely. He is a soft ineffective footballer.

One bad loss and performance and we trade a good player in his prime with good skills. Real smart.

Didn't you say that last week?

[johnearljames]

No. Still in our best 5 players.

You must be joking, surely. He is a soft ineffective footballer.

One bad loss and performance and we trade a good player in his prime with good skills. Real smart.

Story, he is soft and we are carrying him. A player of his supposed caliber should be winning us games. He is not doing this, over rated and over paid.

No he is not soft and he will not be traded. Still in our best 5 players.

[Goose is king]

He certainly does need to step up.

[happy feet]

No. Still in our best 5 players.

You must be joking, surely. He is a soft ineffective footballer.

One bad loss and performance and we trade a good player in his prime with good skills. Real smart.

Story, he is soft and we are carrying him. A player of his supposed caliber should be winning us games. He is not doing this, over rated and over paid.

No he is not soft and he will not be traded. Still in our best 5 players.

Why do you think he is in our top 5? Please enlighten us al.

[johnearljames]

No. Still in our best 5 players.

You must be joking, surely. He is a soft ineffective footballer.

One bad loss and performance and we trade a good player in his prime with good skills. Real smart.

Story, he is soft and we are carrying him. A player of his supposed caliber should be winning us games. He is not doing this, over rated and over paid.

No he is not soft and he will not be traded. Still in our best 5 players.

Why do you think he is in our top 5? Please enlighten us al.

For one, he is in the top 5 at the Saints for numerous stats.

1. 2nd most disposals
2. 3rd average disposals
3. 5th contested posessions
4. 1st metres gained
5. 4th most tackles
6. 3rd score involvements

Shall I go on?

[bangaulegend]

Looked tired & jaded obviously showed in his performance tonight. Not desisting him just yet but gee he was disappointing tonight ,when you want some one to stand up & fly the flag he didn't

[Saintmatt]

[*]

Should have been given the week off 3 weeks ago.

Massive miscalculation made at selection vs Geelong.

Should have rested 5-7 players including JB

We've been rolling the dice ever since.

Stop the trade nonsense....he is a genuine playmaker.

And yes he was terrible tonight

Couldn’t agree more. We stuffed the Geelong game royally.

And Jack was absolutely a abysmal tonight. Played 1 good a in the last 8. Disappointing.

[happy feet]

No. Still in our best 5 players.

You must be joking, surely. He is a soft ineffective footballer.

One bad loss and performance and we trade a good player in his prime with good skills. Real smart.

Story, he is soft and we are carrying him. A player of his supposed caliber should be winning us games. He is not doing this, over rated and over paid.

No he is not soft and he will not be traded. Still in our best 5 players.

Why do you think he is in our top 5? Please enlighten us al.

For one, he is in the top 5 at the Saints for numerous stats.

1. 2nd most disposals
2. 3rd average disposals
3. 5th contested posessions
4. 1st metres gained
5. 4th most tackles
6. 3rd score involvements

Shall I go on?

Yep and all of it ineffectual. When has he stepped up and won us a game. I can’t remember it.

[johnearljames]

No. Still in our best 5 players.

You must be joking, surely. He is a soft ineffective footballer.

One bad loss and performance and we trade a good player in his prime with good skills. Real smart.

Story, he is soft and we are carrying him. A player of his supposed caliber should be winning us games. He is not doing this, over rated and over paid.

No he is not soft and he will not be traded. Still in our best 5 players.

Why do you think he is in our top 5? Please enlighten us al.

For one, he is in the top 5 at the Saints for numerous stats.

1. 2nd most disposals
2. 3rd average disposals
3. 5th contested posessions
4. 1st metres gained
5. 4th most tackles
6. 3rd score involvements

Shall I go on?

Yep and all of it ineffectual. When has he stepped up and won us a game. I can’t remember it.

Yeah ok. His efforts have done nothing to have us in 6th place.

Its a team game full of 22 players. Not 5 on 5 basketball.

[happy feet]

Yep he was supposed to be a superstar, he is not earning his pay.

[Ghost Like]

No. Still in our best 5 players.

You must be joking, surely. He is a soft ineffective footballer.

One bad loss and performance and we trade a good player in his prime with good skills. Real smart.

Story, he is soft and we are carrying him. A player of his supposed caliber should be winning us games. He is not doing this, over rated and over paid.

No he is not soft and he will not be traded. Still in our best 5 players.

Why do you think he is in our top 5? Please enlighten us al.

For one, he is in the top 5 at the Saints for numerous stats.

1. 2nd most disposals
2. 3rd average disposals
3. 5th contested posessions
4. 1st metres gained
5. 4th most tackles
6. 3rd score involvements

Shall I go on?

Yep and all of it ineffectual. When has he stepped up and won us a game. I can’t remember it.

I'll play. Please tell us those who have better "ineffectual" stats or better stats however you define them?

This should be enlightening.

[happy feet]

No. Still in our best 5 players.

You must be joking, surely. He is a soft ineffective footballer.

One bad loss and performance and we trade a good player in his prime with good skills. Real smart.

Story, he is soft and we are carrying him. A player of his supposed caliber should be winning us games. He is not doing this, over rated and over paid.

No he is not soft and he will not be traded. Still in our best 5 players.

Why do you think he is in our top 5? Please enlighten us al.

For one, he is in the top 5 at the Saints for numerous stats.

1. 2nd most disposals
2. 3rd average disposals
3. 5th contested posessions
4. 1st metres gained
5. 4th most tackles
6. 3rd score involvements

Shall I go on?

Yep and all of it ineffectual. When has he stepped up and won us a game. I can’t remember it.

I'll play. Please tell us those who have better "ineffectual" stats or better stats however you define them?

This should be enlightening.

Great to have you on board. When can you remember Billings ever standing out and winning us a game. Please tell me that moment when, yeah Billings won us that one. Like we did with Harvey, Hayes, Burke, Jones, Winmar. They are who we should be expecting Billings to perform like. He is over rated and over paid.

[Scollop]

Should have been given the week off 3 weeks ago.

Massive miscalculation made at selection vs Geelong.

Should have rested 5-7 players including JB

We've been rolling the dice ever since.

Stop the trade nonsense....he is a genuine playmaker.

And yes he was terrible tonight

I agree that players needed to be better managed. We rolled the dice and it worked against Port Adelaide but it has cost us against Brisbane and Melbourne. Possibly a mistake by selection committee and coaches, but perhaps they wanted to learn some things about the list and about certain players

I have a feeling that all of the decisions that Ratts and the footy department have made this year have been with an eye on the long term. It seems like they are testing which players are capable and the more pressure that you place on certain players, the better it is for the coach and the list manager to decide who stays and who needs to go.

All the lessons learned this year will put us in a better position for the next couple of years. If we are going to play finals we need players that can stand up and push through on a consistent basis during a finals series

Billings has been a good player for us, but he is replaceable. He hasn’t been consistent enough and I wouldn’t want to be relying on him if we are playing a brutal 3 or 4 weeks of finals

[Ghost Like]

No. Still in our best 5 players.

You must be joking, surely. He is a soft ineffective footballer.

One bad loss and performance and we trade a good player in his prime with good skills. Real smart.

Story, he is soft and we are carrying him. A player of his supposed caliber should be winning us games. He is not doing this, over rated and over paid.

No he is not soft and he will not be traded. Still in our best 5 players.

Why do you think he is in our top 5? Please enlighten us al.

For one, he is in the top 5 at the Saints for numerous stats.

1. 2nd most disposals
2. 3rd average disposals
3. 5th contested posessions
4. 1st metres gained
5. 4th most tackles
6. 3rd score involvements

Shall I go on?

Yep and all of it ineffectual. When has he stepped up and won us a game. I can’t remember it.

I'll play. Please tell us those who have better "ineffectual" stats or better stats however you define them?

This should be enlightening.

Great to have you on board. When can you remember Billings ever standing out and winning us a game. Please tell me that moment when, yeah Billings won us that one. Like we did with Harvey, Hayes, Burke, Jones, Winmar. They are who we should be expecting Billings to perform like. He is over rated and over paid.

Great questions. Answer mine first and then I'll answer yours.

[Teflon]

No. Still in our best 5 players.

You must be joking, surely. He is a soft ineffective footballer.

One bad loss and performance and we trade a good player in his prime with good skills. Real smart.

Story, he is soft and we are carrying him. A player of his supposed caliber should be winning us games. He is not doing this, over rated and over paid.

No he is not soft and he will not be traded. Still in our best 5 players.

Why do you think he is in our top 5? Please enlighten us al.

For one, he is in the top 5 at the Saints for numerous stats.

1. 2nd most disposals
2. 3rd average disposals
3. 5th contested posessions
4. 1st metres gained
5. 4th most tackles
6. 3rd score involvements

Shall I go on?

Yep and all of it ineffectual. When has he stepped up and won us a game. I can’t remember it.

I'll play. Please tell us those who have better "ineffectual" stats or better stats however you define them?

This should be enlightening.

I do like Steel’s stats ....effective too
That said Jack is certainly tradeable for the right price and that would be a very good midfielder
Sorry 7 years seen enough he is in his prime and doesn’t do it often enough or when you need him too
He’s a bit downhill skier for mine Jack
I think we can cover a wing/HFF from Clarke or Coffiekd possibly over time
Sinclair was better than Billings tonight Hill too

[Ghost Like]

P.S..: Without looking at stats, brownlow votes, coaches votes...let's start with the Bulldogs, a relatively successful team in Jack's time with us.

Looking forward to those "ineffectual" stats.